On gay marriage:

[Blue-Jay]

I just saw an exit poll statistic on the news. When asked, 60% of the under 30 crowd is in favor of gay marriage! Sixty fucking percent! The future is sooner than we thought.

Just when I shooed some damn kids off my lawn, they go and and reaffirm my faith in humanity. It might not happen tomorrow, but the day after tomorrow looks good.

Cheers to my queer friends!

-Jay-

[ChiefHappyButt]

1. let's just hope

they learn how to vote.

and carry a tune!

[Blue-Jay]

2. Vote?

Do you know what an "exit poll" is? They VOTED!

[Maat]

4. Amen to voting!

I have told my sister that I will not listen to one complaint about a 2nd Bush Admin if she does not get out and vote in Nov 2004! And we both need to come strongly in favor of civil rights by joining PFLAG or Human Rights Campaign!

[southerngirlwriter]

3. We under-30 types will be cleaning up the mess

the old folks have made. And damn proud to do it! Go us!!

[DarkPhenyx]

6. As one of the "old folks"...

...bite me. It isn't the fault of all of us. Eventually you are going to need the wisdom of those who have been fighting this battle longer than you have been alive.

[southerngirlwriter]

7. oh, for the love of.....

Yeah. I meant it as a personal attack against YOU. I was thinking, "You know, that DarkPhenyx character is going to come along and read this and I can offend him/her!! What I'm posting has nothing to do with my excitement that things are changing -- it's all about offending the over-30 crowd! That's my motivation! Gosh, I hope no one sees through it."

:eyes:

[Rabrrrrrr]

8. I'm an over-30 type, and I agree with you

we oldsters keep wrecking crap, and you young 'uns is gonna be having to clean it all up, just as my generation was left with the crap from the previous one . . .

bloody "cold war" post-WWII "better living by chemicals" and "hey, let's make everything out of plastic and get into super duper uber mass consumption as a way of life" foolishness.

[DarkPhenyx]

11. And ended slavery...

...gave women the right to vote, wiped out polio...

[Rabrrrrrr]

16. So then my generation and older are above criticism

Because of the good things done?

Cool!

[DarkPhenyx]

17. Not beyond criticism by any means.

Simply observing that no one generation is completely responsible for breaking or fixing the way things are "during their reign". I am sure the next generation will fix some things. I am equally sure they will royally fuck something up for the next generation after that to fix.

[DarkPhenyx]

10. Think first, then post.

It may not have been your intent, but that is how many, not just myself, will read it. Think of everytime someone has said something about "young people have no clue how the world really works" "Catholics are narrow minded and homophobic" or something similar about any group of people. If you make broad statements about any group you are immediately wrong, and someone is going to be offended.

[southerngirlwriter]

13. I could post a thread

saying that I hope everyone on earth has a happy birthday, and someone would be offended.

No matter how innocuous, someone on DU is going to be offended by everything.

The world IS in a mess. It was made MOSTLY by people who are, today, over the age of 30. It will be cleaned up MOSTLY by people who are, today, under the age of 30.

I don't know why you must take that personally, but you're obviously determined to.

Nonetheless, I am still excited to be part of the generation that will clean things up.

Blue-Jay, my apologies for participating in this semi-threadjacking.

[DarkPhenyx]

14. Or screw it up even worse than it is already.

The generation before you said the same thing, and the one beofre that most likely.

There are some who would say it is the inaction and disinterest of the under 30 crowd that has helped to lead to the mess we are in today. If that is true then you are cleaning up your own mess are you not?

Food for thought.

[Blue-Jay]

9. Easy does it, Phenyx

This is good news. Were it not for you "old folks" it would never had progressed this far. You're not being marginalized, by any means. You're owed a great debt.

(ok, i feel funny calling someone an "old folk" when i'm 37.)

I'm sorry, but this statistic gives me hope for the future.

[DarkPhenyx]

12. We old folks.

I'm 36 mind you, and the statement was about people over 30.

[Blue-Jay]

15. Good news is good news.

<smooch> to DarkPhenyx. We're (the ones who are not idiots) making strides for equality. ALL of us.

You old fart. :D

[DarkPhenyx]

20. I got a SMOOCH!

Go me!

Remember, in the immortal words of Indiana Jones "it's not the years, sweetheart, it's the milage."

[foreigncorrespondent]

18. Ohhhhhhhhhhh NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Say it isn't so! Tell me that we 36ers aren't over the hill yet.

[DarkPhenyx]

19. Only if you are still on the hill.

I found this lovely little side track a few years back which took me way the hell over here and I have no clue how I got here. I'm definately not on the hill anymore though.

[foreigncorrespondent]

22. I have been standing at the foot of this...

...hill for the longest time now, and I decided I ain't climbing it to get over it.

[DarkPhenyx]

23. There ya go!

sounds a bit like "A journey of a thousnad miles begins with the realization that a thousand miles is a hell of a long way and then going back to bed for a nap."

[Blue-Jay]

21. You 36ers are past it.

I can say that because I "look" like I'm 26. The sound that you hear is NOT my bones creaking, so stop saying that. (apologies to Bob B.)

[prolesunited]

24. Hah!

26?!?! Only in dark bars when the barely legal groupies are trying to hit on you.

:evilgrin:

[DarkPhenyx]

25. I have the same issue...

...on both counts.

Makes it very hard to pick up women my age, and the 18 yo's keep hitting on me.

[slinkerwink]

26. I'm prepping myself up for the mighty job of messes we have to clean

up ahead thanks to the older generation.

[Rabrrrrrr]

5. And if we could get every one of those under 30's to VOTE

we'd take over the country.

[ChoralScholar]

27. hey.. we've just got to keep moving it forward.

The progressives of the previous generation delivered Europe from Nazi tyranny, ended segregation, and got us out of Vietnam.

I want people to look back and say our generation fought for people to get equal treatment, regardless of which gender they're sexually attracted to.

But as Martin Sheen said on The West Wing, policy (or whatever) is made by those who show up.

Here's to a new generation of progressives!

:toast:

[Blue-Jay]

28. Here's to them!

The worm has turned. Sure, it's a slow turn, but a turn nonetheless.