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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:54 PM
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Poll question: New York or Los Angeles?
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 03:55 PM by elfwitch
If you HAD to live in one or the other, which would you pick and why?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:55 PM
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1. Both suck
None for me thanks.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:55 PM
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2. LA - I like the climate better.
I prefer warmer weather year-round.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:58 PM
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9. LA - weather and diversity
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:55 PM
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3. LA
Much better weather
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:55 PM
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4. Los Angeles
I'm sick of the weather in the Northeast. Even if a city is great, you still have to deal with rotten weather for half the year, and during that half of the year, the city doesn't seem so great:)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:56 PM
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5. NYC
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:57 PM
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6. New York
I live too close to Los Angeles already and I want out! :)
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:58 PM
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7. NYC, specifically Manhattan
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:58 PM
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8. If I could put NY in a big truck
and move it to SoCal, that would be optimal. But if I have to pick, I pick NYC, which is where I actually live. I still love going to LA a few times a year, especially in the wintertime. Can't beat the feeling of leaving snowy JFK behind and being on Venice Beach a few hours later.

But once the spring comes, I have no desire to go to LA.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:59 PM
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10. I would sooner die. I am sorry. I like visiting both, but I neeeeed wide
open spaces. :hi:
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:02 PM
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11. LA has great weather, but it's difficult to get around
I choose NYC, except for its sports teams! :D
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:05 PM
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12. She... had to leave...
LOS ANGELES!
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:06 PM
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13. can't chose lov LA weather/NY food
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 04:15 PM by mitchtv
grew up in NYC. live in Socal- I choose SF, a bit of both.
As for those who Hate them- enjoy the flyover part of the country you live in,I love them both- thank god for NY &CA
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TopesJunkie Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:33 PM
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18. Got nothing to do with flyover country... --
LA is a hole. Pure hell.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:39 PM
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23. There's nothing flyover about Chicago, my friend.
On the other hand, we're only too happy to exclude people who refer to us as flyover country.

Nobody got nuthin' on us.
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TopesJunkie Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:46 PM
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26. I'm from the Northwest (currently) and I still say "AMEN" to that!
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:31 PM
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44. nothin 'cept the weather
I have nothing against Chi, but how cwn people live in a climate that is colder in winter than NY and hotter in the summer?
San Francisco still outshines them all.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:58 PM
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47. Weather schmether.
We don't allow the weather to control us. We brush it aside, literally.

Not only that, but we can go anywhere in the world, and still feel comfortable.

We party, work, relax and exercise with total disregard for the weather. When it snows, we grill outside. When it storms, we go hiking. When it's hot, we shoot hoops. When it's below zero, we stay inside, start a fire and get cozy.

Everytime I hear someone complain about the weather, I know they must be from somewhere else.

;-)
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:12 PM
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37. For Real
As for those who Hate them- enjoy the flyover part of the country you live in,I love them both- thank god for NY & CA

Hate on NYC & SoCal only if you don't live in a place where you have to resort to cow tipping for entertainment.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:15 PM
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14. I have chosen. New York.
Nothing against LA, though. I'm just an East Coast kind of guy, I guess. And a public trasportation user.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:19 PM
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15. NYC
I'm just not a West Coast type of person. I'd rather live someplace where I never, ever, had to drive.
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TopesJunkie Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:25 PM
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16. NYC -- more to do, easier to get around, better walkability...
Plus, LA is a hole.
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tigerbeat Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:29 PM
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17. i've lived in both....
...and i have chosen LA. i really dig NYC but it's just too damn expensive.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:36 PM
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19. I lived in both cities...
L.A. for 12 years, now NYC for 4. I prefer NY. You can walk the streets and interact with people. My favorite thing about L.A. was that it was within a few-hours' drive of San Fran, Death Valley, Las Vegas, and Mexico. It was a one-horse town in my (admittedly limited) experience: movies, music, TV. In short: fame and celebrity. The seasons never change in L.A. This drove me mad after a while (I'm from the East Coast originally, and I missed fall, spring and winter.) I'm glad I took a chance and moved to NY. It's tough-sledding to be sure (VERY expensive), but like the song says, "If you can make it, here you'll make it anywhere." That is indeed my goal. Whereas, L.A. is a city wherein Tara Reid can become a millionaire.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:38 PM
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20. As a Jersey Boy ....
Born in Passaic ... raised in Lodi ...

Moved to the LA basin (Long Beach) at age 11 ...

I dont think the dry heat is worth the smog and traffic ...

After recently visiting NYC again for the first time in 33 years last Fall .... (and of course visiting Lodi .... ) ...

I must vote: NYC .... by a long shot ....

LA exists ....

NYC LIVES and BREATHES ....

LA is laid back ...

NYC PULSES with life ....

NYC is da bomb .....
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:52 PM
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45. the mighty, mighty ANCHOR
of these united states.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:38 PM
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21. I cannot stand LA
so it's NYC by default.
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disenfranchised Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:39 PM
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22. Los Angeles
I just went hiking for my lunch break. It's clear and in the 70s. The hills around my house are in bloom with poppies and lupine. I saw a good play Friday night, spent Saturday at the beach, and worked in my garden on Sunday. I rent a two bedroom house on a couple acres on the border of a state park for the cost of a single apartment in Manhattan.

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robnycny Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:23 AM
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50. Thanks for this post.
Raised in Seattle - lived in NYC for 8 years (love it) and now moving to LA in Sept (for partner's work). I'm looking forward to it - and your post was a nice boost. So, thanks.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:43 PM
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24. I've never seen LA, but if it is nicer than Chicago I'll go
Because Chicago is nicer than NY so by the transitive property LA would beat NYC. Until I find this out I must remain undecided.
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TopesJunkie Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:45 PM
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25. Chicago kicks butt over LA! --
Not that it's hard to do so... --
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:49 PM
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28. Chicago kicks butt over NYC too.
So I guess I'd want to go to Chicago. Besides unlike NYC and LA, Chicago has a good football team.
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TopesJunkie Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:15 PM
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32. Better yet, Chicago has a good baseball team.
I'd still prefer NYC, though.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:49 PM
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27. picking NYC only because I'm gonna be there more next month...
I want to be treated nicely there :)

av8rdave
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:09 PM
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29. New York City would be my choice
between the two, I love it's history and cultural diversity, I like having 4 seasons, and I would not want to live in Ahnold's fascist neighborhood at all.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:22 PM
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38. As opposed
To Rudy Giulianni's fascist neighborhood?
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:11 PM
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30. LA
I'm a West Coast type of gal.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:14 PM
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31. NYC, no contest.
Everything near. Can live without a car. Central Park. Museums. The works.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:22 PM
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33. Los Angeles
I understand why some people dislike LA--I didn't love it when I first moved here--but it is incredibly seductive. I love the weather, since I get to bitch when it is cooler than 60 and warmer than 80. I love the diverstiy. I love the ability to go swiming, skiiing, and hiking in the desert on the same day. I love its freeways as the ultimate democratizing space. I love its crass, mass cultural feel, its consumerism, and its dim wittedness. I find those more appealing, for some reason, than NY's crassness, its love of "high" culture (i.e., the Met and Broadway, the latter of which is no longer particularly high), and the blatant consumerism of the remade Times Square.
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DEM FAN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:29 PM
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34. LA. Better Weather. Plus I Love The West Coast.
:-)
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disenfranchised Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:41 PM
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35. I agree with you.
LA grows on you. You have to love a city where the lead story on the eleven o'clock news is that it's hot.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:41 PM
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36. Toss up.
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 05:45 PM by ronnykmarshall
I live in LA, but I'd LOVE to live in New York.

But I'd hate to be so far from my family.


So it's a toss up.

on edit: After reading some of the LA bashing, I had to defend my turf!!
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:28 PM
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39. LA
'Cause I do.

My son's birthday is in January--we had an outdoor bouncehouse, kids playing in the backyard in tee-shirts and shorts. It was an absolutely gorgeous day.

Looks like another perfect day.

(btw, we DO have seasons here--fire, flood, earthquake, and PERFECT).
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:38 PM
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40. L.A. by far.
Great weather, Sunset Strip, Venice Beach, year-round surfing, Hollywood Blvd, theme parks all over the place. I've been to New York a million times and it's cool and all but L.A. owns it.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:28 PM
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41. Never been to LA
I've been to NYC several times though. I can't answer since I don't really know.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:47 PM
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42. LA for the weather and laid-back nature
I think NY is fun to visit, but I am a West Coast gal, born and bred.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:51 PM
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43. New York or what?
You mean there are other cities in the United States? I ask that, in all seriousness, as a non New Yorker.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:47 PM
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46. I've lived in both
Love the NY energy, but prefer the LA weather.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 05:40 AM
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48. LA, baby. Like, omigod, totally! Fer shur!
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 06:09 AM by ForrestGump
Not that I've ever been to New Yawk (well, not in the sense of walking around the place). I never wanted to go until the last few years, when I thought I should at least check it out. I've never really been a 'city' person and NYC just seems so much more urban than does the sprawl of LA and its megalopolis. More formal, more bustling, more gritty and dirty, more noisy -- basically, everything that's anathema to this dude.

A lot of the attitudes in LA (especially the shallowness that's particularly pervasive in the omnipresent entertainment industry) suck, the smog sucks, the traffic sucks, the weather doesn't suck, and perhaps it's as simple as LA being the devil that I do know. It's also not that difficult to get out of the city and into some truly excellent territory, desert, coast, or mountain. Of course, good luck if you actually have to cross a significant chunk of LA first. There's a lot that I've never liked about LA, but there's a definite feeling in SoCal that can still make everything somehow seem well (even if it isn't). Other SoCal cities are better packages -- I love San Diego -- and it's the only place I know of where a fair number of people still believe the Beach Boys. It may be illusion but, hey, illusion's done here better than anywhere. Even the excess has its appeal, if you're not so immersed in it that you can't see it for what it is. And, dude, we got Disneyland.

I basically need to be on the Pacific Rim. I love the Mojave Desert, as well as the other desert and mountain areas of the Southwest. I need those wide open spaces, and -- though I've certainly lived in more geographically-constrained places -- nowhere I've been out East offers that, not in the same way. Draw a line just east of the Austin-San Antonio axis and you've pretty much described my optimal US habitat, and the closer to the ocean, the better. Some places just seem to have a certain vibration, and most of my geographical good vibes in the US have been emitted in the southwestern wilds. And the Pacific coastline, all the way up into the beautiful Pacific Northwest, just happens to appeal to me on an elemental level that its eastern equivalent cannot begin to approach. I may not be an 'LA kinda guy,' but I'm quite the 'Western kinda guy' and definitely a Pacific kinda guy.

P.S.: I couldn't handle Chicago...was there years ago and just couldn't wait to leave. No offense intended to Windy City DUers, but that fact does rather make me wonder if I'm just predisposed to not feeling right in a city like NYC. Southern cities feel good to me, though...weird.

Hate New York City
It's cold and it's damp
And all the people dressed like monkeys
Let's leave Chicago to the Eskimos
That town's a little too rugged
For you and me, you bad girl

Roll down the window, put down the top
Crank up the Beach Boys, baby
Don't let the music stop
We're gonna ride it till we just can't ride it no more

From the South Bay to the Valley
From the West Side to the East Side
Everybody's very happy
'Cause the sun is shining all the time
Looks like another perfect day

I love L.A. (We love it)
I love L.A. (We love it)




EDIT: 'cos I forgot how to post stuff...
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 06:18 AM
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49. NY, if only because it isn't Arizona Bay
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 06:19 AM by Aidoneus
I'd prefer Portland.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:37 AM
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51. I'm a westerner all the way, and I'd still go with NYC.
Sorry, but LA is anything but laid back. Ya'll built a city based on stress creation, that's why the industry for stress busting is so big there.

The truth is that Seattle, Portland, Vancover and San Francisco have far more in common with NYC than LA. Heck, one could say the same thing of Missoula, Flagstaff, Boise, Eugene, Port Townsend, and many other truly western towns.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:52 AM
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52. L.A.
I moved here from Tx. almost 15 years ago and consider this my home. I LOVE the vibe of the west coast. The weather can't be beat. I love it that I can go skating at Venice Beach, Skiing at Big Bear, and hiking in the hills all on the same weekend. I've also met some wonderful people here.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:57 AM
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53. The true west coast is north of LA and south of the border.
LA is a great example of human folly, with most of the beach inaccessible to most people, with a population dependent on air conditioning and water diverted to the area from hundreds and thousands of miles away. I know there are some great people there, and I'm sure it's an improvement over your past living situation, but compared to many other places, it's just not all that. I don't mean to be negative, but I do think it's wise to be choosy, to demand that we create more livable, walkable communities for ourselves.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:30 AM
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54. Clearly New York
It's the only real modern, truly diverse international city in the world. Love the culture, love the food, love the subway, love the people. I love walking anonymously among 10 million people. I've lived in several different places, but it's the only place that will ever really be home.
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:42 AM
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55. LA - the beaches, the weather, the laid back attitude
I've never lived there, but I'm guessing I'd love it.
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