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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 05:49 PM
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A NO-WIN situation: Little kids across the street poking neighbor's dog through fence with stick
1). Cruelty to animals

2). I say something to the kids, the parents will make my life hell for as long as I continue to live here

3). I say something to the neighbor, the neighbor tells the parents I told him, see #2 above

4). I say nothing, kids get bit, neighbor gets sued, dog gets put to sleep

This neighborhood SUCKS, the parents (for the most part) let their kids run about in their feral state.

Having gone through this in the past, I go in my house, close the door, and let life sort out the details without me. Can't afford to move. Don;t want to be homeless or constantly antagonized by neighbors who are ALREADY so far past the point of fucking annyoing that it makes me want to open up one of my major arteries.

"Things can only get better."

:eyes:
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 05:56 PM
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1. 5) Tell the SPCA or the cops
I once lived in a neighborhood that went to hell because a few turned into complete turds. The turds run off the decent people and before you know it, you are surrounded by turds.

I don't compromise in the neighborhood I live in now. If someone is fucking up, I tell the HOA or the cops. I just don't give a fuck if someone thinks I'm a snitch or a crotchety old man. I'll bend over backwards for my neighbors, but not if they don't have the common decency to keep their own shit to themselves and their kids in check.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 05:57 PM
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2. Shoot the kids.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:03 PM
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That's fucking brilliant
I wish I had thought about it.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:09 PM
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5. bad seeds..
kids who are cruel to animals are best DELETED permanently from the population.. they're just going to grow up into bigger, much stronger assholes.

(IN MY HUMBLE OPINION :D)
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:03 PM
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3. Just yell at the kids
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 06:03 PM by Capn Sunshine
1) you'll save the dogs
2) Parents might appeciate it.

I know if I saw kids doing anything wrong, I'd yell, "hey you, kid, cut that out!"
And have as a matter of fact.

If the parents get irate, my stock response is " screw you. Your kids need supervision"
Helps to be cleaning your gun on the porch
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:04 PM
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4. You don't even have to yell...
Just throw rocks at them.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:10 PM
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6. These are bad news neighbors
No such thing as a "brief exchange" with these motherfuckers.

You open the dialogue, it will stay open. These are the kind of people who key cars and do all kinds of shit after the sun goes down.

They have lots of friends who show up with Oakland Raiders bling and neck tattoos and walk across the street side-to-side like they shit their pants.

THEIR kids.

No thanks. I'm not yelling.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:01 PM
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8. This I can help with...
call the police. Tell them exactly what you saw, which kids and where they live. Hang up.

Hooray for the anonymous tip. Or if you have an organization like Crimestoppers or your local Humane Society, they will also take these tips and refer them to law enforcement while keeping your name out of it.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:11 PM
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12. That sounds reasonable to me...
...because those kids were lucky today. The dog was going CRAZY...I was in my office, with the doors and windows in the house closed, and heard the barking. I'm guessing these kids are kindergarten-aged. There was one boy and one girl and I saw the girl poke her hand, holding the stick, through the white picket fence several times and then jump back. I don't know what the hell was going on with the owner of the house...his truck was in the driveway, and the garage door was up, so he was home. If I heard it, he had to have heard it.

:patriot:
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:09 PM
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24. If the children are that young ...
... it probably hasn't occurred to them that what they are doing is dangerous. Rather than telling them: "Stop that.", tell them: "The dog will bite you if you tease him like that." Their parents are less likely to be upset with you if it looks like you are trying to help the kids.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:42 PM
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7. Make a video tape
Give it to the police, the dog owner, and the Humane society.

Get the dog owner to sue the parents.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:04 PM
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9. Is your garden hose stlil hooked up?
Blast the bunch of them.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:06 PM
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10. Bah! Water.
What you really need is some napalm. That'll teach those fuckers.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:13 PM
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13. Sure, but that'll burn the neighbor's fence
No need to harm the innocent yard ornamentation.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:11 PM
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11. Does the neighbor know their dog is getting poked with a stick?
OR are you the neighbor?

Either way, I would tell the kids to quit. Period. They can wah wah wah to their parents all they like, but some kids are scared they will get in trouble, so maybe the parents will never even know. But it needs to stop. The dog will get angry enough at some point (when it hurts bad enough) and try to bite through the fence. If that happens, you need to have some kind of proof that these kids were egging this dog on. Poor little dog. Some kids are so ignorant, that they don't know they are hurting an animal. I thought I was extra sweet to my kittens when I was 5 or 6 by trying to feed them with spoons. OR the time I put my baby duck on the trampoline trying to teach it to fly. Luckily my parents were there and stopped me before it got bad for the animal, but it doesn't sound like these kids are trying to do good for this animal (as I thought I was). Say something, so that this dog doesn't end up biting one of the kids or getting hurt.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:15 PM
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14. Please see my reply #12 above...
...I do not understand why the neighbor didn't come TEARING out of the house.

I want no direct contact with ANY of the people on this street. A year ago the feds came and busted the house across the street, which was operating as a meth lab. I have photos of the "evidence tent" they set up and guys walking around in HazMat suits.

You can't apply the rules of civilized society to the street I live on. These people use the rule book for 2-ply. And they are the ones raising the kids who poke dogs with sticks.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:18 PM
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15. Let Darwinism take its natural course.
Some people just should not reproduce ignorant little copies of themselves.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 08:03 PM
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16. Get the cops?
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 08:14 PM
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17. I could...ah...help you with this problem.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 08:15 PM
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18. Blow Dart gun
Just make sure you leave no fingerprints or evidence to link you in any way.
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:12 PM
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19. like Neil says....
good times are coming
i hear it everywhere i go

good times are coming
i hear it everywhere i go

good times are coming
but they sure coming slow
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:58 PM
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20. Good Grief. Don't get me started about my pet rottweiler-mix
and some of the children we encountered when I lived in the Mission District in SF, CA, in the mid-to-late-90s.

I raised him from a puppy, as attentively as though he were my kid. He was a very sweet dog, and well behaved, but I suppose he was a little scary looking, in a stereotypical way.

2 little boys had sticks and acted like they were going to battle my dog like gladiators or power rangers, as we walked down the street. Of course I wagged my finger at them and said "no". That happened more than one time, and with different boys. I imagined what kind of exposure could have caused such a reaction.
It was far more common for the Hispanic children in the neighborhood to cringe and move away from me and my dog, and occasionally the mother and kids crossed the street to get away from us.

Then there were the idiotic machismo males with pit bulls. One of them did nothing when his pit bull attacked my dog for no reason, though I screamed and slapped his dog during the attack. The asshole calmly walked away. There was another machismo idiot who suggested that his pit bull and my rottweiler mix should fight.

I have to assume there were pit-bull fights going on in the neighborhood.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 01:26 AM
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21. WTF
I'd tell those little fuckers to knock it off - and I don't care who their parents are or who says I told them that
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:21 AM
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22. Just realize that these people are chickenshit, and look for payback after dark
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 11:21 AM by Amerigo Vespucci
A cop actually told me that about a year ago, when I called for something else...I mentioned what a toilet of a neighborhood it was, and how I kept my distance from the neighbors, and he said "Yeah, they just wait for you to go to bed, and come back and slash your tires."

I have a 1-car garage...my car is never parked in the driveway or on the street.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:34 AM
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23. That means...
the cops are already aware that your neighbors are scummy people. Trust me to say that the anonymous tip will be thus be appreciated...it provides an opportunity for exigent circumstances to look into the possibility of other crimes.
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