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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 05:49 AM
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I love the smell of toasted bread in the morning .
Toasted with napalm ... I kid .

I genuinely enjoy the whole experience , thats the best way to eat bread.

With a little Jam , or cottage cheese , mmmmmm yummy.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:00 AM
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1. Heh, that is funny.
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 06:01 AM by RandomThoughts
Need to find something much more effective then napalm

heh

ever think that was what all the na na na was about.

na palm. LOL

been thinking that is funny for awhile also.



However, I am having a bit of an empathy issue right now, thinking what is the most effective way to actually have an effect that matches the impossible ideas, been thinking on intent for years, I wonder if intent can be linked to effect in some way.

has to be far more then napalm to toast bread, much more then that, much more grandiose to fit the impossible, really big show stopper. Something inconceivable, incomprehensible, a delusion of grandure to match the Han solo comment to luke in beggining of Return of the Jedi.

Really a spectacle.

http://www.comcast.net/video/grand-tour-disaster-in-time/614367583/


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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:04 AM
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3. Are you ok ? sticking to your meds I hope.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:08 AM
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4. yea, you would have had to see all the posts.
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 06:13 AM by RandomThoughts
I am fine, I have fun thinking about the impossible. Concepts of what could be, sort of a writing thing.

Trying to solve a logic puzzle between intent and effect right now.


Still have the feeling, but having some issues with empathy also.

Gordon Lightfoot - If You Could Read My Mind. With no self claim, there is something in this song, can you see it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0a3DFUU0Y


Its not about me, but there is something there, for sure, it seems many people feel that way.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:11 AM
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5. I long as you don't barbecue children and drink puppy blood you are ok in my book.
In fact , I think I am falling in love with you.

Are you man or a woman ?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:18 AM
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6. Heh, I am a dude.

and I am straight, and that is a nice comment.





Although relationships really are difficult, since I try to see everything in metaphor, and have no resources in material things. And have to solve some problems still.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:21 AM
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7. I am a rectangle , and my comment was not nice , silly Earthling.
what problems ? you have cooties ?
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:25 AM
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8. I hope you're joking
Although I wouldn't call it very 'funny'
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:26 AM
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9. yes mom.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:32 AM
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10. It was very nice, it spoke of love.
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 06:33 AM by RandomThoughts
I don't have many problems myself, or not many at least, however I have found something impossible to work on, and it is really impossible, so trying to think on some method of tying intent to effect, within concepts of what I believe is best.

If effects can be linked to intent, somehow, then things should be alot easier.

thinking....


Although I am having some empathy issues right now, so need to get back in those thoughts soon, but trying to solve the logic problem first. Sorta of the comment of stepping out and stepping in mentioned in another post, so trying to solve a logic problem then step back in, then if results still match, seeing if something can be thought to make sense.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:38 AM
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11. the wee wee goes into the hooha ... hope this helps you in your quest.
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 06:39 AM by UndertheOcean
OF WORLD DOMINION !!! BWAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAA
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:58 AM
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12. Domination is bad.
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 07:22 AM by RandomThoughts
The point is to stop domination, but you are within the scope of the problem, the problem with transitioning intent to effect is not dominating or not stealing free will, hence why it has to be done without domination.

But effect requires free will action of other people, so linking intent to effect requires people acting with one intent, so that the effect is not domination but free will choice of many people.

So the better intents, or better angels of people must be brought to the top of the people so that they have the same intents, and can have the effect.

However multipliers like media and consolidation put a pressure on free will and thought, keeping much intents from reaching effect in many people also, so besides intent, their must be works also, and that requires hope and no apathy or despair.

So it seems for intent to become effect, first there must be many of good intent, then a state of existence in those people to be able to move their intents into effect.


The question I am currently working on is if a cumulative intent of many people should be made stronger then a leveraged intent of a few people, should the effects outside of people, money for example, be penalized by its lack of equal value in ability to determining effects. And if that effect, as a counter effect, be some limiting of resources of money. Because money does not have free will, it is possible such an effect would not be against free will, and if enough people of intent thought a certain way, then they would have the reason for the effect from their intents.

So I am thinking that eliminating the multiplier of effects of things like money may not have any free will impact, since money is not a person, and why also the corporate person is so dangerous if people accept it, because it is an attempt to pass free will protection to material objects within the minds of people that worship that stuff.

Or something like that, still thinking on it.

However, there is a problem with any effect outside the system of the legitimacy of government by representation also, so government would have to be shown to not have authority if it is an effect of leveraged money. Since if it had authority that would be an issue. So looking at non sanctioned forms of government like shares of stocks and corporations, and again why corporate person hood is so wrong. Since it is an attempt to get an ideology as a unit above its value the ability to use its far lower form of power at the same level of individuals. Although that only occurs if people believe that concept.

So in summary, people have free will and dignity, and only if they put value in money do they transfer their ability to decide the direction of society to those items, not by its power, but by them giving it power by agreeing with it being valid. So if the intents of many people are better, and they have the effects of good works, then they should be able to have an effect regardless of leverage items, but do those leverage items have to be removed by effects of people, or can they be removed by other means based on not being valid. Hence why system collapse may be necessary to remove any possibility of authority claim from a system before intent to actions can be based on a equal value for all people.

Basically it is the concept of removal of things blocking good intents from being effect, by removing multipliers, by removing peoples belief in those multipliers being valid, or by even removing the structures those multipliers used for control a control claimed by getting people to think they have control.

I think that is why collapse is part of fixing things in some thoughts on systems.

Or something like that.

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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 07:08 AM
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13. Pink Elephant .
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 07:19 AM
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14. Could you elaborate more on that. n/t
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 07:24 AM
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15. I thought that was your job , elaborating on "that"
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:04 PM
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17. Maybe so, an interesting thought.
Although I sorta thought the job is for everyone to think and feel on many things, to find what they think and feel is better.

If it was for me to elaborate, you would just hear my views, and being flawed also, would that be best? Maybe if we all elaborate on what we think and feel we can learn from each other.

Finding the good parts in all of us, and helping us with the flaws we all have.

:hug:

Thanks for the comment, it helps me think and feel on things also.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:17 PM
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19. I am beginning to think you are an AI program.
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:02 AM
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2. Mmmm toast...
And a good cheesy omelette with mushrooms, green peppers and onions and maybe some hash browns on the side. Gosh, I'm hungry... I hadn't realized it till you mentioned toasted bread. :spank: JK! :hi:
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betharina Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:18 AM
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16. smells like ...victory. nt
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:11 PM
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18. I like waking up to the smell of bacon, sue me.
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