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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 11:26 AM
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Dexter non sequitur (**with spoilers**)
In the latest episode, a titillating examination of Deb's entry and exit wounds indicates that the bullet was traveling horizontally. Everyone agrees that this belated observation rules out Trinity (a tall man) as the shooter. This conclusion might follow if the shooting were up close and personal. But we saw that the shooter was far away.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 11:40 AM
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1. We didn't see anything
The camera was tight on Deb and Lundy. All we know is that the shots came from the darkness.

I am totally befuddled by this new wrinkle in the story. For the moment, I'm thinking that reporter gal shot them. Then again, Deb's ex-boyfriend could had shot them from a crouched position.

I knew Trinity would live to see another episode. John Lithgow is too awesome to kill so soon.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 12:17 PM
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3. You may be right.
It's been a while since the shooting episode, but I seem to recall seeing a figure in the distance.

At this point we haven't a clue about the identity of the shooter.

I wouldn't be surprised if Trinity got the upper hand over Dexter, say in the next to last episode of the season. At the end, of course, Trinity will perish and Dexter will survive.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 11:44 AM
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2. Is Dexter's wife poised for an affair ...
and who shot Deb and Lundy?
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 12:20 PM
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4. Good questions.
We can only speculate.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:28 PM
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11. yes and Anton
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 12:28 PM
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5. I knew from the get go it wasn't Trinity.
Far too many holes. First of all, Trinity seemed rather happy (almost orgasmic) when he spotted Lundy and realized that he had been "found". Then I saw no reason for his intentional bump into Lundy (aside from lots of speculation I heard that he planted a tracking device on him). Then when he found out about Lundy getting killed, he got visibly upset and lashed out at the waitress at the diner. Also, when Dexter went to evidence, he was able to find Lundy's tape recorder which included the description of Trinity. If Trinity killed Lundy in order to cover his tracks, wouldn't he have also taken the time to grab his recorder and not just his wallet and watch? No doubt the killer was trying to emulate the vacation killer, but it couldn't have been Trinity.

My guess is Quinn's girlfriend. It seems she's extremely ambitious and might have used this story as a way of creating news to further her career. She probably got details regarding the vacation killer from Quinn to make the shootings more believable.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 12:57 PM
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6. I never thought it was Trinity, either.
The shooting doesn't fit Trinity's MO.

Quinn's girlfriend is obviously using him. She reminds me of Jane Fonda's character in "Klute", who was looking at her watch as she said: "Oh, my darling! Oh my darling!"

But I don't see Quinn's girlfriend as a killer. Her motive, as you describe it, seems kind of weak. Both Trinity and Deb's ex-boyfriend had much better motives.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 01:37 PM
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7. I don't think it's Anton now either.
Before, Anton was one of my prime suspects. He could have killed Lundy out of jealousy and then just wounded Deb so he could get back with her. But now that we know the killer is around Masuka's height, Anton seems to me to be too tall to be the killer. That's why the reporter jumped to the top of my list last night.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 07:32 PM
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8. We know that the cops THINK the killer is around Masuka's height.
But they could be mistaken. It depends on how far the shooter was from his or her victims. We can judge this for ourselves by watching the last scene of episode 4, "Dex Takes a Holiday", which includes the following sequence of shots (mostly close-ups):

1. Deb backs up, saying "Don't go disappearing on me again."

2. Lundy says "Not a ...", but then he sees something, and a gun is fired.

3. Deb is still smiling; then she looks down and

4. Deb's hand pulls away from her dress to reveal a wound.

5. No longer smiling, Deb looks back up and starts to fall.

6. Deb lands on the pavement.

7. (This is the crucial shot - or maybe it's three shots - from Lundy's point of view.) A view of the street where Lundy saw something. It's very dark, but we can see that there is nobody very close to the victims. The camera is moving slowly (probably on a track). The gun is fired two more times. The position of the camera shifts each time the gun is fired. Lundy falls to the pavement.

8. Deb (still lying on the ground) is conscious.

9. Lundy (still lying on the ground) is unconscious. A hand reaches into his pocket. A pair of legs walks away.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 07:52 PM
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9. Can't they determine from ballistics how far away the shooter was?
There should be no question, and Deb and Masuka both seemed to assume something like (I thought they said 5 feet, but it looked more like they enacted 10 feet or so). It shouldn't be a question mark, imho.

I never thought it was Trinity either, it just doesn't fit his MO. And when he was in the diner and saw the news about Lundy, his anger could be interpreted as either that he was upset that Lundy was killed, or upset that the "Vacation Killer" got the credit. I think he was upset that his arch nemesis was killed.

It seemed that Lundy recognized whoever it was that shot them.

Also, back on the distance of the shooter, it was only a few seconds before the shooter was rifling through Lundy's pockets, so he couldn't have been too far away. Did we see the hands of the shooter? Did they look small, like a female?
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 09:57 PM
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10. What we saw was a glove reaching into Lundy's pocket,
then a pair of legs walking away. I couldn't tell anything about the shooter from those images.

The timing might indicate that the shooter was close. Or maybe the timing was subjective, not real.

The shooter couldn't have been very close, or we would have seen him or her. We should have seen flashes as the gun was fired, unless the shooter was very far away.

I don't know what could be determined from ballistics.
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