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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:49 AM
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So, I'm Reading The Watchmen, Which Is Totally Awesome. Recommend Some Other Graphic Novels
BTW, after reading about half of this, I am having serious doubts about the movie. It does not lend itself to be your typical Hollywood-Superhero big budget kind of movie.

What other graphic novels should I read next?
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:52 AM
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1. Is that the one the Jehovah's Witnesses leave in your door?
Cuz I read that, and frankly, I wasn't impressed.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:57 AM
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2. Close
But not quite.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:58 AM
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3. I thought that was The Watch Tower...either way -- NOT
impressive. :fistbump:
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:25 AM
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4. x-men: god loves, man kills.
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 01:29 AM by keroro gunsou
oldie but a goodie.

on edit:

THIS is the x-men story i'd have killed to see on the big screen for the bad-ass-ery factor. when you've got gentle kurt wagner playing up the fact he looks like a demon to terrorize someone, you know the shit's hitting the fan. plus, it's the birth of wolverine's 1, 2, 3 trick. it was also nice to see magneto being a nominal good guy, and scott summers not being a doucherocket for a change. all that and cute kitty pride too... plus a nice, though obvious, morality lesson.

chris claremont at his best.

excelsior!
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:30 AM
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6. yeah, that's a really good one, too.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:16 PM
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27. I also recommend this. One of my favorite graphic novels of all time.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:29 AM
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5. If you like Spiderman, read 'Kraven's Last Hunt'...
easily the best Spiderman story ever.
Also HIGHLY recommended:
Daredevil 'Guardian Devil'
Batman 'Year One'
Batman 'The Dark Knight Returns'
Batman 'Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth' (not for the easily freaked out, this one :P)
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:56 AM
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7. not a graphic novel
but i'd personally hunt down and kill the person or persons for the madman that can produce the films of my all time favorite x-stories: mutant massacre and x-tinction agenda. sad to say it, but heath ledger would have OWNED cameron hodge in x-tinction agenda.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:26 AM
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8. Great!
Then you will get my avatar. It's quite an alternate history/reality Alan Moore constructed. Every little detail in every panel matters. You will notice something new each time you read it.

If you haven't already, try Moore's "V For Vendetta".


I admit I have a lot of apprehension about the movie. I could see a miniseries, perhaps, to allow the story some breathing room. Moore is admittedly scornful of the project and automatically disavows anything of his made into a film. I suppose because special effects/CGI have caught up with comics (for the most part), they feel justified into making a movie out of it. Still, I will see it.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:28 AM
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9. I tend to read the quirky weird ones.
I.E., not necessarily the regular superhero ones. :) And from what I've gathered, Watchmen is not a regular superhero one, so I intend to get around to reading that one at some point.

For some interesting takes on the superhero universe genre, I'd recommend The Authority and Planetary. They kind of go together in one universe. The Authority are the superhero team, Planetary is a behind-the-scenes group. They had at least one crossover that I know of, and there were several mentions of characters and events from one in the other.

For some non-superhero ones, I recommend Wormwood and Transmetropolitan. Wormwood is a 'what if' story dealing with religion. In this case, what if Christ and the Anti-Christ decided to tell their dads to (*&% off, and ended up becoming best friends. Transmetropolitan is a story about a Hunter S. Thompson style insane/drug-addled writer/reporter in a weird cyberpunk setting.
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:01 PM
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23. Well, Watchmen is still a superhero comic.
It's a total deconstruction of the genre, but it's not like Ghost World or Bone, or even Sandman. As much as Moore professes to dislike superhero comics, he's done a bunch of landmark ones over the years.

But it is well worth reading.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:26 PM
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31. Yeah, the Authority is a lot like that.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:48 AM
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10. The ones I loved the most were The Preacher series
sort of reminds me of the current HBO series "True Blood" in some ways.

It's twisted and deviant, though, so beware.

But outstanding artwork. imho.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:33 AM
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11. I second the recommendation of more Alan Moore.
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 04:36 AM by MilesColtrane
"V For Vendetta", "Miracleman", his "Swamp Thing", and "Batman: The Killing Joke" were all genius.

Neil Gaiman's "Sandman" series is also very good.
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:04 PM
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24. And "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen"
Moore really nails (often to an uncomfortable degree) the sensibilities of Victorian era society and literature.
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:47 AM
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12. Can't forget to mention Maus
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:38 AM
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15. That is an amazing work
There are two Maus volumes, if I remember correctly?

I still crack up when I think of the Simpsons episode where the new comic store in town is having a book signing: There's the author signing Maus, Alan Moore signing Lost Girls (!) and one other comic I didn't recognize (but which probably fits in with the other two). I bet 95% of the people who watched that episode had no idea what those books were about! lol
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:32 AM
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13. Camelot 3000
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 08:33 AM by RoseMead
is a fun read, especially for fans of the King Arthur legends.

Also, not a graphic novel, but a comic series with a clear beginning and end: The Sandman by Neil Gaiman. Like Watchmen, it won an award that was usually only given for "real" literature, ie books.

Re: Translating the Watchmen to film, according to word on the tubes, atleast one big change has been made to the story. I don't like the change, but we'll see how it translates in the film. One good thing: everything I've seen so far in the previews looks like it was taken *straight* from the comic.

On a personal note, I was a big fan of the series "Hellblazer," and thought the movie "Constantine" was an abomination. Watchmen is another huge favorite of mine, so they better not screw it up! lol


edited for typo
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:34 AM
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14. The Dark Knight Returns
One of the best I ever read
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:41 PM
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36. ditto on this recommendation,
I just finishd Watchmen this past november or so, and it was very good, I can't believe I went all these mortal years, without reading it before, I plan on reading it again before the flick comes out...and the ending, you won't see it coming

I also liked the story in the story, what the little black kid is reading at the news stand, the story of the pirates/guy lost at sea.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:39 AM
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16. The Preacher series, The Invisibles, Sandman, Fables
Off the top of my head. :)
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:59 AM
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17. I'm reading Fables:War & Pieces now
I always liked Willinghams work.

I'll second the Sandman books and Batman The Killing Joke.
Grendel is one of my favorite series, especially the God and the Devil story
I would also add any of the Love and Rockets/Luba stories (anything by the Hernandez bros.)
If you like Fantasy/Sword and Sorcery Mouse Guard is a good series with beautiful artwork.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:32 PM
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32. I'm reading the Sandman right now
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:34 PM
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34. Which volume?
They're all just so good. I own the whole set. I reread them often.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:38 PM
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35. Absolute Sandman volume 1
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:16 AM
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18. Transmetropolitan....
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:25 AM
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19. The Love & Rockets comics
Awesome, wonderful, life changing. I grew up reading them, they reaslly had an impact on me, let me tell ya.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:38 AM
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20. THE TERROR by Dan Simmons
will give you all the "graphic" you want. Based on a true story of British Ships exploring the Arctic in the mid 19th Century with a nice helping of scare the crap out of you fiction.

If ya want a short read, check out Jack London's "To Build a Fire." Very scary!
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:25 PM
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21. Moore's From Hell is one of the most mind-blowing pieces of work you'll read in the GN format
Really. It's unabashedly graphic and very weird, but ultimately one of the best treatments of the Jack the Ripper story you're ever going to read.

I also recommend Jeff Smith's Bone, and Stan Sakai's Usagi Yojimbo series for a change of pace.

Also, if you liked the alternative twist on heroes in Watchmen, you should look at Moore's Top Ten and Bendis' Powers. Both are fantastic.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:29 PM
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22. I just finished that yesterday
Absolutely loved it.

I was a bit of a Ripper-phile when I was a kid (so I knew most of the history), and I really liked Moore's take on it. Very gripping, and the artwork was great.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:06 PM
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25. Bone.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:11 PM
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26. I've always been fond of the Crow.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:32 PM
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28. Epileptic by David B.
No superheroes, just a story of a kid growing up with an epileptic brother. One of the best I've read (graphic novel or otherwise), and the artwork is top notch.



The book tells the story of the artist's early childhood and adolescence, focusing on his relationship with his brother and sister. His brother develops severe and intractable epilepsy, causing the family to seek a variety of solutions from alternative medicine, most dramatically by moving to a commune based on macrobiotic principles. As the epileptic brother loses control of his own life, the artist develops solitary obsessions with cartoons, mythology and war. The book's graphic style becomes increasingly elaborate as the children's fantasy life takes over, with their dreams and fears (including epilepsy itself) appearing as living creatures. In brief interludes, the children appear as adults when the artist begins the process of writing the story.

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:40 PM
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29. Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns."
It has nothing to do with the movie, but it takes place when Batman is about 60 years old, during the Reagan years.

He has to fight Joker, Two-Face and Superman as well. Very dark, but totally worth it.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 05:19 PM
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38. I Have That And I'm Reading That Next
Thanks.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 05:31 PM
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40. Read it....fantastic work!
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:40 PM
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44. Can't recommend 'The Dark Knight Returns' highly enought, but...
By all means skip DK2: The Dark Knight Strikes Again.


For all his self-congratulation about his self-described iconoclastic genius, Frank will waffle as quickly as anyone if the price is right.

Apparently the price was right, and more's the pity.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:54 PM
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30. Vintage Grant Morrison is fer ya:
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:33 PM
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33. DC Universe the stories of Alan Moore
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:54 PM
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37. Sandman
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 04:56 PM by Orsino
I wasn't a huge fan of comics in my youth. Sandman is what made me one today.

Lucifer had its origins in Sandman, but is great on its own. Fables is pretty magnificent, too.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 05:20 PM
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39. I adore Fables...
I need the latest one. I should pick that up soon.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 06:01 PM
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41. If you mean the latest trade, yes you certainly do.
Big-time resolution of the major story arc. The good news is that the author is promising us much more to come.

I don't follow single issues--it's one way I justify the expense of the trades--so I am not quite current.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:45 PM
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47. Yes, that one
I've been...well, busy, and totally forgot about it. WANT.

Hmmm, maybe I'll stroll down to the comic shop tomorrow. :D
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:43 PM
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46. Alan Moore's "V for Vendetta" made me a big fan of them
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 06:57 PM
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42. Wanted
I've got so many graphic novels, you'd spend a month reading them
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:38 PM
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43. "Blankets," by Craig Thompson. nt
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:42 PM
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45. Way different from Watchment, but I really like Ghost World.
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