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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:09 PM
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I have some math questions for y'all
Lets see who can get them right first.

1-Joe bought a car priced at $18500. He made a 10% down payment and borrowed the rest of the money at 9% annual interest rate. He will pay the balance due in 5 years. How much interest will he pay?

2-One serving of cereal provides 5 grams of fiber. This is 21% of the daily value recommended for a 2000-calorie diet. How many grams of fiber are recommended daily for a person on a 2000-calorie diet?
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:11 PM
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1. I only taught as old as third grade, and they never learned this.
But I can add, subtract, multiple and divide with a skill like you've never seen! I even know the Nines trick!!!

:rofl:
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:14 PM
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2. ...
1. $4087.54

2. 23.8 grams
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:16 PM
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3. ...
1-no
2-yes
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:20 PM
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7. OH
$7492.50

I amortized it monthly the first time.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:20 PM
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8. You are right
:party:
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:17 PM
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4. answers
1- assuming you mean he will pay the balance Over the course of 5 years, rather than a lump sum after 5 years, with no payments in between, he borrowed $16650, his monthly payment should be 345.65. He will pay 4088.94 in interest over 5 years, for a total repayment of $20,739

2 23.81 grams
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:18 PM
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5. ...
1-no
2-yes
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:20 PM
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6. alternately
if you meant pay in a lump sum at the end, his interest should be 9422.20. There are other potential answers, based on how often and when payments might be made, and it also depends minutely on whether interest compounds daily, anually, monthly, etc.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:23 PM
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9. it is $7492.50
16650 times .09 times 5 =$7492.50
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:27 PM
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12. That doesn't take into account interest on the interest. n/t
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:30 PM
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13. that is what it says in the book
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:32 PM
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16. If you can find a lender that doesn't charge interest on unpaid interest good for you.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:34 PM
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17. I have and he lives in my GED math book
:D

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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:38 PM
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19. And
welcome to the education crisis/morgage foreclosure crisis/debt problem of the USA.

Sure.. Banking and money are easy to understand. Why cant those damn irresponsible borrowers figure out their own shit and pay their debts.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:35 PM
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18. actually, its 8968.09 done that way
16650*1.09=18148.50
18148.50*1.09=19781.86
3more = 25618.09, -16650=8968.09

Interest compounds. Or so say the lenders.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:39 PM
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20. And that's only if you compound annually.
Most lenders compound at least monthly and many compound daily.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 01:12 AM
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22. that was my first addendum
compounded monthly. I haven't run into any lately that did it daily, though I wouldn't want to put it past them.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:25 PM
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10.  
8968.086
25.25
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:26 PM
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11. ...
1-no
2-no
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:30 PM
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14. Upon further review you're right, 23.809523 appears to be the answer.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 11:32 PM
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15. yup
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 12:44 AM
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21. 1) Too much, 2) Not enough
Math is easy!

:)
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 01:14 AM
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23. 1) a lot 2) a lot n/t
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 01:37 AM
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24. The First Question Doesn't Specify How The Interest Is Compounded
Without that, the answer is undefined.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 02:09 AM
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27. ...
16650 times .09 times 5 =$7492.50

you don't do anything more. I think you are making it harder than it is.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 02:38 PM
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28. You Have To Know How Interest Is Compounded
If you take out a loan and the interest is compounded, monthly, semi-annually, annually, etc., then the answer is different.

You could use an Excel function which would give the future value of $16,650 at 9% interest compounded at whatever interval you want.


Also, looking at your example, it assumes that no additional payments are ever made over the 5 years, which would reduce the principal and adjust the interest payment. For example, what if the dude paid $16,650 in the second month of the contract. Then no interest is made.

Sorry to get all anal about this, but this test is not teaching you correctly about interest and finance.
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 01:43 AM
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25. WolframAlpha is your friend
http://www.wolframalpha.com/

1. Search "amortization with down payment"

2. no clue about doing this without paper.. I'm tired :P

Was fun thinking there for a minute, thanks. :)

:hi:
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 01:46 AM
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26. I'd have gone nuts trying to sleep..
I used

5/21 = x/100 =

500/21 = 23.809523809523809523809523809523809523809523809523809523809...

now I can sleep. G'night

:hug:
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