In your opinion, what is the Best Live Rock Album?

[XNASA]

I was listening to "Live at Budokan" on the way to work this morning and it prompted my curiousity in asking.

[grannylib]

1. Little Feat Live at the Fox Theatre is my personal fave

[meegbear]

2. You missed 'Frampton Comes Alive'

also, not to split hairs (yes I am actually), is 'Cheap Trick at Budakon' the EP or the complete concert? I have the complete concert on 2 CDs and need to know before I vote.

[XNASA]

6. This poll is about Rock albums.

The Easy-Listening MOR stuff might appear in another poll.

[meegbear]

15. Well La-de-da

Thank you Lemmy.

[CanuckAmok]

31. LOL!

n/t

[Beaker]

51. then why is cheap trick included?

shouldn't they be in the pussy-ass bubblegum poll?

[XNASA]

53. Now, now......

I could produce a short list as to why they are a pussy-ass bubblegum band.

And I could give you a long list of reasons why CT is not a pussy-ass bubblegum band.

Here's reason #1

[Beaker]

56. yup.

they look like a couple of pussies from a pussy-ass hair band...

and they are!

[ElementaryPenguin]

3. 'Who Live at Leeds" - then "Get Yer Yas Yas Out" (Stones)

Have both in my car!

[BurtWorm]

4. For sentimental reasons, The Mothers live at Fillmore East.

Mud sh-sh Shark.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

5. right now

my favorite is Tool live at Madison Square Garden

[XNASA]

7. Good Choice

Tally one for Tool.

[FDRrocks]

8. Pulse by Floyd

and/or Sadinista by The Clash.

[Fenris]

12. "Sandanista" isn't a live album

[XNASA]

14. So I'm to assume that you voted "Drug Casualty" then?

[phillybri]

9. KISS: Alive

How did you miss this???

[XNASA]

16. Another good choice.

But honestly, I've never purchased a single item of KISS product in my life.

So I guess that's why I missed them.

[Jack_Dawson]

105. Kiss: Alive Rocks!!!

That was my first live album. Detroit Rock City!

Seriously that album rox. You need to repost and include it. :toast:

[Bluzmann57]

10. Allman Brothers "Live at Fillmore East"

Can't help it, I like the Allman Bros. band. In reality, there do not seem to be an awful lot of great live albums out there.

[XNASA]

18. There's a band that straddles the line between....

Faux Blues and Drug Casualty, tough decision.

I do like Duane a lot. He was a great player. But the band jumped the shark with his departure from this world.

[woofless]

57. Second that.

I still listen to that album a lot. Have sorely missed Duane Allman for more than 30 years now. I voted for the WHO.

[maveric]

97. BINGO!!!! My favorite!

A lot of great blues rich tunes on that one. I saw them live in 74 (sans Duane, sadly), and they rocked the old Boston Garden to the ground.

[Fenris]

11. Neil Young "Live Rust"

I've said that many times on this board before. "Powderfinger," "Cortes...," "Sedan Delivery," and "The Loner" blow all other live records to hell in my humble opinion. But then again, what do I know? What do any of us know?

[XNASA]

19. Great Choice.

Should've made the poll. Sorry.

[legin]

83. Just put it on my 'to buy' list thnx. nt

[CanuckAmok]

13. James Chance/Contortions Live aus Baines Douches 1980

Next, Cheap Trick Live at Budokan

[XNASA]

21. Interesting factoid: Mrs. XNASA used to date James Chance's...

...little brother, David Sigfried (sp?) when she attended Southern Illinois University. So I have only 3 degrees of separation from sax icon James Chance.

[CanuckAmok]

29. wow, COOL!

Does Mrs. XNASA know what happened to him? Where is he now?

[XNASA]

33. I certainly hope not.

If she's still in contact with him, she will have a lot of 'splainin' to do.

[Whitacre D_WI]

17. Of those?

Kick out the jams, motherfuckers.

[XNASA]

25. You got that right.

[Whitacre D_WI]

34. That picture is from Saginaw, not the Grande Ballroom.

:)

[WilliamPitt]

20. Allman Brothers, Live at the Fillmore East

[XNASA]

28. See #18.

[muchacho]

22. Rush

All The Worlds A Stage

[XNASA]

30. Sorry. I didn't know.

I give you an FZ album to choose, and you select "Rush"?

Wow.

[muchacho]

45. good is good....

baby.

[Westegg]

23. Led Zep/How the West Was Won

[XNASA]

32. Not a bad choice either....

But we must never allow LZ to live down "The Song Remains the Same."

They must be punished for that.

[Fenris]

37. OOOH OOOH LOOK AT ME!

I CAN PLAY GUITAR WITH A VIOLIN BOW!

[Westegg]

48. Page is God...

...And okay, so maybe some of the bowing during "Dazed and Confused" is a little repetetive over the years. But if you listen to Page live, particularly during Zep's '73 European tour, you will understand his genius, and his unique passion.

[Whitacre D_WI]

85. He stole the bowed guitar thing from the Creation.

Well, he did. That's well-established.

Don't get me wrong, Page was a better player than that guy from the Creation (which may be part of the reason I remember his name, whereas the other guy...), but that bow thing was a total rip-off.

[Westegg]

44. Yeah, "Song Remains..." was a major mistake...

..And I say that as a die-hard Zep fan. The best thing I can say about the album is that, unlike the movie version, you don't have to watch Plant outfitted like some hippie Viking, piloting his boat to the shores of Sword-and-Scorcerer Land and engaging in hand-to-hand combat with a couple of stoned roadies for the "honor" of some heavily made-up, totally out of place-and-time '70s groupie with feathered hair...

As the late, great Creem magazine said of the film's "fantasy sequences" in its orginal 1976 review, "I'll bet what Plant REALLY fanatizes about is wrestling Paul Rodgers in a bathtub full of baked beans."

24. anybody heard of Jimi Hendrix?

Geez
:mad:

Band of Gypsies

live at Woodstock

[XNASA]

26. File under "Dead Guy"

47. file these under dead guy then too

Who -- Keith Moon
MC5 -- Fred "Sonic" Smith, Rob Tyner
Fillmore East, June 1971 -- Frank Zappa, John Lennon (he played during the encore)
Joy Division -- Ian Curtis
Fillmore East -- Duane Allman, Berry Oakley
How the West was Won -- Bonham
From Here to Eternity -- Joe Strummer

[XNASA]

58. The only dead guy/drug casualties you list are.....

Moon - Unfortunate. He was trying to cure his alcoholism and screwed up. Still, it would be difficult to compile the list without Live at Leeds.

And Bonham - Again.....drank himself to death. But I didn't list any LZ choices.

Curtis committed suicide, but the others died of causes out of their control. Perhaps not Oakley, but I didn't list the Allmans as a choice either.

59. All for play, sort of

Didn't realize you meant dead guys Because of drugs. So I just went with dead guys. And whatever the reason for their death, it's silly to exclude them from greatest live album because of the method of their death, doesn't have anything to do with the music. What's the poll about? music or "morality"?

What next, exclude Charlie Parker from the ranks of sax players because of his method of death?

Even rock and roll polls turn into flames? (my fault, I suppose)
Isn't there some dispute about whether Hendrix died of a drug overdose, anyhow?
Some think Fred Smith drank himself to death over many years.
Oakley might have committed suicide, there's some question since he wrecked his motorcycle so close to where Duane did almost exactly a year later.

[XNASA]

60. I'll come clean....

My reason for even listing a "dead guy/drug casualty" is to have a category for Hendryx to fit in. I've been playing guitar for 35 years now, I could never understand why so many feel that JH is a guitar god.

I think he's vastly overated, especially as a song writer. He knew a couple of licks well, but all in all his playing seems very lazy to me. And personality-wise, the guy was a foppish misogynist.

But hey, that's just me.

62. Aha, the truth revealed!!

matters of taste are an entirely different matter and impossible to argue with, therefore completely legitimate.

edit--- now someone might flame you for that opinion, though. Buddy Guy or Stevie Ray Vaughan or Jeff Beck if they were on this board come to mind.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

82. Respectfully Disagree

I'm a jazz player and have played for 37 years now, with the likes of Paul Kreibich, Chad Wackerman, Louie Bellson, Shelley Mann, and many others through the years on the West Coast. But Hendrix was my first big influence and remains for me the most influential guitarist in modern rock. No one played like Hendrix before him, but millions have copied him ever since. I would suggest you listen to some of his live albums, like "Hendrix In The West", a French produced album that used to be available here in the U.S. Hendrix didn't write top 40 "tunes". He wrote atmospheres and colors, pioneering a very exotic ambiance that he lived. He was a true artist, not just someone seeking commercial success. As far as being over-rated, I don't know who you would compare him to in saying that. He was to rock what Joe Pass was to jazz, a complete virtuoso. I saw him three times in concert and will never forget his playing. As far as the "foppish mysogynist", I don't know where you're coming from. Hendrix was supposedly very shy in private and his ex-girlfriends had nothing but good things to say about him in the various documentaries I have seen on his life.

[livetohike]

127. Well stated!

<He wrote atmospheres and colors, pioneering a very exotic ambiance that he lived.>

He had more talent in his little fingernail than anyone who has played electric guitar since, IMO. Many have tried, most have failed.

Actually, I think it was his lyrics that I first fell in love with. I think "Pali Gap" is one of the best instrumentals ever made.

I wish I hadn't loaned my copy of Hendrix in the West to someone. I never got it back. However, I met his second cousin in L.A. years ago and he gave me a bootleg tape of various live performances and I think that is my favorite "live album".

[DS1]

27. Decade of Aggression - Slayer

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[XNASA]

35. Excellent.

And duly noted.

[Wickerman]

36. Lou Reed - Take No Prisoners

snicker, giggle, grin.

[XNASA]

41. See. Now I might've said "Rock N' Roll Animal"....

Is that what you're snickering about?

[Wickerman]

50. No,

the snicker was because it was a fairly lousy live LP. Entertaining as hell, if you like a cantankerous genius on speed, but not a great live LP. Might be one of my favorites, but probably because its cool in a car wreck kind of way - you can't help but keep watching it. Probably the inspiration for his forgettable LP entitled, "Growing Up in Public".

[mitchum]

63. It's one of my favorites for the same perverse reasons...

"C'mon, you know the riff"
"Little Joe was a fuckin'idiot, man"
"I sing when you shut up"
"Fuck Radio Ethiopia, man. I'm Radio Brooklyn"
and so many more...

[BootinUp]

38. Budokan kicked

ass. To be truthful I am not familiar with the others.

[XNASA]

43. What else do you need to know?

If you love 'Live at Budokan', then everything else is moot.

[Doctor_J]

39. Oh, come on

No one has yet mentioned The Last Waltz. Either I am really old, you're all really young, or you need to hear this album.

BTW, if you like John Stewart or folk rock in general, The Phoenix Concerts is now available on CD - 60 min of Americana for $15. I consider this a seminal album of the genre.

[XNASA]

42. While not a fan of the Band....I cannot deny that they were seminal.

I should've made it clear, that I'm asking about live 'Rock' albums. As in "Those guys rock my face off!!!"

You know. That kinda thing.

[Doctor_J]

46. Yes, I forgot to add that option

, or they're not really rock.

BTW, I don't know if The Band were seminal, but that concert sure was. Pick up "This Wheel's On Fire" by Levon Helm next time you need something to read. A really interesting bio...

[bif]

40. MC5--"Kick Out the Jams"!

The energy just doesn't get any higher than on this one!

[LynneSin]

49. The Song Remains the Same - Led Zeppelin

Never question what is genius!

[underpants]

52. Oasis's Familiar to Millions is pretty good too

I picked Cheap Trick just because I loved it and played it to death when I was about 10.

I know a lot of people hate Oasis but frankly I think we need some pompous rockstars. It starts out with Neil saying, "Hello Manchester!!".........in Wembley Arena and the version of "Don't look back in anger" will raise the hair on the back of your neck. ### thousand people singing at the same time, you can't even here Gallagher until the last chorus.

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1140931&cart=180173005&style=music

[ZoCrowes]

102. Holy crap another Oasis fan

I am in shock

[underpants]

110. A co-worker turned me onto them

I knew of them but I started listening to them more just a year or so ago. I do think they rip off the Beatles but if you are going to rip off a band.......

[Feanorcurufinwe]

54. Phish - Junta

it is live, isn't it? I could be wrong

[Drifter]

55. Glad to see Zappa on your list ...

Most of Zappas albums are built from concert "footage".

Cheers
Drifter

[jmowreader]

61. The best live album title...

John Valby's "Concerto for Piano, Voice and 566 Screaming Assholes."

The best live album for the music? Live at Leeds.

[Whitacre D_WI]

65. I HAVE that album!

It's HORRIBLE!

But yeah, I just bought it for the title.

[jmowreader]

95. When Valby got winger on us the quality of his stuff went way down

He always did have a little bit of patriotic stuff on his albums, but ever since Bill Clinton was elected, half his show is stuff freepers would love--New President, the Who Gives a Fuck? lines about Clinton, the Lewinsky shit.

He also got into dirty ballads. Dirty ballads suck--compare YMCA or Fuckin' USA to The Rose to see what I mean.

[mitchum]

64. "Live at The Button" Charlie Pickett and The Eggs

try and find it...you won't be disappointed

[LuCifer]

66. QUEEN! "Live Killers!"

Oh jesus man, I think my speakers are STILL blown from it! CLASSIC!

And thank you for listing JOY DIVISION, what a phenominal band, sad that Ian Curtis did himself in...man, like Rozz Williams wasn't bad enough er, wait, that came first, aw forget it!

Lu

[XNASA]

69. I haven't heard that one in years....

But I'm a big Brian May fan.

Yeah, I had tickets to see Joy Division on what was to be their first US Tour....and we know what happened. That was a real drag.

[tigerbeat]

67. "stop making sense" - talking heads nt

[XNASA]

70. I almost included SMS.

Great choice. Great album. Even better movie.

[Westegg]

78. Ah yes, a great one...

...I saw Talking Heads three times during that tour. The movie, and the recently re-released (and much longer) live album capture the greatness of that Heads era. Play that funky music white boys (and girl)!

[SEAburb]

68. Johnny Winter And "Live"

High energy performance with Rick Derringer backing up Johnny.

[southpaw]

71. Rush... Exit, Stage Left

Alex Lifeson's guitar solo on "A Passage To Bangkok" is worth the price of the CD.

[muchacho]

111. Rush in Rio

The latest live outing for the Canadian trio (5 now!) from Rio De Janeiro is pretty impressive as well.

The DVD is well worth having.

[cinci]

72. Foghat Live

kicksass

[XNASA]

73. Foghat Rocks!!

I guess. I don't know. I don't think I've heard a Foghat song in about 25 years.

[Whitacre D_WI]

86. There is a 10-minute version of "Slow Ride" on that album...

...that is truly wonderful.

I'm serious. I know, some people here may think I'm one of those "indie-rock" guys (in truth, most indie rock, just like most classic rock, and most jazz, and most classical, and most EVERYTHING sucks -- becuase true genius is a rare commodity), but "Foghat Live" is truly a great album.

Even if you just get it for "Slow Ride" and "Fool for the City," you won't be disappointed.

[tigereye]

87. now now not everything sucks

don't start that again

I admit I like Slow Ride too. I saw one of those scary 70's compilation commercials, and acutally kept saying to myself... hmmm, that one wasn't so bad, and on and on.

Other examples of scary 70's stuff that seemed to hold up - Radar Love and Godzilla. I love Godzilla. Spent the night in the college parking lot in winter! ( too late to get back in the dorm) because I wanted to hear Godzilla. Yes, I had no sense and got to see Black Sabbath and some other metal god ( real metal not the current stuff) whose name I can't remember.

[Whitacre D_WI]

88. BOC rules!

Oh, shit, I forgot something to add to this thread! See below.

[ihaveaquestion]

74. Woodstock - it's got everything! n/t

[arewethereyet]

96. I'd have to agree

[GumboYaYa]

75. Oysterhead Live at the Saenger is a recent fave of mine.

The album is awesome. I was at the show, so it is doubly good to me.

Oysterhead is Stewart Copeland, Trey Anastasio, and Les Claypool. They don't tour much, but when they do it is worth going well out of your way to see. These guys are simply phenomenal together.

[Red_Storm]

76. Live @ Fillmore - Jimi Hendrix

[PittPoliSci]

77. RAMONES - Loco Live

Fantastic, fast, and amazing energy capture the spirit of this album. It is just good fun.

[buddhamama]

79. from your list i chose MC5

Kick Out the Jams Motherfuckers!

it's hard to choose one though,
cause it depends a lot on venue
and whether or not the band was on.

[rucky]

80. Iwantitiwantitiwantitiwantit

[XNASA]

81. 'Said you caaaaaan't have it.'

[MaineDem]

84. I'm partial to Moody Blues Live at Red Rocks

I love that band.

[Whitacre D_WI]

89. Rainbow: On Stage

Fuckin' BRILLIANT!

[tigereye]

91. Richie Blackmore that's who it was!!!!!

[Whitacre D_WI]

92. Damn straight, sister!

Deep Purple was okay. I wasn't a big fan of MOST of Rainbow's stuff. Don't really like Dio (so sue me, "Holy Diver" fans). Elf kicked ass, and Ronnie was great with Sabbath, but let's not stray too far from topic:

That brief period in the seventies (only 2 studio albums, methinks) when Blackmore and Dio were TOGETHER was a time of serious rockin'!

[Zomby Woof]

90. One More From The Road

Produced by the immortal Tom Dowd, who also produced the Allmans' 'Fillmore East'. This 1976 landmark album by Lynyrd Skynyrd captured what liner notes writer Cameron Crowe ("Almost Famous" fame) said was "blistering hot" music. Ronnie sang barefoot on stage for a reason.

The 25th anniversary edition by MCA is worth every extra bonus track, played in the order of the full set list, and including Ronnie's thumbs-up to Jimmy Carter, whom they played campaign benefit concerts for that year. "Mr. Carter's got the answer!" punctuates 'Sweet Home Alabama' quite nicely. Also noteworthy is that this was Steve Gaines's debut as guitarist with the group.

[tsakshaug]

108. I was going to mention this one

It took awhile to get mentioned. Go to about any concert and someone will yell out "FREEBIRD!"

[central scrutinizer]

93. Mothers of Invention - Live at Fillmore East

didn't get much radio play

[flamingyouth]

94. Live At Leeds

:thumbsup:

[Character Assassin]

98. These posts are always so truncated: ZZ top and Warren Zevon

There are no exceptions.

Accept no substitutes.

"Fandango" (which has been discussed ad nauseum here) and "Stand in the Fire", which I promise you almost no one here has heard.

Both are revelatory, unique, and better than anything here already mentioned.

If you could choose only one, get Zevon's.

[Zomby Woof]

101. I can vouch for the Zevon

I taped a beat-up copy I used to borrow all the time from a local library back in Virginia Beach - this was in the mid-80's, and it was already out-of-print - a grave injustice.


A track listing for the curious:

Stand in the Fire
Jeannie Needs a Shooter
Excitable Boy
Mohammed's Radio
Werewolves of London
Lawyers, Guns and Money
The Sin
Poor, Poor Pitiful Me
I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
Bo Diddley's a Gunslinger/Bo Diddley

[Character Assassin]

106. We'ved talked before about this. There is no second choice.

I'm glad, after all this, you remember.

Good call.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

99. Kinda hokey but always partial to Frampton Comes Alive

[ZoCrowes]

100. Off the top of my head

Bob Dylan and the Band-Before The Flood
Allman Bros-Live at the Filmore
Free Live
Rolling Stones-Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out or Ladies and Gentleman
Oasis-Familiar To Millions
Who-Live At Leeds
Beatles-Three Nights At A Judo Arena (boot)
Jimi Hendrix-Band of Gypsys
Spearhead-Songs From The Porch
Prince-One Nite Alone Paris 2002 (boot)

[Martin Eden]

103. Lou Reed Rock. 'N Roll Animal

Intro/Sweet Jane is an all-time classic, and despite of the amputation, you can dance to a Rock N' Roll station!

(The best live rock album IMO is The Allman Brothers Live at Fillmore East, but that was already posted)

[AntiCoup2K4]

104. Live at Leeds works for the best "official" live album.

But if you want to jump over the imaginary RIAA line and count bootlegs, then you gotta go with the Rolling Stones "Brussels Affair" from 1973.

[Spirochete]

107. Ten Years After

recorded live in Frankfurt.

[ProfessorGAC]

109. Many Not On Your LIst

So, i voted other. Yessongs, for one. Kaboom by King Crimson for another. Also, Joe Jackson live is very good. And, Stop Making Sense is great.

And, Allman's Live at Filmore is not boogie, faux blues. Those guys felt it, so it's not faux. I would say that one is very good, so i could have checked that box, but didn't.

The Zappa album you mentioned is terrific, so that's the best of your named choices, IMO.
The Professor

[XNASA]

114. When I conduct the poll about 'Pointiest Guitars', I'll consult you.

I listened to Yessongs a bunch when I was but a wee lad. I heard it again a few years ago, or parts of it, and I was surprised at how bad the recording is. The band sounded good, but Eddie Offord must've been out of his head on mushrooms when he mixed it. The edits between songs were quite horrid.

I should have included some KC, just to be fair. King Crimson Live! from '71 comes to mind. I remember that some guy's screaming "Lake Sucks!" just before the start of 21stCSM. We all used to get a big chuckle out of that.

Cheers G. It was great to see you last Sunday.

[TX-RAT]

112. Best Rock

Has to be the Eagles Hotel Calif.

[XNASA]

113. See post #6.

:evilgrin:

Welcome. Welcome to DU.

[TX-RAT]

115. Guess I'm to old

Eagles were a rock band when i was young.

[Undemcided]

116. The Doors - Absolutely Live

Then the Who.

[proud patriot]

117. Either "Live After Death" Iron Maiden or "The allman bros. at the

Filmore east ....

118. how did we forget the Beatles? - I did also

Live at the Star Club in Hamburg - recording quality not so hot, but the band has some potential.

Plastic Ono Band -- Live, some guy named Clapton on lead guitar and Alan White on drums

[XNASA]

122. Agreed. But you see.....

Best Live Rock Album means the whole enchilada I'm afraid.

The recording quality, packaging, performance,...it all has to be weighed.

Unfortunately, there are no really great live Beatles records for this reason.

124. Agreed

there should be a special category then, since as I understand it the only reason the Star Club album exists is because of a tape being found under a pile of rubble after ten years.

[skypilot]

119. Peter Frampton Live!!!

Yeah, that's right. Bring it on.

[XNASA]

121. See post #6.

[skypilot]

123. See post #15

*

[XNASA]

125. LOL. I love that line.

I'm gonna start using it.

I'm not Lemmy, but I did sit next to him at a breakfast counter in LA once.

Fine chap.

[thebigidea]

120. "DEVO LIVE: The Mongoloid Years"

[Coventina]

126. Duran Duran: Arena

:evilgrin: