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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:27 PM
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A Question for Jazz Lovers
I have a theory about people who consider Jazz their favorite form of music. My theory is that most Jazz lovers currently play an instrument and/or studied/played an a instrument for an extended period of time in their lives, say more than two years.

Is my theory out of bounds?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:39 AM
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1. Well, jazz is not my "favorite", but I like it, draw from it, have listened to it
for 45 years are so. I do play several instruments, and have been a paid professional musician for about 15 years in the past.

I'd say a lot of jazz listeners play instruments to one degree or another.

mark
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:47 AM
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2. I love jazz and go to many
live performances as well as listen to jazz via internet, etc.

An instrument? Playing the spoons would even be a challenge. ;)
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:09 AM
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3. I'd say it is for me.
I just like wearing sun glasses during the day and calling people 'cats'...... :)
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:35 AM
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4. My theory is that some jazz is more fun to play than it is to listen to.
But that probably applies to any improvisation-intensive activity.

I know I got into jazz because I played trumpet in our high school stage band. Never got the hang of improvisation, though.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:27 AM
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5. I became a jazz lover after I became a better musician
I suspect that my earlier antipathy toward jazz was rooted in a kind of sour grapes chops deficiency.
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:40 PM
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6. Don't know about your theory . . . but I wonder if it might apply to John Deere's jazzy musique ===>
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 01:41 PM by Petrushka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJSu12sWPFY&feature=related


This machine was made as a collaborative effort between Robert M. Trammell Music Conservatory and Sharon Wick School Engineering at the University of Iowa. 97% of the machines components came from John Deere Industries and Irrigation Equipment of Bancroft Iowa. It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, alignment, calibration, and tuning before filming this video. Now on display in the Matthew Gerhard Alumni Hall at the University, it is already slated to be donated to the Smithsonian.

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:15 PM
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7. that is insane!
The imagination, innovation and hard work it took to create that is beyond belief! :thumbsup:
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:16 PM
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11. I want one for Christmas!
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 03:31 PM by Petrushka
Or, maybe, this fantastic instrument:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKAoK9EOnFw&feature=related


:hi:
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:03 PM
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12. Snopes says that machine does not exist
100% computer generated.

The device depicted in this video does not exist, at the University of Iowa or anywhere else. It's an example of a computer-animated music video, this one entitled "Pipe Dream" and taken from one of several similar segments on a DVD produced by Animusic.

Smithsonian has debunked it, too:


    Your inquiry concerning a musical instrument made from farm machinery pieces has been received in the Smithsonian's Public Inquiry Mail Service office for a response.

    The web site you referred us to shows a computer enhanced or animated creation as indicated by the caption "Musique Animation" and not an actual musical instrument. Further, we were unable to find any reference to a Robert M. Trammel Music Conservatory and the University of Iowa does not have a Sharon Wick School of Engineering nor a Matthew Gerhard Alumni Hall.

    The Institution cannot accept a donation of something that doesn't exist.


    We appreciate your interest in the Smithsonian Institution.


http://www.snopes.com/photos/arts/musicmachine.asp
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:09 PM
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13. Bummer! I already mailed my letter to Santa.
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 04:20 PM by Petrushka
:cry:
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:49 PM
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16. Just 'cause it doesn't exist now doesn't mean the kind elves can't cobble one together for you
The question is, "Have you been naughty or nice?" Only Santa and you know that answer.

I want pictures Christmas morning. :)
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 08:49 AM
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17. Santa knows how---at MY age!---nowadays, there's no question because . . .
:blush:
. . . being nice-n-naughty
is only a fond memory.








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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:35 PM
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15. yep, makes sense
Once I was able to see it on a full size pc screen I figured out it was animated. It looked real on my iphone screen and it was really freaking me out!
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grilled onions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:56 PM
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8. I Love Dixieland Jazz
But I couldn't play a paper w/ comb or bang a pot with a wooden spoon if I tried! To me Dixieland is more of a fun music rather then a study of sounds and techniques. It's foot tappin quality.
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FailingParachute Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:59 PM
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9. I have loved jazz for years, and am just now learning piano in my late 50's
Whenever I see or hear Renee Rosnes play I want to cut my hands off. :)
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:16 PM
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10. most, yes you're probably correct - or at least "a lot"
Then again, I know more than a few jazz lovers who are not musicians at all. But as a genre, jazz - especially post-Miles Davis or Ornette Coleman - is a type of music that expects the listener to understand a little of what's going on to appreciate it. One of the best descriptions I've heard for a successful improvisation is that you should find the balance between surprising the audience and meeting their expectations. If you constantly surprise them, you'll lose everyone but the neophile experience junkies who thrive on chaos, and if you constantly meet their expectations, you'll bore everyone to death. That definition implies that the audience will have at least a little grasp of the typical structures and when they are broken. That said, someone can be an avid listener and be thus informed without knowing how to achieve it themselves.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:27 PM
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14. I love jazz
and have long avoided it so that I don't burn through all of my money.

I've only taken a little theory and playing class, but helped -design- an instrument...does that count?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alesis_Andromeda
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