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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:28 PM
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Radio Lady Reviews Movies: "The Dark Knight" (Opens 7/18/08)
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 01:50 PM by Radio_Lady


The Dark Knight

The new “Batman” movie has swept into town with much advance hype. Apparently, there was some thought about calling it “Batman: The Dark Knight,” but apparently they didn’t feel they needed to identify it that way. I try not to be jaded, but looking at some of the fingerprints, this film is a dramatic and deadly crime drama with some superhero overtones. Batman has always been a guy rich enough to purchase the whiz-bang devices he needs to become the "Caped Crusader".

The positive buzz is everywhere with accolades for a strong cast and other visual, costume, set design and special effects -- all top flight. Although there is an historical explanation of the inscrutable title, it had many reviewers scratching our heads. “The Dark Knight” is definitely poised to break many performance and financial records. This is a dark, troubled, tortured, and explosive tale that has nothing to do with the famous Knights of the Round Table. It is more of a convoluted crime-caper flick than a superhero epic.

The film opens on 4,300 screens nationwide today (Friday, July 18, 2008 at 12:01 AM). Early screenings were available in some markets, and long lines formed, indicating the depth of this cult following. You may find it hard to get a ticket for the opening days or weeks. The on-line ticket seller www.Fandango.com reports a tremendous rush for advanced ticket sales everywhere. “The Dark Night” is clearly poised to break financial and audience records. I predict it may also grab a clutch of Academy Award nominations, especially for lead actor Heath Ledger who plays the evil, twisted Joker. The 28-year-old Australian actor died tragically of an apparently accidental overdose of prescribed medications last January, after this film had wrapped.

Ledger’s splotchy makeup as the Joker is well done, but his grimacing, chewing and licking of his lips, as well as his manner of speaking, added to the way he carries himself in a somewhat hunched-over stride -- is a classic creation that will not be easily equaled again. The bar is so high that I feel this would be an almost impossible act to follow.

The movie features the dark-haired, divinely handsome Christian Bale in the title role. He was also the lead in “Batman Begins” (2005). Bale is excellent in his portrayal of Bruce Wayne/Batman, the fabulously wealthy Gotham City resident who has enough money to buy the hardware to make gadgets and gewgaws to enhance his heroic bents. Michael Caine plays faithful servant Albert. (Goodness, could it be so long ago when he was a leading man?) Kudos also to Gary Oldham, one of the best character actors of our time, who portrays police Lieutenant James (Jim) Gordon. Others cited for their excellent acting are: Maggie Gyllenhaal as Rachel Dawes (the role played by Katie Holmes in the earlier movie), and Morgan Freeman as the droll Lucius Fox.

Radio and TV adaptations carried the “Caped Crusader” forward in time from its comic strip heritage. As background, I grew up with the original Batman and Robin cartoon figures in comic books and I believe the strip appeared in Sunday comic section of one of our Miami papers. (It was “Wonder Woman” who really captured my imagination, and I remember re-enacting “bullets and bracelets” in my own young world.)

Back to TDK, Ledger’s portrayal of The Joker is so on target that I suggest you watch “The Dark Knight” now or at some point in the future for that reason alone. Ledger immersed himself in the role to the extent that he brings the fictional character to life. To do that with a comic book villain is an incredible accomplishment, especially since Jack Nicholson and others have played him so well in the past. Ledger presents us with a perverted, manic, homicidal terror. The Joker thrives on the violence and mayhem he produces. You believe it when the Joker tells Batman that he wants him and needs him to survive because he must have Batman in order for his twisted life to have meaning.

Be aware that this movie is not for those audience members who are made easily queasy. This is especially true in the IMAX version. I struggle with motion sickness, and had to wait three hours for my nausea to disappear. Also, this is a very violent movie and the death and destruction begins immediately, and may awaken many phobic reactions – fear of heights, speed, and sharp objects to name just a few. A person with a fear of clowns might also have extreme feelings. There are many shock cuts, and a continuous feeling of mayhem. My fear is that some audience member will be traumatized and slip over the edge to harm. Sadly, it’s happened before.

“The Dark Knight” breaks with many of the established traditions of superhero movies. The running time is over two and ½ hours or a mind and bottom-numbing 152 minutes. The decision to keep it that length, perhaps to showcase the fantastic action scenes, was met with mixed consequences. At the end of the run-time, I yearned for an end to the extraordinary violence and unbridled mayhem that went on and on. Some may like this departure from the more usual comic book hero stories, but it was a tough movie to watch. This outing incorporates less fun and loses the tongue-in-cheek villains who are really not that bad -- villains that can laugh at themselves and possibly return another day.

The script is very contrived. There appears to be an endless determination to show grisly killings, gigantic explosions, and vehicle effects. No one seems to care very much about script cohesiveness. Only the various performances made it tolerable for me. The Batman character is far less prominent in this film. Sometimes he is quite out of character. Suddenly he can fly. Suddenly he has special vision capabilities. Suddenly he can fall several stories with nary a scratch. Further, it’s hard to cheer for the hero when even the good guys are being murdered and maimed, and when even the good guys can turn bad. This hero is so complicated that by the time you reach closing credits, you feel as if psychological therapy might be appropriate for all involved.

To recap, the main players include Christian Bale as Batman/Bruce Wayne, Heath Ledger as The Joker, Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent, Michael Caine as Albert, Maggie Gyllenhaal as Rachel Dawes, Gary Oldman as Lt. James Gordon and Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox. Christopher Nolan directed and co-wrote the script with brother Jonathan. They had a great cast, added loads of special effects and in the end, they made a movie that celebrates Heath Ledger’s life. He also leaves his Australian family, as well as actress Michelle Williams and one small child. How sad it is that we will never get to see him again.

I rate “The Dark Knight” a B+ on Ellen’s Entertainment Report Card.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:33 PM
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1. Maybe the next one might be with Two-Face
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:53 PM
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14. If you see Aaron Eckhardt in this movie with half his face gone while still among the living,
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 05:55 PM by Radio_Lady
you might decide differently.

I'll never forget that image. I had dreams about it and not sure I want my grandkids to see it. It looks like a Gray's Anatomy rendering, if you know what I mean. It is VERY VERY realistic.

Are you planning to see the movie?

RL in OR
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:54 PM
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15. Here's some Aaron Eckhardt love right back at you!
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 05:56 PM by Radio_Lady
I love you from your chin dimple right down to your toes. :loveya:
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:35 PM
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2. There's a new Batman movie?
Thanks for the heads-up.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:59 PM
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5. Yes -- and you are entirely welcome. You'll be hearing more about, I'm sure.
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 02:02 PM by Radio_Lady
This is a wide Friday opening today (July 18, 2008) and probably poised to be the biggest movie draw of the summer!

SeeU@theDU

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon





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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:36 PM
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3. If you are unfamiliar with the Batman being called the Dark Knight,you're out of the loop.
Also the Joker was always Batman's main nemesis. Joker was a psychopathic killer from the beginning.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:56 PM
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4. I'm the first to admit there are many others who are more steeped in comic book superhero lore...
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 02:06 PM by Radio_Lady
than I am. However, I think I represent probably the larger majority of moviegoers who may want to see "The Dark Knight" even though they are not comic book fanatics. Several reviewers had to be reminded of the connection. Originally, we were told that other titles were tested, including "Batman: The Dark Knight." IMHO, that choice would have been more understandable and inclusive. Thanks for your comments.

Cordially,

Radio Lady Ellen Kimball in Oregon
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 02:17 PM
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6. I understand.
I hope I didn't come off as snarky.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 03:32 PM
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7. Thanks, Swede. Are you a Batman fan? Will you be going to see the film?
:loveya:

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 03:38 PM
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8. I've been a fan since age 7 or so.
Definitely going to the movie,but I can wait til the crowds die down.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:04 PM
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9. Reviewers usually know when a movie is opening big... this one had HUGE crowds waiting to get in --
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 05:05 PM by Radio_Lady
to the free previews. The people who request free tickets from newspapers, radio stations, and websites are all standing in line on the day of the preview outside the movie theaters! Once the press folks get seated, the studio representative brings in the "screening fans" to fill up the house.

As you may or may not know, the larger studios sponsor advertising and announcements and people can get free tickets to these showings, at least in bigger cities.

I hope it won't be a long wait for you! The movie is already #3 in the Top 250 Movies at IMDB.com. Amazing on the first day of US release.

Thanks for your comment.

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:19 PM
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28. Don't.
See it in a packed theater with an audience not yet aware of what all to expect. I've rarely seen an audience react this way to a film. People applauded in the middle of the film, for clever directing as well as for what some of the characters did. There's a scene near the end where a horrific dilemma is created. It takes a minute or two to develop, and you don't realize all at once what's happening. You could hear the audience figuring it out--a couple of early gasps, then increasing murmuring as it develops, until the full horror is revealed. People sat motionless as it worked to the conclusion. You could feel the audience's reactions.

Not something to be missed.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:15 PM
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32. Our preview audience was pretty sedate... no gasps, but a nice round of applause at the end.
Edited on Sat Jul-19-08 08:15 PM by Radio_Lady
I haven't heard that in quite a while.

Not sure what dilemma you are talking about...

Thanks for your post.

RL in OR
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:12 AM
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45. The dilemma
with the detonators. When they found the first one, the audience started to catch on. You could hear a buzz through the crowd.

Mine was very responsive. They applauded in the middle of the film, when a certain character appeared with a shotgun, if you know which I mean.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:09 PM
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10. My girl surprised me with tickets for tonight!
I didn't read your review because I don't want any spoiler, but thought I'd say I'm going to see it tonight!

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:17 PM
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12. Wonderful! Check back here if you can with a THUMBS UP or DOWN.
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 05:18 PM by Radio_Lady
I won't have much time to respond, at least not today. I've also taken on reviews of "Mamma Mia!" and "Space Chimps." It's such a beautiful day outside, too! Boo-hoo!

Oh well... the things I do to get free tickets and NO MONEY. My online reviews are part of volunteer jobs... I'm way too old to be stuck in a theater and then in front of a typewriter (started in 1971) so I can earn my daily bread with talk shows and film reviews.

I used to get $50.00 a pop on the radio. Now, I have to do it for free because anything else will take away from my beautiful retired life!

Thanks for your comments.

Radio Lady in Oregon
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:39 PM
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13. But at least you get to see some kickass movies!
:)
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:01 PM
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16. I can pick and choose without feeling the need for compensation.
However, if the economy worsens, I may have to get some dollars for cranking out this stuff. I'll use it to pay for my cremation and memorial service. That's becoming just one of my long range goals! Right behind paying off our 30-year-mortgage.

Explanation: I'm 69 years old -- officially a TV and radio geezer. Maybe I'll burn the mortgage at 99, and then I can just stick around to make Willard Scott's 100th birthday salute.

Now I'm wondering if Willard will actually be gone, too. I have no idea how old he is!

:rofl:



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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:08 PM
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17. He's up there in age.
I always wanted my grandma to live to 100 for I could put her mug on there, but she died at 78. :(
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:15 PM
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18. OK. I got curious -- born in March 1934. He's two months older than my husband who is 74.
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 06:17 PM by Radio_Lady
Audio Al is a digital geezer. He's outside planting flowers.

Willard Scott was always such a great weatherman. I've loved him since the 1960s. Genial and pleasant and funny.

Bouquets for the living.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_Scott

PS. Hey! You're in Salt Lake City, UT. If you ever get to the Chili's in Layton, UT, you can say 'hello' to my son David. He's one of the managers there.

:loveya:

We're meeting him, his wife and the two grandkids at Snowbird resort in Little Cottonwood Canyon next spring. We love that place!
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:16 PM
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19. haha, do you think that'd weird him out if I did that? :)
Snowbird is nice! I love living so close to the ski resorts.

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:25 PM
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20. No, not at all. I've given that information to many other people.
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 06:27 PM by Radio_Lady
David has lived there since 1990. He converted to LDS and married a local girl from a wonderful family. They have two young boys and we see them often.

I think he's the only David there, but use my maiden name, Ellen Kimball which I post here all the time. Kimball is my family name (his maternal grandfather) and he'll know you. Tell him you're a friend of mine from the Internet.

UPDATE: Oops. My husband reminded me that he moved to another Chili's and we can't remember where. So you've have to call the Layton store and find out where David the manager was reassigned. Sorry about that.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:33 PM
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21. Gosh, make me do all the work! :)
Kimball, eh? That's funny, because Kimball is a very prominant name here in Utah. A lot of Mormon Kimballs.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 07:36 PM
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22. Yes, I know. We found out that Heber C. Kimball had one wife named...
Ellen Kimball

The first time I knew that was when to: "This is the place" overlooking the Great Sale Lake

She kept a journal during the Mormon journey. I think Heber had twenty or so wives.

UPDATE:

No relationship to my Eastern European and Russian Jewish heritage.

Our family changed their name to Kimball from Levy (don't know what it was).

Before that, we don't know.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 07:38 PM
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23. There is also Spencer Kimball, who was the twelfth president of the LDS Church.
I believe he was the grandson of Heber Kimball. I knew so many Kimballs growing up!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 09:27 PM
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25. When I began in radio, using my birth name Ellen Kimball in Boston, people called me all the time
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 10:09 PM by Radio_Lady
to ask me if I was related to this or that Kimball.

I used to say that I had an Uncle Harold Kimball and other relatives in Chicopee, Massachusetts. I was distantly related to him.

I never met the man to my knowledge, but he may have been at my New York wedding. I can't confirm that! It was a big guest list and my parents made the decision to bring some of the friends and relatives whom I did not know.

When people ask me if I'm related to any other Kimballs, I always tell them -- I wish I were related to the Kimball piano family. That's because I love music and if I had been in a piano making family, I might have had music lessons. As it was, we had a used Kimball spinet piano and I got lessons from my family's maid -- an elderly lady named Bessy Yost, from Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

"Aunt" Bessie finally got to the point where she told my mother that it was not the right instrument for me. I think I made it through the first and maybe the second couple of books of John Thompson, and can still remember the song about the swan and the minstrel man music. I love music, have what I would consider perfect pitch, can read a little music, and probably would have done well with the clarinet or another wind instrument. But there was little interest or money for lessons at the time.

My father played the violin (badly) but I have his love of classical music, particularly by Russian composers and lots and lots of violin music.
My mother played the piano. She could really do well with "Fuer Elise" (Sister Elise) by Beethoven. I can still see her sitting there with her beautiful dark hair, playing the piano. I am sad that she died at 71, alone and far away from me.

Mommy, Daddy and me (1940s)







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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:28 AM
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52. how odd! nt
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:13 PM
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11. Looking for perfection, the word is GEEGAWS, not GEWGAWS.
Spell checker goofed; editing period over. Maybe that's an alternate spelling??
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 07:49 PM
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24. I'll never forget my introduction to the indestructible nature of the Joker.
I had a reproduction of the original 1930's "origin story" issue of Batman when I was a kid. In the "final" battle between Batman and Joker, they're wrestling with each other over possession of a knife, and the Joker gets it right in the ribs. There is a wonderfully ghoulish moment when Joker starts laughing maniacally and screaming "The Joker's going to DIE! The Joker's going to DIE!" and then he collapses.

The last panel takes place in the back of an ambulance. The doctor is shuddering over the Joker's body, and the cop riding along says: "What's the matter, doc? You look like you just saw a ghost!" The doctor says, with a frightened look on his face: "I may have. This man isn't dead...he's alive! And he's going to live!"

I knew then, at age seven, that nothing could keep the Joker down for long...

Can't wait to see "The Dark Knight". Thanks for the review, Ellen. B-)
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 09:58 PM
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26. Hi Aristus -- Thanks so much for your complements and adding that little story!
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 10:07 PM by Radio_Lady
I read Wonder Woman, Superman, and the Archie comics -- and sometimes delved into the superheroes of the Marvel group. One of my favorite booklets was entitled: How to Kiss. I learned quickly and practiced it every time I could!!!! Steady date came along in my mid-teens.

When the radio serials played after I got home and into the evening, I was mostly listening to The Green Hornet, The Lone Ranger, Let's Pretend, Amos 'n' Andy, Fred Allen, The Life of Riley, Fibber McGee and Molly, Walter Winchell, and Louella Parsons, that gossipy lady! So much of radio filled my days. The women who worked for my mother introduced me to Stella Dallas, and other soap operas. More than one of them were baseball fans, so I heard the ballgames featuring the Boston, New York, and other city teams.

I didn't have any siblings, so my life was kind of solitary. After school, I rode my bicycle, took care of a couple of horses for a while, and a little parade of kitties. Sometimes, I waited with my dog Bambi -- and later, Dolly, at the corner of NE 12th Avenue and 131st Street in North Miami, Florida -- close to where my parents purchased a little home on a 100 ft. x 100 ft. lot. Both of my parents worked in my Dad's legal office. Mom would get home, make a simple dinner, and we'd all eat together.

Nice to hear from you, Aristus. Have a wonderful summer weekend! Let me know how you like "The Dark Knight." I hope you don't suffer from motion sickness, especially while watching IMAX. The experience was pretty intense for me -- and I had a headache and nausea for several hours afterwards.

Radio Lady in Oregon
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:34 AM
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42. Joker dies in the mid 80's The Dark Knight books...
You'd have to see it for yourself. I don't want to spoil the scene.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:15 PM
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27. i said this in the other thread, this is one of the best crime movies of all time
this wasn't a superhero movie, this was an examination of corruption and crime gone amok. this was about two sides battling over the soul of a lost city with each side represented by two people willing to go to any length to stop the other, body count be damned. It's funny, after the movie I happened to catch part of an episode of the Animated Series of Batman where the joker had kidnapped a child and was on a roller coaster throwing bombs at batman in a second car. That's what Ledger did with his Joker, made him a pyschotic terrorist/lunatic who has no problem killing for the sake of killing. Like he said, he doesn't have a plan, he's just a freakish force of nature out for anarchy and chaos. Lt. Gordon and Harvey Dent represent the good of Gotham, the white knights in a sea of corruption. Batman is the ultimate tragic hero, a guy who wants to do good, but has come to the realization that he needs to almost do bad to accomplish the good. This is what makes the movie such a fasinating story, a huge cast of characters interlocked and feeding off eachother while at the same time battling eachother for the same patch of real estate that is Gotham.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:21 PM
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33. Interesting... everyone seems to have their "take" on the ending, even among reviewers.
Edited on Sat Jul-19-08 08:25 PM by Radio_Lady
Interesting... everyone seems to have their "take" on the ending, even among reviewers. I thought the movie was too long, and so did most other critics. The stories are not interlocked, IMHO, and the resolution is grim. Several scenes could have been deleted. One heroine is killed and one hero is deformed. Tough stuff for most audiences.

There is a lot of brutality in this film, and I was very spaced out by the last half hour; however, I disregarded that for the sake of the review. I struggle with:

Motion sickness
Uncomfortable with high speed action
Uncomfortable with heights
IMAX theater makes the experience even more intense

Not usually my cup of tea and I do not plan to see it again.

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:43 PM
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29. Just saw it. I've never actually felt an adrenaline rush after a film, until now.
The tension from about the halfway point was incredible. Not only constant violence and mayhem, but actual plot tension, as one dilemma led to another and you knew that each step was part of a bigger plan. Nolan let you think your way through the plot, rarely hiding anything or shorting the explanation, yet still seeming to know what the audience would figure out on their own. The directing guided you through the film, more than revealing the film to you. You anticipate what the characters feel and do. And yet there were so many surprises early on that you were off-balance, expecting shocks and surprised by the end, not really comfortable that what you hoped would happen would or what wouldn't happen wouldn't. And it often didn't, or did.

A true masterpiece. The story was smart, yet action-packed. The editing and cinematography were outstanding--it will get all sorts of technical nominations and wins come Oscar time, I suspect. Every inch of the screen in every scene was carefully filled, crafted to add to the tension or emotions.

I'm drained. Christopher Nolan is no longer waiting to live up to his potential. I think he emerges as one of the top directors in the industry after this. What he does next, though, I don't know. This will be hard to follow, for many reasons. Yet, I think it's impossible not to continue the story, especially for Nolan, who sems to be struggling with the same dark questions as the characters.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:49 PM
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34. Agree with you on the potential for nominations. This film was chock full of interesting.
What kind of an accent did the Joker have?

He sounded like Al Franken on weed!!!!!

Just a small quibble -- I wasn't completely satisfied with Batman's voice. I understand the headpiece is supposed to alter his speech, but what they came up with didn't work for me.

Thanks for your comments, jobycom.



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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:08 AM
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44. One reviewer said "Great movie, but get Batman a lozenge."
Yeah, that got me, too. I guess they were just trying to make it believable that no one would recognize Bruce Wayne's voice under the mask, and to give the voice a gruff power. I admit, that didn't work for me, either.

On time the voice did work, though, was in the first video the Joker released, of the dead Batman mimic. He used his squirly clown voice through most of it, but at the end when the camera got shaky the Joker vanished from the shot, and all you heard was a gruff, shockingly-loud voice bark out something lethal. That worked so well the audience jumped.

The Joker's accent--I never noticed it.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:42 AM
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46. Joker's accent -- it was more of a flat, vocal midwestern snarl in my mind.
In "Brokeback Mountain," when he spoke (which was rare in that taciturn part), you could convince me he was from out West. Of course, the movie was filmed in Canada, which is a whole other discussion.

I stand in complete awe for the Aussie and British actors who can switch into "Americanese" English -- Toni Collette, Eric Bana, Nicole Kidman (well, she's from South Africa, isn't she?), Russell Crowe, and many more I am failing to name here.

Batman's voice was so low and acoustically filtered that I had a hard time understanding what he was saying! Too bad they didn't catch it. Another reviewer had to turn up his hearing aid! That's my sound test! He's not that old, but was in the music business and ruined his hearing. Very sad.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:53 PM
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30. I was going to see it at an Imax theater tomorrow with some friends
but I think I'll hold off after reading your review. I do have a problem with motion sickness and excessive violence doesn't sit well with me (enough of that in the real world anyway-it's nothing I like to "escape" to). So, maybe I'll wait for the DVD. I really liked "Batman Begins", but this sounds more frenetic and dark than the earlier film. Thanks for the through review!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:51 PM
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35. Lorien, you made the right decision. This one is pretty tough. I have no idea how they received
the PG-13 rating.

You'll do better with the DVD.

Thanks for your comments.

RL in OR
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:08 AM
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39. I'm trying to think...but I don't recall them *showing* a lot of stuff. Mostly they imply it.
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 01:09 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
I guess what I mean is...there isn't "splatter".
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 01:16 AM
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31. I just saw it and here's my thoughts
Either you get into it, or you feel like you wasted 2 and 1/2 hours of your time. Maybe there's a middle ground where Heath Ledger was worth it but damn you wish it had been 45 minutes shorter. But I think the run time wasn't about showing off the special effects it was part of the effect. The same goes for the fact that there was no setup and it just kept moving the entire time. Batman Begins was almost entirely about setup and this movie has almost none. Usually one would attribute that to bad directing but I think it's clear that Nolan didn't forget about pacing like George Lucas did in Star Wars Episode II, he just decided that he was going to deliberately do the entire movie at warp speed. Obviously a gamble that has paid off both financially and critically.

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:53 PM
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36. Hi Hippo_Tron. Appreciate your post... was it OK to be by yourself?
Edited on Sat Jul-19-08 08:54 PM by Radio_Lady
This has been a frenzied Saturday with two grankids in tow, and now I have to go out to a party!

Just wanted to acknowledge your post. I agree with you completely.

Cordially,

Radio Lady Ellen Kimball in Oregon
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:43 PM
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48. Hey Radio_Lady, it turned out fine
I think it was mostly weird because I'm used to seeing Superhero and movies on opening night with my best friend. It's a tradition that pretty much goes back to middle school. Now that we don't live in the same city anymore, that's obviously bit difficult.

Thanks for asking and hope the party went well.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:41 AM
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50. Good to know. Yeah, my best gal pal and her husband moved to Wisconsin last year.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 12:49 AM by Radio_Lady
That is so wrong.

Thursday's party was great fun. Beautiful day on Lake Oswego, near Portland, Oregon. It's the Portland Area Radio Council -- lots of sales people and media buyers. Al and I have been on both sides of the business, performing and selling.

Oh, sorry. It was Saturday's party I discussed -- "bathing suits optional". All the ladies got naked and we floated around on plastic noodles while we watched the sun go down. It was delightful. I have to call our hostess, because she took a spill on a wet spot on the pool siding. Others went to her aid. I was about to leave when it happened, so I do not have an update.

Cordially,

Radio Lady Ellen Kimball in Oregon

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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 10:40 PM
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37. Thank you for starting this thread.
I look forward to seeing the movie. Like others here, I do not do well in an IMAX setting so it will be the regular theater for me. It will be interesting to see how they handled Two-Face. Having at least 3 people in my life who are facially different makes me overly sensitive to how Hollywood treats the topic. The public already perceives them as freaks and someone to be feared.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:21 AM
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40. You could teach a college course on Batman! Look at this LONG article in Wikipedia...
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 01:30 AM by Radio_Lady
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:01 AM
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38. Thank you, Radio Lady. I love reading your reviews. A minor correction...
Michael Caine's character is named Alfred, I believe.

Thank you for an excellent review without revealing any 'spoilers'.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:26 AM
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41. Oops. My mistake. You are correct . Michael Caine is Alfred.
My first boyfriend was Albert!

My present husband was Alvin, now changed legally to Allen.

My fingers did the walking and fell through a manhole!

I also have used the word "apparently" twice in one sentence.

I'll keep trying for perfection. Wish we had editing privileges beyond what the DU is willing to grant.

:rofl:

RL in OR

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:35 AM
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49. Cannikin, thanks for the catch. Finally got that typo edited by the person at the TV station...
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 12:51 AM by Radio_Lady
on Monday afternoon.

Maybe if I'm very, very good, they will give me the controls and I'll really learn HTML...

I promise I won't hack into their news. As a matter of fact, I have never been to the station. I'm doing all my reviewing from a home-based computer.

www.kgw.com

KGW TV Channel 8 in Portland, Oregon
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:39 AM
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43. Metacritic link is here. Most of the country's best critics think this movie is...
excellent.

82/100 from the site = Universal Acclaim.

Read it here: http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/darkknight

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 04:57 PM
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47. $155+ million dollars projected for Monday afternoon's final weekend figure.
That's truly amazing!

Also, the picture is now rated #1 out of the Internet Movie Database's Top 250 films.

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:56 AM
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51. Any other people want to post a review?
That would be cool.

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:35 AM
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53. ummmm...
:wtf:

Who kicked this?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:38 AM
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54. Radiation Therapy
and now you and me.
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