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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:11 AM
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Someone please tell me the Joaquin Phoenix interview on Letterman tonight is a bit.
It's a gag, right? Tell me I've been had, please.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:14 AM
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1. Either one of two things:
1. Joaquin is a raging egomaniac that truly believes in his own greatness OR
2. Joaquin's little red choo-choo has gone chugging around the bend.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:16 AM
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4. He's either really acting well
or he's checked out for the evening.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:17 AM
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6. In his case, I might argue both.
There is a fine line between brilliance and madness.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:13 AM
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53. edit.
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 03:14 AM by rcrush
.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:15 AM
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2. Didn't see it. What did he do?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:17 AM
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5. See Post #4.
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marchellojones Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:30 AM
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11. short clip
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:16 AM
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3. It is painful
really.
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hibbing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:21 AM
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7. ugh
Hi,
Well that certainly was strange. Dave ripped him a new one with his comments. I never got the impression that it was some kind of gag, just him not wanting to be there at all, or on some serious mind altering substances.

Anyone remember Crispin Glover on Dave?

Peace
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:25 AM
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8. He deserved it
"Joaquin, sorry you couldn't be here tonight."

etc. etc.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:40 AM
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12. Yes, Crispins was bizarre --
also this tonight reminds me of something Andy Kaufman would have done.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:01 AM
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30. Crispin's was fake, as was Phoenix's.
Glover was infamous for his performance acting. If he had really been that far gone, the directors would never have let him out on stage.

These things always happen on Letterman. I wonder if it's because Letterman is willing to play along, or because the performers trust his ability to play the straight man.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:37 AM
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39. I agree ...
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 10:52 AM by Tuesday Afternoon
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marchellojones Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:27 AM
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9. He certanily acted
in a strange way. Not too sure if it was an act. I think JP was serious!
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:29 AM
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10. His next guest is, ah, better
You know?
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:41 AM
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13. hmm...something not look forward to on Dave tonight
Maybe he wasn't acting in "Gladiator"? Just being himself?

His face (especially profile and hair) remind me so much of penultimate psycho roommate...A totally narcissistic megalomaniac manipulator who would laugh when he's say he didn't get along with anybody and the time he lost it and started screaming at me came up and tried to intimidate me by pushing me with his three hundred pound belly (at least he was six foot five)...A replacement recommended by the guy who moved out and seemed OK until he moved in and took over, making the four others (it was a great 5 bedroom house) feel so oppressed we got together and told him he leave. He refused, so we all did! This was in 1999, and I have serious doubts he is still alive today...God what bad memories this Joaquin dude manages to dredge up!
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:45 AM
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14. Just watched a couple clips. Ugh.
I've always rather passionately admired him and am sorry to see, not that he's leaving acting, but that he's doing so under... apparent duress.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:49 AM
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15. Oh, good, it wasn't only me that saw that...
I kept expecing Joaquin to rip off a fake beard at the end of the bit and do something... interesting.


Only I guess it wasn't a bit and the beard was real.


:wtf:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:55 AM
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17. I really thought it was a bit.
The first few minutes I thought I was going to see him do something that mocked some other idiot celebrity or something. After the third or fourth line from Dave poking him, I started thinking that it was real. And I felt sad. And I still do.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:13 AM
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19. I went off and moved some furniture
I'm moving out of my place at the end of the month.

Stacking old college textbooks on the floor was more entertaining, frankly.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:50 AM
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16. He's doing a faux breakdown for a mockumentary. Anyhow, we all know those vegans are crazy.
:popcorn:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:19 AM
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21. Considering River, I hope it's not fake.
I mean I hope that it IS fake but he'll fry for it if it is.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:36 AM
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24. It's fake. He did a phony rap performance in Vegas a while back.
Some actor's kid, I forget who, is shooting a documentary and he's starring. It's all a gag.
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:39 AM
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25. Casey Affleck
The talented Affleck brothar and Joaquin Phoenix's brother-in-law.

Yep, it's a hoax. I can laugh at it now instead of squirm uncomfortably.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:39 AM
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26. A gag.
His brother died of an OD, and he's faking it. Great. If true...

Thanks for Earthlings, and thanks for your work with IDA and PETA.

Now go fuck yourself.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:26 AM
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23. That's what I heard too.
Which, if true, is awesome. I want to see that mockumentary.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:13 PM
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48. He's got Mad Tofu disease.
It eats the brain, ya know.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:01 AM
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18. I'm not sure what kind of drugs he's on, but
even with my appetite for drugs and my penchant for taking two of whatever made someone nutty, I DO NOT want ANY of whatever he took. :(
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:15 AM
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20. here is the 5 minute clip
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 07:29 AM
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34. I tried to watch that. I really did, but couldn't get past the first 2 minutes. n/t
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:42 AM
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55. How hilarious. He sure didn't want to play the game, did he?
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:23 AM
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22. I did not see it, but from what I have read, it sounds so sad.
:cry:
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:43 AM
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27. totally joaquin trying to channel andy kaufman as part of his new "i am not an actor"...
"i am a hip hop musician" bullshit.

and it was sad to watch that.

jp don't do this...

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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:27 AM
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28. It was painful to watch
I couldn't tell if he was being serious or is just trying to fool us all. The interview definitely reminded me of the infamous Crispin Glover appearance in the late 80's
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:04 PM
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41. Yup, he's doing an Andy Kaufman.
I thought it was hilarious! :D
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:57 AM
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29. It's a character he's playing, like Crispin Glover and Andy Kaufman and Andy Dick.
At least I think Dick's was an act. Glover and Phoenix were. Joaquin has done the faux-meltdown bit a couple of times.

Kaufman is still the greatest. I still wonder if he's really dead. And if he is, that might be an even more clever gig than if he faked it, since it would mean he started a gag while he was alive that continues to run even after he died. Not many performers can keep a performance going that long.
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orestes Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:09 AM
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31. In regards to Mr. Kaufman
I'm still not convinced that Ann Coulter isn't Andy in drag.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:10 AM
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32. Ah heck, it's plausible. nt
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:30 AM
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38. Yeah, it's gotta be.
His reaction with sticking the gum under the desk seems a bit too clever.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:31 PM
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46. It is, his friends have talked about it, and LeftyMom has more on it upstream.
He's helping some young filmmaker out. Letterman or his directors wouldn't have allowed someone that far gone on stage.

And yeah, the gum was darned clever. Watch how quickly and smoothly he does that, when he's supposed to be so gone he can't even focus on long questions.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:06 PM
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42. I worked with Kaufman's longtime girlfriend -
and yes, he really is gone. :(
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:22 PM
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43. Yeah, I know. But I still wonder...
Mostly because it's fun to wonder.

I still think that in the back of his mind when he made the comments about faking his own death one day and then coming back twenty years later, that he knew it would screw with people's minds if he did die young. He was just one of a kind. My teenager is taking a class on rock history, which is turning into pop-culture history, and her teacher introduced her to Kaufman, so I've been reliving some of what he did. I remember when the wrestling thing happened on Letterman, and everyone believed it, and it wasn't until ten years after his death that the wrestler revealed it had all been staged. You gotta admire a comedian who can set up a joke ten or twenty years in the making.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:10 PM
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47. The first time I saw him...
was on The Dating Game! My Mom and I were watching, completely stunned, with no idea what was going on. When he showed up years later in "Taxi" we both remembered him -- he was pretty unforgettable. :D

He was certainly an original -- it made for truly dangerous comedy.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:18 PM
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49. I saw him on SNL. I remember the next Monday at school
everyone was talking about him. Almost everyone thought he was an idiot, but a couple of us elite type got it, and thought he was brilliant. He was one of my first experiences with trying to explain a type of humor to people who didn't get it.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:10 PM
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50. What I found most interesting is the...
genuine hostility his comedy generated -- people really hated the guy!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:01 AM
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51. People hate what makes them feel ignorant.
Those who didn't get him felt outside the ring looking in, and no one likes to be excluded.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:06 AM
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33. Heroin, with just a taste of blow to keep from nodding off on camera.
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angel823 Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:09 AM
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40. unfortunately
I think you are right.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:14 AM
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35. Seems like a bit of playacting to me - Dave is playing it too straight
and if Joaquin was that out of it, he wouldn't have been brought on.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:16 AM
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36. Joaquin Phoenix is a bit.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:31 AM
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37. It's his lead up to his real life permanent Howard Hughes imitation
Looks like he's in deep mental shit at the moment.

Kinda scary :scared:


clip:
http://gawker.com/5152039/joaquin-phoenixs-letterman-disaster



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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:24 PM
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44. he's in character. n/t
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:25 PM
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45. it's fake, Casey Affleck is doing a Mockumentary on him.
i love Casey Affleck.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:54 AM
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52. I think Crispen Glover was far more strange on Letterman
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:14 AM
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54. I've been trying to figure out what drug he took.
I dont think its acid cause he would have had a lot more fun during the conversation. Ex? Never did Ex so I dont know. My guess is he took some pills.
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