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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 05:33 AM
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Eagles coach Reid - Vick is now starting QB - Kolb "Has a bright future."
Kolb suffered a concussion halfway through game 1 vs the Packers, and was replaced by Vick, who did well, an dwho played very well in game 2. Kolb was scheduled to be the starter vs Jacksonville Sunday till yesterday, when Reid made the announcement.

On the Eagles website, Reid states that Vick is regaining his "superstar" abilities and that it would be foolish to keep him as a backup.

mark
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 06:47 AM
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1. Scumbag.
You couldn't pay me to watch an Eagles game with him as QB.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 07:13 AM
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2. LOL. Vick is seriously overrated as a QB as well
I mean of course all those SB victories in Atlanta should tell you right? :rofl:
In a few weeks of defensive scheming agaisnt Vick he'll look to be the totally inaccurate thrower that he is. Oh and in a conference of hard hitting D's I wouldn't expect him to stay healthy either.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 07:22 AM
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3. Reid called Vick a "superstar"...I must have missed that part of his career...
Edited on Wed Sep-22-10 07:24 AM by old mark
Reid also stated that Vick had led his team to a Superbowl, even thought they lost... So did McNabb, dude...

I think the Redskins are going to have a great season, not so much Philly.
I wonder if I can get the 'Skins games here in PA on Dish....have to call them.

mark

added: That "Kolb has a bright future" thing sounds likt they are getting rid of him...they said that about Donovan, too, 2 years ago!
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 07:44 AM
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4. The other problem is that the Eagles don't seem to have
much of a running game except Vick. When you guys play a well prepared defense I think thats going to seriously show..That one Atlanta team that went to the SB they had a great D and a great running game. Depending on one flashy guy to win your games is really foolish. I used to think Reid was a good coach. Not so much anymore.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:44 AM
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9. I know, the murderous thug was never a "superstar" ... just wait until he starts
when they play a real team...Kolb won't be on the sidelines long.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 12:28 PM
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15. Vick is the Jim McMahon of the post-McNabb era
At one time he might have been something and every once in awhile he can still show some brilliance but he's still just another QB filling the gap until we find McNabb's successor (which btw ain't Kolb either)
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 07:52 AM
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5. Hell, if I'm Kolb
I'm thanking my lucky stars,

The Eagles offensive line is, quite frankly, offensive. Hell, Detroit sacked Vick 6 times and Vick is still one of the most elusive qb's in the game.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:08 AM
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6. If I was Kolb, I wouldn't bother to unpack ...Reid seems to have had plans for this team
that obviously did not work, even this early on, and the season may look brighter to him with Vick... I still see no advantage over Donovan, but that's a dead horse, as Eagles management evidently does not make mistakes, ever - just ask them!

I was a real fan of Reid's, but I think he's lost his magic-also has many out injured already, and all his depth players are new guys.

I really am thinking the Skins will do very well in this division and no one else looks too capable.

mark
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:16 AM
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7. It seems to me like Reid is just getting plain tired n/t
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:22 AM
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8. This was a question asked Mike Missenelli this morning
when Mike and Mike had him on his show,

How much of this decision was made by the ownership group since Reid literally changed him mind overnite?

I think it's legit given the amount they have invested in Kolb and they're afraid he'll get busted up to the point where he'll become Ryan Leaf II.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:45 AM
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10. Vick and Kolb will be one of the many QBs we'll suffer thru until our next superstar QB
I remember the period between Randall Cunningham had many 'bright future of the Eagles' QB but none of them lasted for more than a partial season.

I knew the moment we traded Donovan and announced Kolb as the starter that he would have 3 games tops until he was replaced with Vick. I'm not here to discuss the history of Vick but he'll do for about a season until we give another random draft a chance. But it will be about 2-3 years until we get another starter QB with the same high quality caliber as Cunningham or McNabb.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 12:01 PM
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11. I recall some lean years after Jaws ( some of the Jaws years weren't great, either)
and I think 3 years is optimistic...it feels like they are about to seriously fall apart, with much blame and wailing...Think I'll be a Skins fan for a while.

mark
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 12:06 PM
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12. Good point there
We'll get these amazing QB that will rule over the Eagles Nest for years and then we'll have periods of obsurity which usually results in us sucking.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 01:08 PM
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16. Remember Bubby Brister? No more need be said....nt
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 01:30 PM
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17. Both sides of the state know
Bubby Brister.

He was just as big a joke in Pittsburgh.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 01:38 PM
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18. Oh geez I forgot about him. I just keep seeing visions of Bobby Hoying or Ty Detmer
:scared:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 04:45 PM
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19. Yeah, somehow they never mention him any more....
:shrug:

mark
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 12:22 PM
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13. I still say that was their plan all along.
Kolb never did anything last year to look like the QB of the future. They knew that naming Vick as their started in the offseason would start a firestorm amongst bored journalists and fans, so they named Kolb as the starter. They knew he'd fail within a few games, and they could slip Vick in the back door with a lot less attention focused on it, and with the excuse that they didn't have a choice.

Notice they never redesigned the offense around the more stationary Kolb. They were waiting for Vick.

Doesn't bother me any. Now maybe a few more people will root for my Great and Glorious Cowboys against the hated Eagles. :rofl:

Although I can't wait to hear the announcers get their subtle digs in. "Vick looks dog tired out there." "These two teams are in a real dog fight now." "(for when they play Green Bay) The Pack is ripping Vick to pieces." And of course, "Vick is drowning in a sea of blue jerseys."
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 12:27 PM
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14. Yeah that was about as obvious as the nose on your face
Even I figured they really wanted to go with Vick but knew there could be outrage if they announced it last year. Better to show Vick off in a few games where he actually looks pretty decent and then say "this is our starter".
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 04:50 PM
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21. I wouldn't give Eagles management so much credit for cleverness,
but hey, who knows at this point - maybe it's all a plot to get Kafka in the slot, after Vick's contract is up...:tinfoilhat: :wow: :crazy: :hi:


mark
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 04:47 PM
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20. jc, I just hope your cowboys keep their perfect record as long as possible...nt
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 04:56 PM
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22. I just hope the Great and Glorious Cowboys have already kept it as long as possible.
On the other hand, being in Austin, I'm also a Texans fan, so this next game creates conflict. :(
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 05:43 PM
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23. Well, one half of you will win...nt
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