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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:01 PM
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Stupid question: What's the difference between Best Album of the Year and Best Record of the Year?
Isn't a record technically an album? Where do the Grammy's draw the line? Or is this their way of allowing two albums/records to win?

If they can do Best Album AND Best Record, why can't the Oscars do Best Picture and Best Film? :rofl: :shrug:
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:05 PM
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1. Well, according to wikipedia
Many wonder what the difference is between Record of the Year and Album of the Year. Record of the Year is awarded for a single or for one track from an album. This award goes to the performing artist, the producer, recording engineer, and/or mixer for that song. Album of the Year is awarded for a whole album, and the award is presented to the artist, producer, recording engineer, and mastering engineer for that album. So, in this context, "record" means one song and "album" means the whole collection of songs on a CD or LP. In essence, "record" really just means single.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Album_of_the_Year

I was wondering the same thing earlier and happened to still have this open in another window.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:07 PM
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2. thanks! But then why not just call it Best Song of the Year?
And I see that a country song just beat out 4 rap songs. Go figure.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:14 PM
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6. there is a "Song Of The Year" award too - it goes to the songwriter
Edited on Sun Feb-13-11 11:30 PM by cbdo2007
The Oscar comparison would be more like, Best Film and Best Scene, with the scene just being a great scene from each film.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:30 PM
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9. The record is the whole enchilada--not just the songwriting itself,
but the production, performance, musicianship, everything. Record of the year is the award for the best finished-product-song. Song of the Year is for the best-written song.
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:07 PM
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3. Best record of the year is for a one song issued as a single
Best album is for the entire group of songs issued as one single recording.

The Oscars do have a separate category for short films, but little publicity is given to it.
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:08 PM
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4. My guess would be...
record=single song and album=all the songs. Picture should be like a bubblegum/popcorn movie, and film should be something serious and "deep". Like Armageddon vs Shawshank Redemption. One is a picture one is a film. At least that's what I think..
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:11 PM
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5. I agree completely with the Movie breakdown
Inception would win Best Picture, Black Swan would win Best Film.
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:26 PM
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7. I am a voting member of NARAS...
...it's pretty much like the #3 & #4 replies have said.

Album = entire body of work/all songs on the disc

Record = best Song out of all of the Albums

Song = award to the best Songwriter(s)
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 09:10 AM
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10. Question - how do you listen to all that music before the show?
to make your votes, it seems like listening to all those albums would be very time consuming.

Do they actually send you the full albums or just a sampling of a few songs?

Do you get to vote in all categories or just certain genres?

In Best New Artist, do they just send you one song from each person or the whole album from each person, or just a sampling of each song from the album?

I've always wondered this stuff. I know for the Oscars they send out those screener movies, but there are waaaaaaaay more categories for the Grammy's than the Oscars, so I would think listening to all that music and voting would be a full time job.
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 12:31 PM
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11. Sorry, I just saw your reply with your questions...
...I'll try to answer for you.

The first round is open to all voting members and the record companies. Put simply, all qualified entries are placed onto a preliminary ballot, and are voted on to establish the five nominees in each "field" on the final ballot.

(To be a voting member, you must apply for membership and supply the Academy with a minimum number of credits accumulated in the process of creating commercially available sound recordings. You must also, of course, pay the yearly dues to maintain your membership. I've been a member since 1992, I think.)

The final ballot is divided into two parts, Part One being: 1) Record of the Year 2) Album of the Year 3) Song of the Year and 4) Best New Artist. All voting members can vote for the nominees in Part One. The nominees/winners of these categories are what the TV broadcast generally centers on.

Part Two is broken down into 29 specialized fields, which may, in turn, contain from one, to several different categories. For example, Field 1 - Pop, has the following categories to select from on the final ballot: Female Pop Vocal, Male Pop Vocal, Pop Duo/Group w/Vocal, Pop Collaboration w/Vocal, Pop Instrumental Performance, Pop Instrumental Album, and Pop Vocal Album.

On this year's ballot, each voter was able to vote in up to eight Fields of the 29 (with a total of 92 categories within those 29 Fields), so that forces the voters to vote in the Fields they are most familiar with. For instance, I usually skip voting in Field 1 - Pop, Field 2 - Dance, and Field 3 - Traditional Pop, and start my voting in Field 4 - Rock (Solo Rock Vocal, Rock Duo/Group w/Vocal, Hard Rock, Metal, Rock Instrumental, Rock Song, Rock Album); Field 5 - Alternative (which has only one category, Alternative Album); Field 13 - American Roots (which contains categories such as Americana Album, Bluegrass Album Traditional Blues Album, Contemporary Blues Album, etc), Field 25 - Production Non-Classical (Best Engineered Album, Producer of the Year, and Remixed Recording), and so on.

As far as listening to everything that's nominated, NARAS has just last year set up a social networking site called Grammy365.com, where, if you're a NARAS member, you may join the site and listen to and communicate with the nominees and other NARAS members. The site members also "friend" each other and lobby on behalf of their projects, so due to that, I also received some CDs in the mail from some of the nominees, for my consideration come voting time.

So, as to your question regarding Best New Artist, no, there is no song or album or sampling sent out, you just have to vote for the Best New Artist as determined by your subjective opinion on the nominees, pretty much just like everything else on the ballot.

While it's not a "full time job," the whole process does take quite a bit of effort to do properly.

I was very happy for Arcade Fire this year.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 03:11 PM
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12. Wow, cool!! Thanks for answering.
I've always wondered that stuff and you cleared a lot of it up for me.

Who knows...maybe I'll end up being a voting member some day too!! (doubtful but it would be fun) My dream is to win "Song of the Year" some day :)
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 09:47 PM
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13. My pleasure, cbdo2007...
...based on your reply, I assuming you're a songwriter, best of luck with that!

All ya gotta do is write some good songs, record/release/market them (or get another recording artist/label/publishing company to do that), and you may qualify for membership.
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 09:48 PM
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14. Deleted, double post...nt
Edited on Mon Feb-14-11 09:49 PM by GReedDiamond
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 10:29 PM
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15. Oh, and one other thing, cbdo2007...
...you do not need to be a NARAS member to be nominated for a Grammy (or Grammys), so just keep writing those tunes.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:30 PM
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8. All I know is, I am thrilled the album went to Arcade Fire!
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