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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:06 PM
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whats the difference between coke zero and diet coke?
and why are there no diet sodas made with splenda and no aspartame?
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:13 PM
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1. Answers, not really.
1.) No idea, I don't drink diet soda.
2.) Aspartame is cheap, Splenda is a brand-name product and is expensive. The generic name is sucralose and I have no idea if there are any sucralose-only diet sodas, I know Fuze makes diet sucralose-only juice beverages.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:30 PM
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4. Diet Rite products are made with Splenda
Most places sell the cola and couple of the other flavors. I'm quite fond of the red raspberry and the tangerine. I understand they're coming out with a cherry cola.
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sazemisery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:19 PM
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2. Diet Coke with the yellow stripe has Splenda.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 07:33 PM
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5. interesting.
this bears further research.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:24 PM
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3. Coke Zero, for my money, tastes more like "real coke"
seems to have less of an aftertaste than Diet Coke. Maybe it's just the emperor's new cola, in a snazzy black can...
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:44 PM
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9. I like it better, too.
And Vanilla Coke Zero is very tasty...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:27 PM
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21. I prefer the taste of diet coke to coke zero.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:05 PM
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6. Diet Coke was supposed to taste like New Coke, or Pepsi.
Short answer is that Diet Coke was supposed to taste sweeter than Classic Coke, like Pepsi. Coke Zero tastes like Classic Coke, or as much as it can without having sugar.

Longer answer, Diet Coke was the start of the Cola Wars. Coke had been losing money, and they got a new CEO who wanted to try new things. They had always only made one product--Coca Cola--but he started experimenting because Pepsi was gaining in sales, and other products like RC had a bigger market than they do now. So his first change was Diet Coke, because other people were making diet sodas. However, at that time Pepsi and Coke were starting their taste test frenzy, and Coke's data (and Pepsi's) showed that more people chose Pepsi in a blind taste test.

So the Coke R&D folk came up with a sweeter product that scored well in the taste tests, and made a diet drink of it--Diet Coke. They released it and it was hugely successful and so the new Coke CEO was suddenly a genius, and he started getting bold. That's when he came out with New Coke, which was originally just supposed to be Coca Cola and replace the old formula completely. It was sweeter than the old product and won in taste tests over Pepsi.

New Coke, of course, bombed. Even though it won in taste tests, and was successful when it first came out, there was a backlash against it. Purists rallied boycotts and anti-New Coke rallies. The South especially felt betrayed, because they saw Coke as a southern product. More logically, also, Pepsi already had the loyalty of people who liked the sweeter cola, so New Coke didn't bite into its market base as much as expected, even if people preferred it in a taste test, and of course they completely lost the market for those who preferred the old, less sweet but stronger taste. Sales plummeted, and finally they introduced "Classic Coke" to be sold alongside "New Coke," and a decade or so later "New Coke" had vanished.

But Diet Coke continued to sell very well, since it tasted more like New Coke, and it was an original diet soda so it had no market loyalty issues. Decades later, Coke once again began experimenting with new products, with Cherry Coke and Vanilla Coke and a diet Coke that had half the sugar with aspertame. There was a market explosion of new soda products everywhere, especially diet or sugar free products, and that's when they came up with Coke Zero, which was supposed to be a new diet Coke that tasted like Classic Coke.

Something like that, anyway. I'm too lazy to look up names and dates, but it was once a favorite story of mine.

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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:44 AM
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20. I am in awe ...

Really. That anyone could just rattle that off like that amazes me. :)

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:13 PM
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7. I think there is a version of 7Up with splenda
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:28 PM
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15. I found one today
supposedly has a tinsey little bit of real juice, and splenda. 7up Plus. Splenda is better than aspartamine, but still not pleasant to taste. Damn sugar for being so damned superior.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:32 PM
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8. Tab
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:48 PM
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10. I seem to remember something about "Coke Zero" being aimed at men.
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 09:49 PM by Kutjara
Apparently, men think of Diet Coke as a girl's drink and so Coca-Cola came up with a slightly different formulation and put it in a "macho" black can/bottle so that "real men" wouldn't feel like girls when they drank it. Or something like that. It's all too boringly stereotypical and low-grade misogynist to bother to look up.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:50 PM
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11. Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Read that on Ad Age a while back.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:51 PM
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12. Which one is made with Stevia (safer than artificial sweeteners)? nt
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 09:51 PM by valerief
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:48 PM
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17. Nothing from Pepsi or Coke yet.
As far as I know, there's only one Stevia flavored soda brand on the market yet....



http://www.zevia.com/

Haven't tried it yet myself, but it would have to taste better than anything with Donald Rumsfeld's Neuro Toxin Aspartame in it. Or high fructose corn poison, for that matter.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:57 PM
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18. Thanks! I put stevia in my tea and on my oatmeal. Taste great.
Horrid in coffee, though. Strange.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:33 AM
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19. Seems likely that once coke and pepsi
are done with Truvia and PureVia, they will be as unsafe and artificial as any other. Thats just a guess, though.
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Madrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:52 PM
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13. Pepsi ONE is made w/ splenda.
It's awesome. Unfortunately I can't find it around here in anything less than a 12 pack. I rarely drink soda (like a couple of times a year) so I'd prefer to buy one 20oz of Pepsi ONE on the occasion that I'd like one.

I have TONS of Mountain Dew in the house and a couple of 12 packs of a couple of other things that are a few years old at least ... from back when I had an 18 year old living here.

Anyone want a Mountain Dew? :D
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:31 PM
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16. I'd sooner drink diet
and thats saying something. I had that thought the other day. I am seriously craving sugared soda, enough so that I am tasting diet sodas. But even at this stage, I wouldn't touch the dew.
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:26 PM
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14. Shasta and Hanson's diet sodas are made with Splenda
And Coke has a Diet Coke with Splenda (look for the yellow box or yellow lable).
Diet Rite/Diet RC cola is also made with Splenda. Diet Rite has several flavors besides Cola and Cherry Cola, including Tangerine, Red Raspberry, Peach, Lemon Lime...
There is supposed to be a brand made with Stevia, "Zevia" - I guess you can get it at Whole Paycheck or someplace like that. I haven't seen it anywhere, not even Trader Joes...

Haele
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