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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:09 PM
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A word just got changed recently.
There use to be a word, 'no one' it was one word. like noone seriously I can remember vaguely that it was one word, not two words, and was a word often used without any issues as a single word.

But now it is not possible to make it a single word. It was changed somewhere recently.

That is how puzzles in words can tell you if they are changed. the puzzle part is stored in a different part then the actual word label, and far more difficult to change that when attached to many concepts.

Not that it matters, just thought someone might be interested.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:24 PM
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1. I don't believe "noone" was ever correct.
They are two separate words. It's a relatively common misspelling, but I don't think it's ever been recognized as one word.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:35 PM
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3. I can see how people might assume it's correct.
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 12:40 PM by Heidi
"Nobody" could seem a logical leap to "noone," and the same as "anyone" might seem a logical leap to "noone." But I can't recall ever having been taught that "noone" is the correct spelling. I'm with you on this EOTE, but would be interested in any citation of an authoritative source by the OP. :hi:
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 12:03 PM
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11. I think we might be waiting a while :)
I think it's just one of those things that people just assume. But I'm one of those people who cringes whenever I hear phrasing like "an historic" from people who just assume it sounds better and should therefore be accurate.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 01:35 PM
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13. Oh, I know, EOTE.
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 01:36 PM by Heidi
I've been a journalist since 1980, but I try not to be a grammar/spelling Nazi. Noone appreciates that. :evilgrin:
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 01:55 PM
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14. Speaking of Nazis...
I always get a huge laugh when I see the term "grammar Nazi's" thrown about on a message board. Granted, nearly everyone makes grammatical mistakes, but if you're going to insult someone for being overly pedantic, one should probably have a solid grasp of the proper usage of the apostrophe first. I know I'm a repeat offender (both in terms of making my own mistakes and lambasting others for their's), but I find it fascinating to see how the internet can so quickly assist in the bastardization of the English language. I have a cousin who's in high school and when I visit her Facebook page, it's like I'm reading a foreign language. There must be something about the internet that makes it completely incompatible with proper grammar.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 02:01 PM
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15. Next time, show your cousin this
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 02:04 PM by krispos42


:hi:


ETA:

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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 02:59 PM
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17. Great stuff.
That strip is hilarious. But if it were just the occasional 'pwned' or 'ghey', I'd really have no problem reading my cousin's page. As it is, it's almost like she's TRYING to be incomprehensible. Perhaps we need to get working on an Enigma Machine that will decode Facebook posts of modern teenagers.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 02:04 PM
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16. I don't disagree.
Let's not even go down the Facebook road. :rofl:
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:07 PM
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5. I agree. The closest might be "none", which didn't retain the original meaning.
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 01:07 PM by Hosnon
... if that is its origin (could also be "not one").
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:32 PM
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2. Do you have a source, other than your memory, citing "noone" as ever being proper spelling?
I'm 48 and in my lifetime -- outside of your OP -- I've not seen that spelling advanced as having ever been correct "recently." I'm interested. Thank you! :hi:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:44 PM
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4. I've always agreed with you about beer and travel money, but now you're over the line!
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:11 PM
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6. According to one of the popular online dictionaries
it's either no one or hyphenated as no-one. There doesn't appear to be a history where it was one word.

None might be the closest you'll get to noone, though it would likely have to be ammended for definitions. This page at the Online Etymological Dictionary has some interesting histories of similar words, including the relatively recent nonetheless :)

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=none&searchmode=none
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:41 PM
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7. No-one.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:25 PM
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8. Sort of like "can not" and "cannot"?
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:35 PM
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9. Alot of people agree with you about this.
I, however, am not one of them. This time.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 09:11 PM
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10. I am not hundred percent sure on it either
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 09:21 PM by RandomThoughts
It is just a feeling, but change of language is a spoken about phenomenon in many texts, 'tower of babble'

So I been watching for that effect, since I have noticed similar usages of methods to break up consolidations.

Just in case that is something happening, watching for changes in metaphorical string table of labels, and rules applied back for some in marketing that have been doing that, the possibility of anything possible sorta keeps me watching for that effect.

However from within the system, the only way to see that is construct a secondary structured meaning to a word, then it is like finding a submarine where the lack of a correlation that use to be there becomes an indicator of a change.

Could just be a thought puzzle.

Wisconsin W is con sin.
Washington Was h in g 2000
Maryland Mary land


I am not effected by the 'delusion' of such things, and know such thoughts are a paradox.

Sorta just seeing it, as an indicator of something else, not as having its own meaning.



Side note, Somali is lawlessness anarchy, and getting as many (non material)soldiers out as possible is the goal. Or that is how I see that.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 12:07 PM
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12. It's Babel, not 'babble.' And no one has never been one word. n/t
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