Does Hip-Hop/Rap remind anyone else of lyric poetry found in traditional cultures?

[Odin2005]

In many traditional cultures stories are poems recited to a rhythmic beat in a song-like fashion. It always reminds of Rap music, which seems similar.

[MrScorpio]

1. Brazilians speak in a sing song fashion

And Capoeira reminds me of break dancing

[UndertheOcean]

2. NOOOO ... Rap (or "sound shit" as I like to call it ) has nothing to do with culture , any culture

Rap is one of those things that I wish we can hide away when Aliens visit.

[Odin2005]

3. Wow, judgemental much?

There's plenty of good rap out there, you just have to ignore the popular "Gangsta" shit.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

4. You are truly ignorant.

[UndertheOcean]

5. No I am not , kiddo ,.... I listened to rap before forming an opinion

nice try.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

7. Wow, all of it?

Or you mean you heard some shit on the radio? You probably think the Black Eyed Peas are real hip-hop.

Do everyone a favor and educate yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop

[UndertheOcean]

8. "wow , all of it " ...pretty much .

[Odin2005]

10. Yep, ignorant.

[UndertheOcean]

12. Saying so makes it so ? ok

[Starbucks Anarchist]

14. No, your own words make it so.

[UndertheOcean]

15. Just because they don't agree with yours , or are not PC

meh...

[Starbucks Anarchist]

16. What does "PC" have to do with this?

You claiming it "has nothing to do with culture, any culture" when there is clear evidence to the contrary is what's ignorant, not you personally hating the few songs you've heard.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

11. Then you must have an insane amount of free time.

I just posted a link upthread you should seriously read before saying anything else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop

[Odin2005]

9. Some people think all music after the 70s was shit, or something.

:eyes:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

13. True.

And I listen to music from the 1920s through today. I think exposing myself to all types of music has made me appreciate the good in every genre.

[Odin2005]

17. Heh, the Rap-bashing is very similar to the bashing of Jazz in the 20s.

Would be "defenders of Western Civilization against cultural decadence" decried Jazz as "degenerate N***er music".

[UndertheOcean]

18. Except Jazz is real music , not some sampled shit by talentless morons

[Starbucks Anarchist]

20. No, there's quite a bit of jazz that sucks, i.e., smooth jazz.

Hip-hop's equivalent of smooth jazz is the current Auto-tune craze, among other subgenres. Every genre has its positives and negatives. And not all rappers/hip-hop artists sample or sample in uncreative ways, but I wouldn't expect you to know that.

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[Starbucks Anarchist]

24. Once again, your own words prove how you think.

If you don't want people to make negative assumptions about you, then say something that's actually well-thought out and informed.

[UndertheOcean]

25. I already did , you just did not recognize it

[Odin2005]

22. LOL, you just proved my point.

In the 1920s people that hated Jazz said the same thing, that is wasn't "real music".

[UndertheOcean]

23. nevermind

[Starbucks Anarchist]

19. And Sinatra thought Elvis was vulgar.

Funny how things change.

[Skip Intro]

6. I'll second that. Do not want.

[rcrush]

26. Studio churned sell out shit is NOT hip hop.

Like what Jay Z is now or any of those douches whos videos get played all the time on BET.

But artists that actually have some talent and try to say something are out there to. They dont get the exposure someone like T-Pain gets because they dont have as much booty talk in their songs.

But Paris, Dead Prez, Immortal Technique, Public Enemy, Krs One etc are what I would call good rappers.


edit I think I replied to the wrong part of the thread.


Hip Hop has deep cultural roots.