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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:17 PM
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post why vinyl is better than CDs!
-it has more collectability value
-it has much higher resale value. you'll be lucky to get $5 for a used CD, you can often get $40 for an LP
-the sound quality isn't as cold and mechanical
-if you want a CD, just burn one off the vinyl. try making a vinyl out of a CD
-it's bigger, therefore it's easier to show off how huge your music collection is
-it'll never be obsolete, while CDs will be seen like 8-tracks are in 10 years
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:21 PM
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1. You can heat them up and bend them into cool shapes......
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:21 PM
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2. Plus, as Robert Pollard once pointed out
while expounding on this very subject, lots of LP's are gatefolds, and you can de-seed your weed on them.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:22 PM
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3. It's cool to watch the spin.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:22 PM
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4. I recently sold an LP for $40. It was...
Hamburg Philharmonic's, Rhapsody in Blue and Symphony for Blues. :7
I've bought some expensive vinyl too.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:23 PM
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5. if you treat em like I treat my CDs... they sound like crap
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 05:31 PM by BigMcLargehuge
uh... nothing captures the pop and snap and crackle of microscopic dings and scratches like a diamond stylus? You get good exercise flipping them over every 22 minutes? Sometimes when you open the album for the first time it's warped and unplayable?

Sorry... I was a vinyl guy for almost all of my life, but I embraced the present.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:23 PM
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6. Vinyl is archival.
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 05:25 PM by The Night Owl
The EMP from a nuclear explosion would scramble a CD, while vinyl would still be playable.

When Dubya kills us all in a nuclear holocaust, mutant cockroaches will enjoy my record collection.

:nuke:
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:27 PM
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10. uh no
The EMP from a nuclear explosion would scramble a CD, while vinyl would still be playable.

That's wrong sorry, an EMP would not affect a compact disc in any way.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:34 PM
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13. Unfortunately your dvd player would be shot to hell though.
Integrated circuits don't usually hold up well to EMP.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:13 PM
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18. Not if you give your DVD player a tinfoil hat...
...it actually DOES provide some shielding from EMP.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:25 PM
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7. I don't buy the "vinyl sounds better than CDs" argument...
I am a vinyl collector, but I cannot tell the difference between a mint condition vinyl record and a CD.
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quispquake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:25 PM
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8. Album art is MUCH cooler at LP size...
--I like the warmth of analog sound
--Nothing like a gatefold LP to clean out a stash :)
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:26 PM
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and it looks way cooler







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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:26 PM
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9. um.
-it has more collectability value

Far more people collect CDs than records.

-it has much higher resale value. you'll be lucky to get $5 for a used CD, you can often get $40 for an LP

Probably because CDs are much more demanded and mass produced.

-the sound quality isn't as cold and mechanical

Tapes hiss. Records have lower sound quality. Get a winamp "record noise" plugin if you want to have that stuff tainting your music.

Furthermore, digital sound quality doesn't degrade like a record, and you can copy it without losing quality.

-if you want a CD, just burn one off the vinyl. try making a vinyl out of a CD

Why would you want to? So it sounds worse? You can burn a CD with noise added that sounds exactly like vinyl if you want the low sound quality that badly.

-it's bigger, therefore it's easier to show off how huge your music collection is

Yeah, and the 1960s called, they want their osbolete data storage devices back :P.

-it'll never be obsolete, while CDs will be seen like 8-tracks are in 10 years

They were obsolete years ago. CDs will be playable for many years, and the data that can be perfectly extracted and copied (unlike a record) will be good forever.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:30 PM
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12. you obviously haven't met any indie kids
"Far more people collect CDs than records."

yeah, but how many will buy 5 copies of the same record since they're on different colors?

"Probably because CDs are much more demanded and mass produced."

perhaps, but i'd rather buy a vinyl i don't like than a CD

"Tapes hiss. Records have lower sound quality. Get a winamp "record noise" plugin if you want to have that stuff tainting your music.

Furthermore, digital sound quality doesn't degrade like a record, and you can copy it without losing quality."

not neccesarily true. the idea that vinyl sounds worse comes from the fact that most vinyl recordings are older, but the fact is with modern day production, they'll sound equal if you have a decent enough speakers and turntable. and if the recording quality sucks, the vinyl will sound way better, pick up the Shotmaker 2xCD compilation of all their vinyl and then their LPs for evidence.

"Why would you want to? So it sounds worse? You can burn a CD with noise added that sounds exactly like vinyl if you want the low sound quality that badly."

I listen to the vinyl in my room, I listen to the CDs in the car and when I'm not around my turntable

"Yeah, and the 1960s called, they want their osbolete data storage devices back :P."

well I still have enough room

"They were obsolete years ago. CDs will be playable for many years, and the data that can be perfectly extracted and copied (unlike a record) will be good forever."

obsolete means no longer used. Go to any hipster record store, they'll be selling vinyl, all modern day too. I don't own ANY pre-90s vinyls. and you can copy and extract a record, i rip vinyls to MP3s all the time.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:27 PM
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11. I remember hearing that a cd couldn't compare to a...............
master vinyl. I still think vinyl sounds better and someone explained to me that because digital is all 1's and 0's then they couldn't possibly save all the sound being recored like a vinyl does. Maybe a techy could explain it better.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:35 PM
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14. Vinyl certainly flies farther when you throw it like a frisbee.
:D
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:36 PM
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15. As a DJ...
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 05:36 PM by a_random_joel
There is absolutely no comparison.

1. Scratching and other manipulations of sound tricks available with vinyl.

2. Easy to cue, easier to jump to specific parts of a song visually.

3. A fat 12 inch just sounds better on a loud system. The bass frequencies are fat as hell. I don't care what anyone says, you can't get that analog sound from digital.

4. You can mark your records, take notes, etc.

5. There is just a better "feel" to holding vinyl.

On the upside for CDs, they are a hell of a lot easier to tote around...
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:41 PM
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16. Some good stuff is only on vinyl, and will probably never be CD-released.
Such as Charlie Ventura Live at Bop City.

Lotsa great jazz, great classical.

Even pre-vinyl (acetate?) 78s, etc.

:)



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Intelsucks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:43 PM
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17. Well, after vinyl "died" suddenly the pressings got much better sounding
than they were in the 80's. The turntables and cartridges also got better because the whole market became dedicated to the few, the proud, the vinyl listeners! Last Fall I bought a new turntable for almost $4000 and it is very sweet indeed. I'm still paying for it... No regrets.

Vinyl is more of a pain in the ass to deal with than CD's, but it does sound better on a worthy audio system. There are many exceptions, but most of the time the mastering (or lack of) is what makes CD's sound so shitty. I've got some that sound so brittle that they make you want to run for the hills.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:24 PM
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21. $4000?! Is it an Oracle?
n/t
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ChiefHappyButt Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:15 PM
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19. crunchier, and last longer
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 10:26 PM by ChiefHappyButt
just add one serrano pepper, and boom - you got your very own boom box ( in the gut)
CD's are too, too, bland?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:20 PM
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20. As a music lover.....
... I know that lots of "purists" really think vinyl is superior to CDs but I'm not sure I agree with them.

Yes, vinyl does sound different, but not necessarily better IMHO. The first CDs were poorly mastered but now the engineering has improved to the point that I really think CDs are a superior medium.

I still have a turntable and have some material on vinyl that I don't have as MP3 or CD - so I do still listen occasionally. I find vinly to sound a bit muffled and muddy.

Let the flames begin :)
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:30 PM
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22. I prefer CD
Maybe I listened to my vinyl way to loud in the 70s, because I can't say it sounds better than CD. I started buying CDs as soon as they hit the market in 84. The convince is great.
I haven't used my turntable in about 5 years, but i still buy used vinyl for the covers and readable liner notes. They're great for display.
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