I have a confession to make that might ruin my street creds here at DU

[LynneSin]

I just love Judith Krantz novels! The passion, the history, the evil stepbrothers, the women who live against what society dictates in Pre-WWI Paris, generations of a family whose lives span across the continent living such amazing lives. I've read them all a dozen time and now I'm collecting the set on Hardback and reading them again. Right now I'm in the middle of "Till We Meet Again".

What can I say - I'm only human!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

1. It's okay. I believe I have a Thomas Kincade piece in my house.

Plus I enjoyed a good dinner at the Olive Garden this past weekend, and don't regret it one bit.

We're all allowed one or two free passes.

[LynneSin]

2. Please tell me the Kinkade piece was a gift

You're too cool to actually buy it yourself.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

3. Yes it was.

But I'm a very gracious gift givee--if someone gives me something, I use it/display it. The only time I return a gift is if it is broken or doesn't fit.

[Dr. Strange]

18. Actually, I gave it to him.

It's the Kinkade picture with four women playing strip poker under a full moon.

[LynneSin]

19. Let me guess it was to thank him for the 4 dogs playing poker picture right

:eyes:

[Dr. Strange]

21. Don't knock my original Redlin Four Dogs Playing Poker.

[CreekDog]

23. He said that was the only painting he did not do for the money

:D

[Heidi]

4. I may have you beat.

Donald Roller Wilson is one of my favorite painters. http://www.donaldrollerwilson.com/gallery/

[LynneSin]

5. Well at least it's not Thomas Kinkade

:eyes:

[Heidi]

6. Kinkade actually is a technically accomplished painter.

He can draw and he can paint, but his use of color isn't to my taste (for example, I've never seen lavender snow), and his adherence to an illusion of perfect, small town, patriotic life kinda gags me. :scared:

[LynneSin]

7. But Kinkade doesn't really paint anymore

He has those paintings mass produced and then he adds his touch of "light" to the end to make them a Kinkade

[Heidi]

8. There was talk about this in the art community a few years ago.

What irked me at the time was that his "assistants" did most of the work and he signed them as his own originals.

[supernova]

11. I remember a Kinkaide "gallery"

in the mall in Chapel Hill years ago. This mall is filled with funky designer shops, a great foodie restaurant, a huge gourmet store and a couple of designer boutiques as well as what I think is the very last Roses in the country. How a Kinkaide store wound up in this place in Communist Hill, I'll never know.

But the funniest thing to me was that they would sometimes breathlessly advertise that one of Kinkaide's "artists" would be in the store to "personally" paint "light" on your very own "original" Kinkaide painting!

Imagine being so excited to get a few strokes of real live paint on your mass produced print!

Unbelievable.

[Heidi]

13. Ewwwwwwwwww.

What's unbelievable is that people don't know (or don't care about) the difference between an embellished print and an original painting. :(

[supernova]

14. That's what is so sad

and people were willing to pay a premium for the privilege! I remember the fee was something in the hundreds of dollars!

That org was making money hand over fist.

It made me sad because we have lots of artists around here who love to show off and sell their works. You could have a real painting from a real artist with passion and something to say instead of that phony dreck.

edit: My own cousin is a decent watercolorist

http://www.nanart.us/homesandgardenstour/artexhibit&sale.htm

[Heidi]

16. Your cousin is more than a "decent" watercolorist. He's a _fine_ watercolorist.

I believe watercolor is extremely difficult to master because the water has a mind of its own and while an adept watercolorist learns to coax the water and colors, there's a lot more to it than most people realize: characteristics of the paper (and these can be myriad), whether there's even a smidgeon of skin oil on the paper, humidity, quality of the chemical composition of the pigment and gum arabic binder, etc. Needless to say, I gave up on watercolor long ago for professional purposes and use it only in my sketchbooks.

Your cousin's work is lovely, and Kinkade's success is (in my opinion) a result of shrewd marketing, because there are jillion other artists who can do exactly the same thing (though I don't blame them for NOT doing it). :hi:

[merh]

22. Shrewd marketing explains Kincaid and a local "artist"

who makes way too much money on her prints, imho. (yes, prints)

http://natchezonline.com/

price list: http://www.natchezonline.com/pricelist.htm

thumbnails of her prints: http://www.natchezonline.com/bannisterworks/index.htm

There was one pastel she did early in her career that was lovely, then she stumbled upon her big eyed girl style and has sold hundred, if not thousands, of the prints. It was just the thing to have hanging on your wall down here, a print of one of her paintings.

[Heidi]

27. Remember those Margaret Keane paintings from the 60s?

:shudder:

[merh]

29. Yes!! That is exactly what Banister's paintings remind me of.

I'd go to a friend's home or some social function at the home of another and the host would be so excited that they got a new "Banister".

Matter of fact, I think one of the things my BIL was worried about saving during Katrina was the Banister he gave my sister.

:eyes:

http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/determinedafterstorm/Katrina/?action=view¤t=KatrinaWaterscomingintohouse.flv

[Heidi]

31. My gawd, that's heartbreaking to watch.

:hug: :hug:

[merh]

33. .

:hug: :hug:

[supernova]

34. I had a table lamp

when I was a kid with those things on it. It was a tall lamp, circular, that my mom left on as a night light. There were about 4 or 5 panels of these bug-eyed kids with pathetic looking faces.

I found them strangely sad and wondered why their lives must be so miserable. It did give me a life-long taste for the gothic, that lamp.

[Heidi]

35. Mark Ryden owes his career to Margaret Keane.

Those bug-eyed kids would have given me creepy dreams. But I wouldn't hang a Ryden in my bedroom either. :yoiks:

[cemaphonic]

40. It kinda filies in the face of our 19th century conception of Art...

but that sort of thing used to be pretty common. Rubens' studio had a sliding-scale fee structure for commissions where you not only paid for the size of the painting, but also for the amount of effort that Rubens would personally spend on your painting.

Chiluly doesn't blow glass any more due to injuries - he does designs which are then executed by his students and assistants. I've heard Philip Glass works much the same way these days too.

[XemaSab]

20. .

[LynneSin]

24. That is just wrong on so many levels of wrongness

:crazy:

[Heidi]

26. Pretty sure that's a satirical Banksy painting.

Banksy is Kinkade for hipsters. :hi:

Here's another Banksy:

[supernova]

36. LOL!

I like Banksy's better.

:D

[MineralMan]

17. Where the heck did you find a photo of my ex-wife?!?

:bounce:

[Fran Kubelik]

9. I bet you're not the only one here!

And there's nothing wrong with a good beach read!

[LynneSin]

10. Yeah but I'm not at the beach

:crazy:

[Fran Kubelik]

12. I guess I see that more as a category of book

Easy, compelling reads. No real difference from watching TV dramas, except you're engaging your brain more, right?

I'm a total music geek with a pretty deep knowledge base about highfalutin' categories of music, but I still LOVE a good booty-shaking pop song. Nothing wrong with liking what you like.

[applegrove]

15. I've been going through a mystery novel phase. Once every 5 years

I spend 6 months reading paperbacks rather than novels or non-fiction.

[taterguy]

25. What street cred did you have to ruin?

:hide:

[LynneSin]

28. Yeah, I know, after replying to a thread you started my rep was all shot to hell

:hide:

[Tikki]

30. I am a Jackie Susann devotee...

I've read and reread everything she wrote...

To me she was the epitome of glamour and brains...




Tikki

[LynneSin]

32. I love Love LOVE "Valley of the Dolls" and the "Love Machine"

In VOTD I keep hoping that this time Neely will get healthy and NOT steal Lyon from Anne but it just never happens. "The Love Machine" was the first Susann novel I ever read (took it from my grandmother) and that was just such great trashy fun. Robin could have had a great life if it wasn't for Judith. She was an uppity bee-yotch that should have been exposed in the end.

[Tikki]

37. Every time I read Valley I try to put it in current context and it...

certainly fits...even today.


Tikki

[LynneSin]

38. I keep wondering who would play the parts in a modern day VOTD

We already have a couple of Neely O'Hara's out there with Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan.

[Tikki]

39. Actually, Lindsay in the role of Neely might work out...

I'm not sure if I have seen Lindsay Lohan in an adult role...
but then Neely/adult..that was a work in progress.

Should they film another Valley of the Dolls?...I say YES...
Could be done if real care is taken to develop.


Tikki

[Symarip]

41. Aw Lynne , that's so not true

It was ruined ages ago.

[RiffRandell]

42. Hey, at least it's not Danielle Steele.

I read quite a few Judith Krantz novels. When I was a teenager, my Mom read them so I would pick them up, and remember watching Princess Daisy on a made for tv movie.

[enigmatic]

43. I read Clair Bee's "Chip Hilton" books

The originals, not the crappy new "Christian" ones that are out now. I'm reading this one at the moment:



I read Kafka and Erich Fromm for fun when I was 12, so I guess I'm going backwards in my reading material.