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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:48 PM
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It really just never ends...They want to put my Mom in a nursing home
For good. She needs 24 hour care. I'm really at a loss for words right now.

Sigh.

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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:51 PM
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1. I know that is probably the last thing you wanted to hear
but it is probably for the best.

Do you want me to look into some homes for you? I can get you the CMS rating if you want.

And, I'm sorry. When that day came for us, it was very, very hard.

:hug:
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:02 PM
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4. I agree with this; the quality of nursing homes varies so much, it's saddening
Unluckily my grandma was placed into one that wasn't quite so great. :(
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:03 PM
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5. I'm sorry. My dad was actually in a wonderful one.
We were very lucky.

Of course, being married to someone who knows CMS inside and out certainly didn't hurt. That's why I like to let it known here that if anyone needs help with this, I can help.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:04 PM
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7. I don't even know how we will pay for it...
Her insurance under my Dad's plan won't cover it, I think. I'm freaking out.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:07 PM
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8. Does your mom get any help from the state due to her conditions?
God I hate medical insurance :(.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:08 PM
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10. No...
I have no idea what we're going to do.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:13 PM
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11. My grandma got money from SSI, and
that covered a good chunk of money, but yeah our family had to pay a lot of money for lots of different things especially before she was placed into a home and she stayed with us in our house.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:13 PM
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12. My Mom's insurance paid something like 100 days
and then she had to go on medicaid. That was over 10 yrs ago, and even then the DON told us that was one of the best insurance policies she'd seen. Most only covered 30 days.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:18 PM
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14. Okay. It's going to be fine, trust me.
Is she on Medicare? Is she eligible for Medicare? If so, the state will pay the first 100 days.

You will need to get a social worker in your mom's town. NOT THE ONE AT THE HOSPITAL.

Even though assets have to be transferred three years prior to prevent them from being included in Medicaid, the swift onset of this illness might be a loophole.

I'll talk to Mr. and PM you.

If you've still got my #, call me. I'm at my desk.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:22 PM
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15. I can't really talk right now, I'm crying so hard...
Waiting for Sniffa to get here.

Thanks for your help. :hug:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:27 PM
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17. Okay. When you're able to.
:hug:

It will work out. You and your brother are NOT responsible for paying for her.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:55 PM
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2. Oh honey...
:hug:
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:01 PM
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3. Oh, sweetie. That's tough.
No words; I know you weren't expecting this so soon.

:hug: :hug: :hug:


:loveya:
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:04 PM
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6. I'm so sorry.
:hug:
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:07 PM
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9. I am so sorry
:hug::hug:
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:14 PM
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13. Sorry BB
:(

:hug:
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:24 PM
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16. I know nothing about any of this stuff
but if I can help, let me know.

(Even if it's just to take you out for a good tall drink....)
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Lady-Damai Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:28 PM
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18. Why not just give her 24 hour home care services? n/t
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:29 PM
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20. Well, when our family did that, it topped out at $9,000 a month
Kind of hard to keep up if you want your kids to have a future of any kind.
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Lady-Damai Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:42 PM
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23. Wow...sorry....

How about hiring someone off the books?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:38 PM
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29. Not doable.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:29 PM
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19. Oh honey...
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 03:29 PM by redqueen
we went through this with my grandma... I'm so sorry.

:hug:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:36 PM
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21. I am very sorry.
:(

I know how hard that is. It's agonizing for everyone except for any family members who are effectively washing their hands of responsibility. I hope you don't have any of those in your family. :(

If you can find a really good nursing home, and if you can spend good amounts of time there, then it's not so bad. :)

It's far better that she get the care she needs than that she doesn't.

Hell, I may end up in a nursing home at some point soon. If so, I hope I find a good one, and I hope my friends will come to visit.

I hope this works out for the best for your mom, and for you. I will be thinking good thoughts for both of you. :hug:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:38 PM
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22. Oh, my brother and i are the only ones who care
Well, my Dad, of course, but he's in the hospital for the past 11 months.

My sister and everyone else went MIA once Mom got sick. It's just me and my brother. Been that way for over a year now.

Thanks :hug:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:55 PM
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25. No you will not so stop saying that!
Hell, I may end up in a nursing home at some point soon.

See #24 below! Of course, you've already dealt with your center. Are they being helpful in any way at all? (the quality of services does tend to vary between centers)
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:31 PM
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28. The Center for Independent Living out here
is repeatedly striking me as less than useful. And I'm hearing from other people that they avoid the place. :(

It's a shame too, because the center I know in Buffalo is a big hub that does quite a bit.

But I'm still making connections, so we'll see if I can connect with people who can be helpful. It just hasn't happened yet.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:49 PM
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24. Aha! Now we have entered my area of expertise.
Best practice increasingly involves home health care aides ("home and community-based supports") rather than soulless, impersonal nursing homes.

Western Mass. is a fairly big center in disability rights, so there should probably be some people out there who can help. A place to start is the Center for Independent Living, the similar agency to the one in which I'm sitting. Amherst and Pittsfield each have one. She will be in one or the other's service area, not both, depending on where exactly she is.

Amherst: http://www.stavros.org

Pittsfield: http://www.adlibcil.org

Not at all surprisingly, the Amherst center has a more extensive webbsite.

Out here, a well-known artist lived with ALS, at home, until just recently.

http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20081120_peggy_chun_dies_at_62.html

:cry:

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:07 PM
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26. God bless you
:hug:

I know how you feel. We had to give up and put my Mom in one last year finally. We just didn't have the resources to continue to care for her and she just kept getting worse. We lucked out when my brother found a very nice facility close by that would take her for what she was getting from Social Security. It's a not-for-profit faith based facility and it puts the for-profit facilities we looked at to shame.

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:09 PM
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27. I know how you feel.
My dad is in a nursing home as well.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:39 PM
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30. i'm sorry.
when you are able begin looking into SSI, Medicaid. take care. :hug:
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:49 PM
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31. It's a tough decision, bi baby. Been there. First it was my mom when dad was still
able to get around. Then he came out of a surgery for a hernia repair with a post-op dementia
and had to go in a locked unit (fortunately there was one at the same place where mom was). Then mom
died and I moved dad here to NC from CA where they'd been, without family support at their insistence.
Put him in one very nice home--even though it was secured--and he started falling. Out of there into
one recommended by his physician. He had very good care after that, even though his room was small.
At least you have one sibling to help. My brother never once came to visit dad here in NC--over a year and a half--and I'm still pissed at him for that.

Be prepared for some tough times. Be sure to take care of yourself.

:hug:

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:12 PM
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32. I'm so sorry, bi_baby.
It is very hard news to hear. :hug:

There are good homes and there probably are ways to pay for the care. I know that Midlo will help you as much as she can. I hope that it works out well.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:17 PM
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33. my mom was in a good one. nuns.
she was a life long catholic, and there is a great one run by the nuns out where she lived. they were great to her, and to us.
but it really is better to do it sooner than later. the more aware she is, the less confused she will be. i know the money thing is part of the equation, tho.

take care, kiddo.
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