Follow up: Susan Atkins denied "Compassionate Parole"

[Lil Missy]

Here's the original thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=7887190

Dying Manson follower denied prison release

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - California's state parole board on Tuesday denied a request for compassionate release to Charles Manson follower Susan Atkins, who stabbed actress Sharon Tate to death nearly 40 years ago and is dying of brain cancer.

The California Board of Parole released its unanimous decision hours after a 90-minute hearing, during which it heard impassioned pleas from both sides.

Her doctors and officials at the women's prison in Corona made the request in March because of her deteriorating health. Atkins also has had her left leg amputated and is paralyzed on her right side, her husband and attorney, James Whitehouse, told a parole hearing.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25692507/

[Lil Missy]

1. So, this went over like a fart in church. With so many passionate responses on the first thread ...

I am surprised this doesn't get even one response.

I am headed to the tub now, in case the power goes out.

[Danger Mouse]

2. I don't know how I feel about this.

[liberaltrucker]

5. Simple

She, Charlie, et al, should have inhaled HCN gas in the 70's.

Their long lives, albeit behind bars was courtesy of SCOTUS.

Her removal from the gene pool is LOOOONG overdue.

Philosophically, I'm opposed to the death penalty.
BUT, there are those rare cases........

[Danger Mouse]

8. Hmm...I believe in life imprisonment, especially for monsters like the Manson family...

because some of them eventually realize how disgusting they were.
I kind of feel bad for what she's going through right now...
but I feel worse for Sharon Tate.

[liberaltrucker]

10. As do I

There are no winners here. Susan murdered Sharon in cold blood.
Perhaps she paid the Karmic price with her cancer. That's not
for us to know.

Charlie, however is an unrepentant bastard. HCN is too good for him.

[Danger Mouse]

12. You know, I'm going to be a nerd for a moment.

The superhero Ghost Rider's most feared power was the Penance Stare. He'd make a criminal feel the pain of all of their victims. The psychological effect could be quite traumatic.
I would support that more than any other punishment for a criminal. The idea, at least.

[Dr. Strange]

21. That's a power I would love to have.

That, and the power to cause criminals to lose control of their bowels. I hesitate to think what my superhero name would be though.
:scared:

[Lil Missy]

16. Pardon my ignorance, but what does "HCN" mean?

I also agree with you about Manson. He's made it pretty clear that he would go back to his same ways with murder and cruelty if he were ever released.

I am also mindful, and very disturbed, particularly about his history in childhood. If you want to create a monster, treat them like total shit, physically and emotionally abuse them, abandon them whenever possible, and other atrocities I don't care to mention. (Like selling him to someone for a pitcher of beer. And worse.)

I am not at all advocating the release of Charles Manson. I consider him beyond all redemption.

I do think that some monsters, and evil people are born that way. But in Manson's case, I can't help but feel he was created.

[ForrestGump]

18. High fructose corn syrup

I think.


Oh, wait a minute...that can't be right.

I'd be willing to bet it's hydrogen cyanide.

Arguable as to which is the greater public-health menace.

[liberaltrucker]

29. Hydrogen Cyanide

The convict breathes deeply and falls asleep.
His/her last sensation is smelling roasted almonds.

Not a bad way to go IMHO.

[Lil Missy]

15. Yeah. I feel badly too, However, I concede on the issue.

As a totally fucked up teen and early adult, I could never have done anything that horrible, cruel, and heinous.

[Danger Mouse]

27. My sympathy ends there...what she did was loathsome.

[WinkyDink]

22. "kind of feel bad"? I kind of don't. Maybe the Parole board should say to her, "You're going to die,

bitch, and I don't feel a thing."

[Lil Missy]

14. Her crimes were grave, and I understand the mixed feelings and animosity about it.

[liberaltrucker]

3. At least she won't have someone drinking her blood just before she dies

:nopity:

[ForrestGump]

6. Hey, now. Don't be dissing

the Atkins Diet.

[liberaltrucker]

9. Sorry about that

Inappropriate in this context, but I know a good one when I see it.

:rofl:

[Shell Beau]

24. .

:spank:

















:rofl:

[dolo amber]

4. I think it's kind of a bummer

I mean, are you the same person you were at 19? (or wtfever age she was, before the punishists jump in...) She was young. She's not the same person. She's going to die. She's got one leg, ffs. Let the woman die in peace.

[Yavin4]

7. She Didn't Let Sharon Tate Die In Peace

I'm against the death penalty, but I am all for life without the possibility of parole for violent crimes. I don't give a damn that she was only 19 at the time. She was an adult, and she needs to pay for her crimes.

[alphafemale]

17. I agree. It was one of the cruelest, coldest murders ever.

Yeah. She's old and sick and dying now.

I was still a young teen when I read Helter Skelter.

That left a mark on me that few things have since.

Life in prison has to mean just that.

And she showed no mercy.

She gets no mercy.

Sometimes "The People" get to bring the long deserved Karma down on your ass.

[WinkyDink]

23. Or her 8-month fetus.

[Mad_Dem_X]

26. I completely agree

She participated in some of the most gruesome murders in our history. Let her rot in jail.

[liberaltrucker]

11. Kick

Hi LM!

:hi:

[Lil Missy]

13. Well, hi back, LT!

:hi:

[Skittles]

19. I think the compassion would have been for her family, not her

her family surely has suffered for 39 years with the knowledge of Ms. Atkins guilt and punishment. Quite obviously, Ms. Atkins is no longer a threat to society. But her dilemma has always been that her crimes were so heinously cruel and so well-publicized that in the minds of most people they - and her - are simply unforgiveable. She was always destined to die in prison.

[johnnie]

20. Exactly Skittles

Instead of dying in a hospital bed where her family could go see her, she is dying in a hospital bed where she has limited visitors. From what I read she really is not very responsive anyway.

I had to chuckle at the responses here a few weeks ago when people were saying to not let her go, let her die in prison. It's not like she is laid up on some steel cot in a cold cell. In fact, she is probably more comfortable now than she would have been had they released her.

[Shell Beau]

25. I saw something on TV that Sharon Tate has only one living

sister left. And I think she is making it her life goal to make sure that Manson and crew never get out of prison. So there is also the compassion of Sharon's family to think of as well.

[liberaltrucker]

28. While I'm philosophically opposed to the death penalty

Rarely, there are those criminals who are nonredeemable.

Susan is one of those. Although the State of California
was unable to administer her due-namely HCN gas, Karma
caught up with her. My prayers to her family and her victims.
But not her.

Edited for typo. It's been a long day :)