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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:20 PM Original message |
Who would have won if the Soviets had attacked the allies |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. Mine is only an uninformed opinion |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Agree. I think the Red Army had momentum, but we had the industrial stuff. nt |
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MiddleFingerMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. I can tell you that in 1974 or -75, during the annual Nato war games... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. Stalemate. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. So, to be clear. The result of the Stalemate would be |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Would the Germans have accepted Soviet occupation? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Hell yeah, they were scared as fuck and the Soviets were looking for any excuse to take revenge. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. There was some thought |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. Hiroshima wouldn't have happened |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Purely hypothetical |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. At the time of Hiroshima and Nagasaki we had two bombs...which we used on said cities. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 04:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I take attacked allies in 1945 to simply mean that the Soviets kept going West through Germany. |
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Dr Morbius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. The good old U.S. of A. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. The Allies. The USSR took a hell of a beating in driving back the Nazis... |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. my uninformed opinion - allies. we had the bomb. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. I know who would have lost: The Jews |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. No, I don't think so. Should the plight of Jews been a higher priority? Yes! |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. No - you misunderstand me |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Ah, got you. nt |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
11. What is the book? Curious |
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Dr Morbius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:21 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. True, but the arsenal was small because the need wasn't there. |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I think they were pushing production pretty hard |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. I apologize for being unclear |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. "Red Inferno: 1945" by Robert Conroy |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. The Japanese were succesful at Pearl Harbor |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Oops. You're right. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. That would have been interesting |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. Of all things, Newt Gringrich had a couple of books |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. Red Inferno: 1945 |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. The book is Red Inferno 1945 by Robert Conroy |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
13. Need more data. Where are the Soviets attacking the Allies? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
15. Oliver Stone n/t |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
39. I don't think they mentioned Oliver Stone in the book |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
18. Stalin never picked a fight with kid his own size. He rarely attacked & only attacked weaklings. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
20. What would the Germans have done in that case? |
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dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
21. Depends on the scale of the engagement. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Yes, but we could have held ground well. Remember, we held our forces back. nt |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Good point. The book doesn't mention the US combat manpower |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
32. The US would have won |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
33. Read this: |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. Love that book. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I've read it three times and I STILL don't get it. And I still LIKE it. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. It entirely depends on whose side Switzeland entered. |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Good point and don't forget the Swiss Guards at the Vatican |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
41. The Soviets would have rehashed the Nazi conquest. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Throw in the towel, saw that in a video recently. |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
45. For one the USSR was part of "The Allies" but if they... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Too-long supply lines, inferior air-force and no nukes. |
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Angleae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
49. Had it happened, Moscow would have suffered the same as Hiroshima/Nagasaki. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
50. the cockroaches. |
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Lurks Often (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
51. Would have been messy |
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