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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:38 PM
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The more and more I use my Macs...
the more I owe a BIG apology for my daft ignorance and not thinking of other facets and possibilities about this platform.

* I used to lament ("less power for more money"). Well, Windows requires more power and we're all conditioned to want that more power. OS X doesn't need the power, and has a lot of 3D cutesie animations Vista has too. Except a "slow" Mac feels faster than a higher powered Vista computer.

* Lower power also translates to electricity savings.

* "OS X is just open source". No, it isn't. There are copyrighted components in OS X, Apple has given back to the open source community, and unlike open source I can find drivers for ALL my hardware.

* Adobe wasn't going to make a 64-bit version of their apps. (My ignorance; OS X isn't fully 64-bit until the new version, 10.6, comes out in June.)

* "Uses the same hardware". Uses the same CPU and northbridge chipset. The quality of the innards seems to be better, the aluminum case in the MacBook series dissipates heat far more effectively, and in the 24" iMacs the screen alone is worth $900 of the total cost. Those standaalone 24" PC monitors use inferior technology, which results in more faded looking colors and lacking shadow detail.

I do like Vista's 64-bit features and multimedia (not to mention it, unlike XP 64-bit, is stable), but it seems one has to throw more money and hardware into it than one does for a Mac.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:22 PM
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1. Have you noticed how Microsoft copied EVERYTHING from Macs???
Well, everything cool, or they TRIED to.

Going back as far as the late 1980s and early 1990s, our office had macs and pcs.

Lisa IIC's had icons, PC's had alpha numeric DOS interface.

Then comes Windows, just a copycat of the Mac interface.

Various and sundry other copy-cattings include their sorry version of Widgets.

And behind all the copycat flash, PCs are still nothing but trouble with adware, spyware, virus prone, slow motherfuckers.

:rant:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:37 AM
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4. They did copy a lot, oh yeah...
While no platform is immune from viruses - though there are far fewer for the Mac right now.

And Windows sure is slow, that is incontrovertible. :) I don't see that trend improving - MS is known for adding new features and they don't work, and shirking responsibility for repairs... not to mention the registry...

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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 11:28 AM
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8. To be fair, both Windows and Mac copied the Alto's interface
Edited on Thu May-07-09 11:28 AM by no name no slogan
The Xerox Alto workstation was the first "personal" computer to use windowing and a WYSIWYG environment. Jobs copied the Alto features after seeing it during a visit to the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) in 1979. However, Apple did it in a much more elegant and useful manner than MS did, as you can tell if you compare a Windows 1.0 computer with a Mac from the same era (late 80s).

ETA: Link to the Alto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Alto
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:54 PM
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9. I'm cool with that. Nothing new under the sun.
Microsoft's problem is that they didn't start from scratch with their OS.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:58 PM
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12. I'm glad Apple re-did theirs from scratch (OS X).
It contains some open source (FreeBSD) but Apple has returned to the community and, more to the point, I had used OS 8 and 9 back in the day and it - like Win9x - was crashprone indeed.

OS X has been utterly delightful, and smoother and more stable than any Linux or BSD distro and by a long shot. And hardware compatibility that *nix will never likely ever get too. Integration doesn't mean a blind copy either, as I have looked a little under the hood... not much, I don't really *need* to do that in the first place... unlike *nix or Winbloat...

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:03 PM
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14. Slicker than snot, OSX 10.5 is.
I had it on my Air and when I went back to my MacBook as my daily unit I had to go out and buy and load Leopard, well worth it.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:09 PM
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15. I am so looking forward to Snow Leopard (10.6)
* faster
* fully 64-bit
* lesser RAM requirements (:wow:)

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:16 PM
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16. Wait til you see SaberTooth!!!
:rofl:

I made that up... :P
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:17 PM
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17. I'd rather see HorseMan...
I made that up too, but I know there are men of that endowment out there somewhere...

:spray:
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:22 PM
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18. Not here.
That's for certain! :P
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:56 PM
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10. I wanted to say that... while true, didn't Apple do their copying the look, but not the code?
I recall MS was claimed to have nicked Mac OS code at the time...

Windows 1.0 -- go to youtube and type in "Ballmer windows 1" - he's as nutty as the shamwow guy...
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:41 PM
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2. I had a lot of the same misgivings before I switched-- esp. with processor power
The components of Macs are optimized to work well together-- something that's very hard to do with the myriad hardware combinations of your average PC. The OS is tuned to work with the hardware to an extent that's impossible with Windows.

And if you really want to, you can always run Windows with Parallels or other such third party apps-- but once you're running OSX, you have no desire to run Windows again.

I sceptically made the switch in 2006 (with a low-end MacBook, which didn't cost much more than an equivalent WinXP laptop), but I would never buy another PC for personal use. I can do everything I need to on the Mac, and with less worries of lock-ups, blue screens and other minor catastrophes that seem to plague my old Windows boxen.

Glad to hear you're enjoying your Macs-- you'll come to love them more and more every day. I guarantee it! :thumbsup:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:41 AM
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6. Seconded.
Windows has to accommodate every hardware combination. For stability, it can be done (esp. Vista 64-bit despite its bloat), but for raw performance, like Flight Simulator 10 (that was a gross misadvertisement, bait'n'switch), you can never throw enough hardware at it. :(

My switch was different; I prefer Adobe's apps and their Mac support helped switch me over. They have a symbiosis worthy of supporting. (the kiddie apps for Windows can work, but MacOS runs faster to begin with... even better than Ubuntu.)

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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:44 PM
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3. Daft is a great word
I don't use it enough. Once in a letter to an ex, 9 years ago.

Thanks for the reminder. :)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:38 AM
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5. Anytime!
:D

:thumbsup:

Another word I love using is "mewl". :evilgrin:
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:09 AM
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7. There's nothing worse than a convert.
:rofl: Welcome to the Mac. It just gets better.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:56 PM
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11. Your past blasphemy against the Mac is forgiven
:-)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:00 PM
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