Ok, check in if you saw 'Sex and the City' this weekend **** SPOILERS ****

[LynneSin]

I saw in on Sunday and it was fucking awesome - loved every minute of it and it was so what I would expect from the SATC creators & writers. It was great to see these women who were my age dealing with the romance issues that I could relate to.

One bit of a nit-pick though. (spoiler - leave now if you don't want to know about it)
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I was disappointed with what they did with Stanford and Anthony in the movie. Anyone who watched the show knows that when these 2 met at the beginning of season #4 (setup on a Blind Date by Carrie & Charlotte) those 2 couldn't stand each other and everytime they met they were always snarking each other. Anthony went so far to try and damper Standford's happiness with his new partner he finally found in season #6 when Anthony discovered that Marcus (Stanford's partner) was previously an escort found in men's magazines (something Marcus did not tell Stanford). But Stanford and Marcus managed to keep their relationship going through the end of the series. So when they showed Stanford and Anthony - there was no snark between these two. It was almost like they were best buds and I think towards they end they were matching up the pair. What was worse, no mention of what happened to Stanford's long term partner Marcus. SATC kept alot of the continuity from the TV show to the move but I was disappointed with how Stanford and Anthony turned out. Both were important parts of the show but in the movie it was almost like "Oh yeah there were these 2 gay guys from the show that we'll give them about 5 minutes of screen time and totally ignore any history from the TV show as we do the movie".

[Tommy_Carcetti]

1. They all died of herpes!

Who saw that coming?

[LynneSin]

2. You ok you fucking hate the show - why do you have to be a jerk about it

If you don't like SATC fine- hey, there are movies out there I think are pretty damn stupid but the rest of DU seems to get excited about seeing. Do you see me getting into their threads making stupid snarky remarks.

Your a guy so clearly you don't have a fucking clue what was so special about this move - which for many of us hit home pretty closely. No, I can't afford fancy clothes or A-list parties - but I did deal with many of the relationship issues that those girls went thru.

Perhaps next time if you see a movie thread for something you thought was a dumb idea for a movie - try this silly ideal - HIT THE "X" next to it and hide it.

I know alot of DUers were excited about the movie and was hoping to have a great conversation with them.

:grr:

[huskerlaw]

3. I saw it TWICE!!

You know, I hadn't really given much thought to the Anthony/Stanford scene, but you have a point. Everyone else was so completely in character and that very much wasn't. Then again, they did look at each other funny and down the rest of their drinks before they were able to kiss each other...

Another question: why did Carrie choose Samantha to be her maid of honor? Not that that was completely out of character, but why Samantha over, say, Miranda, whom Carrie was closer to at that point, or Charlotte, who had always supported her relationship with Big? I didn't mind it, in fact, I really liked it, but Samantha wasn't the obvious choice there. Especially given her intense hatred of all things marriage/wedding related.

[LynneSin]

4. Personally I think there is a prequel out there that needs to be made

My guess is the reason she picked Samatha is that she knew Samatha longer than any of the other girls. But I always thought that there is a great prequel opportunity by creating a show that shows how these 4 gals met. And the great thing is they can extend a great show AND bring in new stars to play the younger versions of Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte and Samantha.

[huskerlaw]

5. We talked about that, actually!

Not about making a movie out of it, but that we wished we knew how they all met. Especially Samantha, since she's 10 years older and wouldn't really seem the "girlfriend group" type outside of this particular friendship.

I don't know how having other people play them would go over though. I mean, clearly they would have to use other people since, while they look great, none of them could pass for 20 year olds, lol. The only way I could see that working is if the current cast was still the main cast and the story was told with lots of flashbacks as part of another movie, which also had a storyline that advanced the story...if that makes any sense.

[LynneSin]

9. I think if they did the prequel as a TV show and not a movie

I just think it's a great opportunity for HBO. And I think it would work if some or all of the current actresses helped with setting up the flashbacks, at least for a few minutes at the start. But if you ever saw "The Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood" they did a good job with having 2 sets of actresses play the same role (The lead was played by Ellyn Burstyn and Ashley Judd).

but the prequel I doubt would be anything more than an HBO series or perhaps one of their own movies/mini-series.

I'll tell you this much - I was crying and laughing thru most of that movie. And the whole wedding scene was amazingly done ESPECIALLY the reaction of Charlotte.

[huskerlaw]

13. That's an interesting idea

And yes, Ya-Ya did the same character at different ages VERY well. That's almost exactly what I meant by having flashbacks while also having an advancing storyline.

The TV show is another potentially intriguing idea...not sure how I feel about it though.

The movie did have an amazing balance of laugh/cry, I totally agree. Hell, half the time you were doing both at the same time! Like with Charlotte in the wedding scene. One second she's absolutely scary pissed and the next, you're laughing because she can't walk away gracefully in the dress. Overall, it was far more than I was expecting, honestly.

[LynneSin]

15. Well I think it would be best to start with just an HBO movie and work from there

I mean there is so much potential for prequel material and not just how the 4 of them met. But even including how they ended up in New York and what happened in their childhood that made them who they are today.

[Midlodemocrat]

6. If I never watched the show, will I be able to follow along?

I don't get HBO, so I've never seen it. I bought the DVD after it went off the air, but couldn't get into it.

[LynneSin]

7. The movie had some flashbacks at the beginning

but for some of the jokes you had to see the show.

[huskerlaw]

10. Yeah...

but it's not that the movie is difficult to understand without flashbacks or whatever, it's the investment in the characters that would be totally lacking. Obviously, they don't spend any time getting the audience to CARE about the characters because they're assuming they don't have to.

I'm thinking about the following things in particular:

1) Miranda's comment to Steve at the reception about how she had changed for him. Ok, but unless you SAW that change, it's a rather meaningless statement.

2) Samantha's comments about staying with Smith because he was there for her during chemo. Yes, we can understand that if someone stayed with you during cancer, you'd feel pretty shitty about dumping him, but without seeing the show, you don't know how BIG that was for her.

3) Charlotte's pregnancy. Yes, we can all understand infertility, but it loses a lot of meaning without knowing about what she went through with Trey.

4) Carrie and Big. We all get that being jilted sucks. But people who've never seen the show...they can't possibly understand Carrie and Big. Not really.

It would just be a very superficial movie for people who never saw the show. Understandable, yes. But missing very important backstory.

[LynneSin]

12. I totally agree

I mean even stupid things like Sam's dog that humped everything and Charlotte's 'Poughkeepsie Incident' all had tie backs to previous incidents.

[huskerlaw]

8. Maybe...

I would suggest trying to watch the show again before you go though. Do NOT watch season 1. Horrible shit, that season.

Honestly, if you could get your hands on Season 6, or even the second part of Season 6, you could catch yourself up in just a few hours.

It's not necessarily that you won't enjoy the movie or won't understand it, but you would be missing a LOT of the underlying emotion. You won't know why the relationship dynamics are so important, why the characters are hurting so much, or are so happy, or so torn, or so...whatever.

A little background is a very good thing.

[LynneSin]

11. YOu have to watch season #1

You're right, season #1 was alot different than the latter seasons but it really did help introduce the whole Carrie/Big relationship. If anything it showed just what a cold, unfeeling bastard that Big could really be even though he never really intentially tried to be hurtful to Carrie - it was just his nature to be such a shit.

Oddly enough when they kept kidding about this being Big's 3rd marriage I kept forgetting about the 'Stick Figure with no Soul' from season #2/#3.

[huskerlaw]

14. Hmmm...

maybe a few select episodes from S1? I wouldn't impose that entire season on anyone who's not a fan. It's almost painfully bad at times.

[LynneSin]

16. Well they all have value but I'd stick with the Big episodes

All the other 3 didn't form their relationships until latter Seasons. Miranda met Steve in Season #2 (when Carrie & Big started to hang out again), Harry came around in season #5 and Smith was in Season #6.

I would have loved to have had a run-in between Samatha & Richard. There was unfinished business with that relationship.

[huskerlaw]

17. Ooooh...Samantha and Richard would have been great

since the last time they were together, it was that nasty little fling after she freaked out about Smith. I'm not sure what I would have wanted to see though...like, what kind of interaction.

But I agree that something would have been warranted.

[LynneSin]

20. maybe the sequel - Samatha is single again

I can't believe Sam would last 5 years in a relationship.

[taterguy]

18. U R Ded 2 me

Warning or not, you still posted a spoiler

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7781442&mesg_id=7781442

[LynneSin]

19. I'm sorry sweetie - but I really only talked about Stanford and Anthony

They were minor characters

[ceile]

21. I did.

Enjoyed it, but way too long.

[LynneSin]

22. there were some things that could have been cut out

I wasn't overly keen on the personal assistant especially when they did the holiday montage and suddenly the assistant was part of the montage too. Sure Jennifer Hudsen played a vital role in getting Carrie over Big but I think there were other ways it could have been managed without all that extra filler time.