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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:30 AM
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So, is New York City actually Small Town, USA?
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 01:34 AM by SeattleGirl
I've noticed that on pretty much every fictional crime show I watch that's set in NYC, when one of the cops finds out where a suspect is, they always tell the other cops on the case that the suspect is in the lower east side, or in the west side, or whatever. And the cops being told where said suspect is never ask for an address. They always say, "Okay, I'll meet you there."

Now, I live in Seattle, which is nowhere near the size of NYC, but I'd never tell someone to just meet me downtown. I'd give them a precise location.

Am I missing something here, or is NYC truly and actually Bum fuck, USA? :shrug:

:rofl:

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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:30 AM
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1. yes
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:34 AM
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4. Cool!
Thanks for solving THAT mystery!

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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:35 AM
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5. always
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:32 AM
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2. Good observation
It also bothers me, just a little, when people don't lock the doors of their homes in scary movies (but I guess they don't in any movies!). Or, when people ask someone out but never get their phone number(s)!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:36 AM
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6. I guess the movie wouldn't be as scary if the doors were locked.
And the people who ask someone out without getting phone numbers must be stalkers! :crazy:

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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:46 AM
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11. Very funny. nt
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:50 AM
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14. Hehe.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:33 AM
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3. I've always noticed that, too!!!!
:rofl:


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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:37 AM
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7. If someone told me that, I'd be driving around for DAYS, trying to
figure out where the fuck I'm supposed to be! :rofl:

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:42 AM
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8. New York = San Francisco -hills - sea lions -( charm/2) + filth
:shrug:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:45 AM
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9. Damn, LM!
Now I'm really confused, 'cause I'm not very good at math! :cry:


:rofl:

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:47 AM
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12. Translation:
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 01:48 AM by LeftyMom
New York is San Francisco with filth, no hills and only half the charm. And no sea lions. :( The East Coast apparently doesn't have them, which strikes me as horribly sad.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:49 AM
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13. Gotcha!
Never been to NYC, but I've been to San Francisco twice, and I love that town!

And yes, it's said if NYC doesn't have sea lions. One of the charms of SF, definitely!

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:51 AM
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16. Man, if New York is San Francisco WITH filth, remind me never to go there
'cause damn, SF is some filthy shit.

Walking in people's piss and shit--not cool. x(
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:55 AM
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17. It's rainy, so the worst gets washed into the bay at least.
New York reminded me of what San Francisco would be like if it were warmer and didn't rain much. And a garbage strike was going on. :P

New Jersey, to my shock, was mostly pretty nice.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:44 AM
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31. You even met a nice cop in New Jersey
A rare find for that town. Recently, they shot a local guy five times in the back at point blank range the morning of his brother's HS graduation.

NJ is actually quite nice, though.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:41 PM
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38. Actually, it's not "so rainy", and actually no more so than NJ.
eom
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 06:57 AM
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23. Have you ever really visited the neighborhoods of Manhattan?
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 07:14 AM by Genevieve
Or are you coming to these conclusions about
all of NYC from a taxi ride
you took from the airport from Queens on the Long Island Expressway
and back?

I live in the West Village, in New York City, and it is
a beautiful residential neighborhood.
Most of New York City neighborhoods are wonderful....the only place that New Yorkers
rarely frequent (basically, NEVER) are where so many of the tourists visit, which by that I mean
Times Square.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/realestate/20070923_COV_FEATURE/index.html
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:24 AM
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28. You beat me to it
Also, there are four other boroughs that are really neat.

...okay, three (we try to forget Staten Island exists :P)
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:28 PM
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35. Yes.
There are three more! ;)

We have such beautiful neighborhoods in NYC. Where I reside, the picturesque streets are always
compared to the lovely towns in Europe. Then there's Central Park West,
Museum Mile, all the fabulous neighborhoods on the water on the West Side,
Riverside Drive, No-lita, Gramercy Park .. and so many, many more.
And not to forget the great neighborhoods in the boroughs (except for Staten Island, of course).

Thanks for responding. ;)
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:08 AM
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25. Well.... NY does have hills.
Not as many, relatively speaking, as San Francisco or Seattle, but there are some.

As for the filth, my guess is you have not been to NYC in some time. There are many sections of the city that are very clean.

As for charm, very few cities have as much as San Francisco, so I'll certainly concede that point.

And the east coast does have sea lions.... you just have to go further north, ie Maine, whre the water is colder.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:47 AM
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32. She was there last September
When she came out for my wedding.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:39 PM
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37. And NYC has plenty of charm...I think many tourists think NY is just midtown and Times Square.



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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:17 AM
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27. ummmm............HA-HA-HA
I don't even know where to begin with you LM...sigh x(
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:30 AM
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29. Yeah, it's sad, isn't it?
I guess I should be used to people dissing NYC by now, having lived here for about 40 years.

But at least I can appreciate a lot of other cities, by actually spending some time in them, instead of buying into the myths.

:thumbsdown:
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:46 AM
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30. Bah...typical West-Coast supremicist argument.
You forgot one key fact...anything you could ever want, can be found in NYC...or doesn't exist. Arts, culture, fancy Tobaggan cuisine, history, eclectic bookshops, 24-hour coffeehouses, Brooklyn, great sports teams (and the Yankees. Sorry I can't resist a Yankees dig. It's in my sworn oath as a Sox fan.), soapbox preachers, Yoruba mystics, naked cowboys, Times Square, concerts, plays in the park,...(I didn't run out of examples. I'm just lazy.)

But no sea-lions. :cry:
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:43 PM
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39. And we don't even need a car to enjoy it all! nt
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:34 PM
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36. But having been in both cities, the sea lions smell worse than the
people.

Just sayin'.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:34 PM
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52. Your Ocean is BULLSHIT: can't swim in the Pacific ocean without freezing yer cans off.
the beaches around here are better for people than anything you got in Cali.
Suckers.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:13 PM
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41. At least you can eat nearly anywhere after 10 pm in NYC
And do I need to go into the fact that NYC is something like 10 times the size of SF? There is so much more there there, there is no comparison.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:29 PM
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43. ........
And NYC is made up of sooooo many different, interesting neighborhoods....each one
individual to itself.
SF, is well, just SF. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, but don't
go put down an entire city from one experience in a taxi
ride from the airport).
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:42 PM
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45. I think I have to disagree with you a bit there
The area by the shore and the spaces near the ballpark feel very different to me. Bayview is segregated into its own world. I think it's just that NYC has so many more different places.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:46 PM
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47. Ok.
I wasn't aware,
so thanks for that ;-)

Yes, NYC has SO many different places. (And you don't need a car).
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:47 PM
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48. The last time I was in SF I got food poisoning so bad I puked my guts out all night
and slept in the bathtub so as to not wake hubby.

I have NEVER--and I've been to NYC a gazillion times--EVER had a bad meal in NYC.

So you can have your fog and your filthy streets and lousy food in SF. I'll take Manhattan, thank you very much!
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:46 AM
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10. Here's looking at you, SeattleGirl...
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 01:47 AM by Robeson
...yeah, when I was a private dick in the Lower East Side, all we needed was a name. Back then, the air was so thick, a name was all you needed. Rain pounded on the windows so hard, it made your back itch. And that's all you needed,...that itch.

Who needs an address when you're looking for a stiff, or the finger man. All you really need is a smell, a taste for the Lower East Side.

Yeah, those were the days...

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 01:51 AM
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15. :swoon:
I love those kinds of movies!

:faint:

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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:01 AM
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18. If I had to count how many times...
...I've watched a Bogie movie - repeatedly - I'd be a millionaire. And once one comes on, I can't turn it off...;-)
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:01 AM
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19. I hear you!
For me, he's addictive.

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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:17 AM
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20. It's weird that you say that...
...because Mrs Robeson and I were talking about the same thing. We have most of his movies on dvd, so we could watch them anytime. Yet if we see one coming on TV, we just have to watch it. LOL!

I've always thought, he was the original "method actor" before there were method actors.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:19 AM
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21. We're the same way.
We have lots of our favorite movies on VHS and DVD, yet if they come on the television machine, our butts are parked on the couch, and we'll watch 'em, commercials and all!

:rofl:

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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 07:07 AM
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24. Plus good lookin' dame and you had to be a chain-smoker
Trenchcoat optional
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 12:45 PM
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33. That post is all wrong
Hard-boiled detectives are soo West Coast (specifically LA and SF).
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:09 AM
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22. It's a small village, really

Its apparent size is all the result of special effects.




See?




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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:11 AM
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26. Betcha you could say the same thing about any TV series based in a city.
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 10:21 AM by speedoo
Streets of San Francisco?

Miami Vice?

Can't prove it, but it would be interesting to find out!

:hi:
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 12:48 PM
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34. heh, good catcth
Probably just one of those cinematic elisions, like how people in phone conversations just hang up on each other, and don't actually eat their meals.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:01 PM
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40. You're missing an important point.
Have you ever noticed how cops on TV or in movies always manage to park right in front of the place they need to go? No matter how big the city or what time of day it is, there's always a nice big space directly in front of the suspect's/witness's/partner's building. The space is usually so big, in fact, that the cop can drive into it at full speed and then come to a screeching halt (no parallel parking required).

There's the answer to your question: the cops just drive around the Lower East Side or wherever, until they spot the only unaccountably empty parking space in an otherwise solid street of cars. That's the clue that tells them they've found the right place.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:58 PM
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49. ROFL!
:rofl:
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:15 PM
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42. Yes, but not in the way you mean
NYC is very provincial. I know people who have spent years on the island of Manhattan, never stepping foot outside that one borough. I also know people in Queens who would never even think about going into the city for dinner or whatever. I myself (pitifully) didn't set foot in Brooklyn until I was in college!
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:31 PM
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44. I know many people who do not
want to travel outside their zip code!
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:44 PM
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46. What crime shows are you watching? Law and Order and SVU always
give street addresses at the bottom of the scene.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:59 PM
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50. Without A Trace was the show that prompted my post.
One agent called another and said that the suspect was spotted on the upper east side. The other agent said, "Okay, I'll see you there."

Where the hell is "there" in the upper east side?

:shrug:

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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:12 PM
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51. Oh, well, that explains it. I don't think the writing on Without a Trace
compares to the Law and Order series.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:55 PM
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53. Yeah, I guess...if you consider Kathy Hilton 'just folks'...
:)
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