OK, Indianapolis or Cincinnati? If you had to relocate for a

[Flaxbee]

contract, which city would you choose? And why?

Any other place in-between worth checking out?

Never lived in the midwest, and both towns are choices for a project... curious about any info DU'ers can supply.

Thanks! :hi:

[gmoney]

1. They're both nice cities

I'm not as familiar with Indy, but Cinci has a lot to offer, and is pretty close to other cities in the Ohio. Of course, Indy is only 3 or 4 hours from Chicago, if you like that type of thing. Bloomington IN seems like a nice town, about 45 minutes down the road from Indy.

I don't think you can go wrong with either in general terms. I'd suggest looking into your personal interests to see which best suits you.

[Flaxbee]

5. Bloomington's in the wrong direction...

If you draw a line from Indianapolis to Cincinnati, I need to be at either end point or somewhere in between...

Thanks for the info, though. Met some people from Cincinnati on a plane the other day and they were an older (60s) couple, very nice and liberal.

[gmoney]

16. I realize that

just saying if you lived in or near Indy, Bloomington might be a cool place to hang out or see bands or whatnot.

Cinci has about the worst traffic evah... and it IS largely conservative (John Boehner and Mean Jean Schmidt are from there) and there's sexual repression if that matters to you.

[Flaxbee]

17. OK, thanks. If we're there (Indy), I'd like to know some

interesting places to visit.

Oh lord, Schmidt is from there? Oy! Boehner's no prize, but he's just a whore for power. Schmidt is, I think, truly nuts.

[Drunken Irishman]

2. Indianapolis.

Cincinnati is extremely conservative.

[Flaxbee]

6. And Indy is less so?

Indiana, for some reason, has always struck me as more conservative than Ohio. But what the heck to I know, having never lived there? :shrug:

Thanks for the input!

[WildEyedLiberal]

18. The state, in general, is

But that's because a lot of rural Indiana is scary, scary conservative - deep south levels of conservative. Indy is a purple-blue city, though, and is quite clean and nice. Indiana is slowly becoming more moderate, but a lot of the southern rural parts of the state are still solid GOP. Ohio is largely more blue because of all the union steel and factory towns.

[Brigid]

36. I think you'd like Indy.

It's a blue dot in a sea of blue (Marion County was the only one to go for John Kerry in 2004). There is a lot to do there. I'm thinking of moving back myself. :)

[704wipes]

40. Actually southern Indiana by the O River is pretty democratic

For some odd reason the second ring of counties outside of Indy and also the 3rd ring north are probably the most conservative. Counties in the south along the Wabash River trend to be more democratic too. What is it about the rivers?

[Drunken Irishman]

22. The city? Probably. The state of Indiana is probably more conservative than Ohio, tho.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

3. Cincinnati -

It's a surprisingly sophisticated city, with some great ethnic neighborhoods and some very fine restaurants.

[Flaxbee]

9. Cincinnati, while it seems to be conservative, also

seems to be pretty diverse. And who can forget the Maplethorpe/Cincinnati Museum dust up? Someone there at least was trying to be progressive!

[Tangerine LaBamba]

13. My experience in SW Ohio

consists mostly of my time at Antioch and Yellow Springs - which was a stop on the Underground Railroad, and as far left a place as you could hope to find. Made Berkeley look rightwing.

But, the part of Cincinnati that I know best is the Uptown neighborhood, where the University of Cincinnati is located. It's really great, and currently undergoing a whole lot of development. Getting spiffier and spiffier. It's where the Zoo and Botanical Gardens are located, if I recall correctly, and just a very nice place to live..............

[appal_jack]

27. Woot! Antioch!

Howdy from a fellow Antioch Alum!

When were you there?

1989 - 1993 for me.

-app

[Tangerine LaBamba]

28. Another Antiochian ............

Well, small world!

I was there a long time ago, when the satellite campuses were just on the drawing board. I wish they'd left them there. That's what contributed to the school's demise, which makes me so sad.

I was there 1969-1970. Two years. Skipped graduation in favor of a picnic with my husband in Glen Helen.

We were married in our faculty-owned house at 119 W. Davis Street. Sound familiar?

Com's? Trail Tavern? They still there, do you know?

It was a great, great school.....................

[appal_jack]

42. The satellite campuses were indeed a dreadful mistake

I think that Trails Tavern was still open in the late 80's/early 90's (and probably still is), but I was under-21 for most of my time at Antioch, and dirt-poor the whole time. I spent 1993-1994 putting together the '94 Environmental Field Program, which was a great job (we traveled the Mississippi River corridor), but it paid only $4000 for 12 months! (plus a dorm room in Birch that overlooked the Glen, and a 7-meals per week card to the Caf. I was in heaven, and felt incredibly 'rich' but still could afford to only party on campus).

I don't recall a place called Com's: what was it?

I rambled all over the Glen during my time there, and studied primarily in that glorious old brick building that was still called the 'Science Institute' when I arrived, plus the organic garden behind it. I loved all the science prof's, who were both technically proficient, yet more than willing to engage in questioning, challenging, and alternative perspectives.

Antioch was a great school, and I very much hope that the independent college revival efforts take off. I plan to send some $$ soon, and any progressive looking for allies in the Cinci-area (and across America, as we Antiochians like to wander) would do well to consider a donation to:

http://www.antiochians.org/

-app

[Flaxbee]

33. hi, Tangerine LaBamba...

thanks very much for the info. Really intrigues (and encourages!) me to hear some of Cincinnati's surrounding areas are very liberal.

I'll check out Uptown, appreciate it!

[Flaxbee]

34. dupe

edited

[madinmaryland]

4. Six or one half dozen...

I grew up near Lima, Oh and have relatives in eastern indiana.

It's different than the east coast.

:hi:

[Flaxbee]

10. heya mad, how're you doing?

Yup, I'm sure it'll be different! We might not have to be that close to the project, but it'd be easier, no doubt.

Give Sonia a scritchy-scratch for me. :)

[LeftyMom]

14. Where near Lima, if you don't mind my asking?

The kid has family in Lima and Bluffton, so I know the neighborhood, so to speak. ;)

[madinmaryland]

29. I grew up in Ada.

:hi:

[madmom]

32. That's funny, I grew up in Maryland, now live not far from Lima..

where abouts in Maryland, if I may be so bold.

[madinmaryland]

38. Columbia. Between dc and balmer.

[LostInAnomie]

7. Indy is a pretty nice city.

It's got quite a few things to do, and it's fairly easy to navigate. Lots of nice suburbs too, if you don't have to live in the city.

[Flaxbee]

11. nope, wouldn't have to live in the city...

would want to live on the east side of the city, though ... any 'burbs there you can recommend?

[LostInAnomie]

15. Beech Grove is pretty nice.

I had a friend that grew up in Fairland (a little bit longer of a commute) that said it was really nice too.

[Flaxbee]

19. Both of those places would work well...

we wouldn't be commuting during rush hour(s), in fact, we'd often be going in the other direction. Thanks for the info!

:hi:

[OmahaBlueDog]

8. Good cases for both, but I pick Indy because it has lower housing prices

I've known people who have lived in and loved both towns.

[Flaxbee]

12. OK, good to know. Maybe we'll just have to

spend a few days in both. For some reason my husband still thinks Indy still has a really, really industrial downtown area, kind of a wasteland of factories. :shrug: I've never been there, or Cincinnati, so I have no idea....

[WildEyedLiberal]

20. Nah, downtown Indy isn't like that at all

It might've been a long time ago, but now it's pretty clean and cosmopolitan looking. I haven't done a ton of stuff in Indy - I've been to a Colts game and I knocked on doors there for Obama. We got sent by the campaign to some subdivision, which was a really nice area - very racially diverse, nice homes, friendly people. Sorry, I can't recall the neighborhood.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

21. Cincy

got an Ex in Indy. No need to get too close.

[blueknight]

23. the best thing about cincy is

its right across the river from northern kentucky. n.ky has a lot going on, good schools, constant developing. more affordable homes then in cincy, and WAY less crime

[Tuesday Afternoon]

24. I think a lot of people commute from northern Kentucky

to work in Cincy..........

[LaurenG]

25. Come to Cincinnati

Not that Indianapolis isn't a good choice, Cincinnati is only 100 miles from Indianapolis anyway.

[AwakeAtLast]

26. I live near Indianapolis

If you want to live on the eastside, I recommend the northeastside. For some reason, the near east side of Indy is having some major crime problems that are beginning to extend to the outer eastside.

To be honest, I think there are more things to do in Cincinnati, but it's also bigger. Cost of living here is as good as you'll find.

If you have any specific questions, you can always shoot me a PM!

:hi:

[Flaxbee]

30. thanks Awake! Will know more about options, timing, etc.

in a few weeks; I'll PM you when we're getting closer to needing to make a decision.

:hi:

[704wipes]

39. If u choose Indy... Broad Ripple is near north and a little east

and boyhood home of David Letterman, and girlhood home of Jane Pauley-- except she did go to high school on the east side. Butler-Tarkington area still has some nice/affordable areas and was boyhood home of Kurt Vonnegut, and not that hard/far to get to the east side from there either.

Both Broad Ripple and Butler Tarkington have access to nice walking paths, Butler University, the Art Museum. North of Broad Ripple is nice too with Williams Creek (pricey) and Nora.

[av8rdave]

31. As layover cities go, I like them both

I would be partial to Cincy because you get both an NFL team* and a MLB team. You also get some great college ball at UC. There are some cool areas near the river, and some great neighborhoods (Mt Adams is awesome).

*OK, OK, they're AFC, but still...

[KamaAina]

35. Cincy

river towns have a history (I'm in one right now, Sacramento), plus I'm from Baltimore originally, so Indian-no-place would kind of be out of the question because of the Dolts. :grr:

[Moondog]

37. Cincinnati.

More to do. Costs more, marginally, but it's worth it.

[rurallib]

41. Used to spend a lot of time in Cincy on business

I wouldn't move there if you gave me a free house. I used to tell people it is the biggest small town in the world. Maybe it has changed in 10 years though.
My daughter lives in Indy and it is pretty nice.