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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 09:00 AM
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Why is " Kyrgyzstan" spelled without any "i's'?

That bothers me. It really does. I have to do a double-take and mentally translate the Y's to I's.

It's probably transliterated anyway, so why the Y's instead of the I's?

Somebody who's knowledgeable about translating/linguistics, have an idea?



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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 09:02 AM
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1. Isn't that one of those countries that believes in "an eye for an eye?"
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 09:03 AM by Jamastiene
They might have already poked them all out.

:P

Sorry, I couldn't resist the pun.

:hide:
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:05 AM
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8. Good one


So, with no "I's" all they're left with are "why's" :P
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 09:11 AM
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2. I left my heart in Kyrgyzstan.
On a serious note, just heard on NPR today, Kyrgyzstan is trying to kick U.S. bases out. :thumbsup:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 09:53 AM
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6. If I were the decider, I'd move the bases out if they changed the y's to i's. nt
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:10 AM
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9. you mean yf you were the decyder?
ryght?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 09:20 AM
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3. they lacked the money to buy a vowel
so, tried to fudge their way into it with "y" instead.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 09:30 AM
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4. Y have no ydea. nt
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 09:44 AM
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5. it's a word that means "team"
and there is no "i" in "t-e-a-m"

:shrug:
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:00 AM
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7. Poor country, like Wales
can't afford vowels?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:12 AM
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10. In all syryousness...
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 10:14 AM by BurtWorm
There is probably a slight phonetic difference between the way those y's are pronounced and the way i's would be. When you transliterate Russian, for example, "i" stands for "ee" (the cyrillic "backwards N") and "y" stands for a sound called "yiri" in Russian, represented by something that looks almost like "bi" and that sounds like "ee" pronounced gutturally, toward the back of the throat. You have to hear it to recognize what a different sound it is from either the short or long English "i." I'm guessing the Y's in "Kyrgyzstan" probably sound more like the Russian yiri than they do the English or American (or Spanish or French, for that matter) "i."
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:16 AM
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12. GMTA
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:18 AM
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13. Deed they do.
Zdrastvuyte! Na zdrovye!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:18 AM
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14. Nichego!
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:19 AM
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15. ya ne znyio
neicheyvo
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:21 AM
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16. chto eto?
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 10:23 AM by BurtWorm
eto russki yazyk?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:26 AM
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18. barely, took it 30
years ago in college
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:29 AM
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21. I took one year in freshman year
but I've been reading it since I'm a little malchik. Family's from that part of the world, ponimaete?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:26 AM
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19. See Below:
смотрите ниже!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:24 AM
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17. Actually, the correct transliteration,
according to the current rules for transliterating Russian to English is as I wrote it: ничего == nichego.

I know this because I spend many long days typing Russian on an English language typewriter, since the place I worked was too damn cheap to by a Cyrillic ball for their Selectrics. I finally broke down and bought my own.

Current official transliteration is based on alphabetical equivalents, rather than phonetic equivalents, which makes for some pretty silly sounding Russian spoken by people reading from transliterated copy.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:38 AM
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22. For more information on transliterating (romanizing) Russian,
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 10:38 AM by MineralMan
see this wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Russian

Note that the BGN/PCGN standard is used by the US Government and military.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:14 AM
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11. Kyrgyztan uses the Cyrillic alphabet,
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 10:16 AM by MineralMan
which has two letters than might be transliterated with our letter "I". To prevent confusion, and to distinguish between those two letters, which are pronounced differently, one is represented by "I" and the other with "Y." Same think in transliteration of Russian.

This message brought to you by MineralMan, who was once fluent in Russian, but can barely scrape along these days.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:29 AM
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20. Looking at the sub thread above, aren't you sorry you asked?
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