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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:26 AM
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Poll question: Lizzie Borden: Innocent....or guilty?
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 10:29 AM by brentspeak
The accused (later declared 'not guilty') Lizzie Borden:



Victim: Tight-fisted father, AJ Borden:



Victim: The hated step-mother, Abby Borden:



The (witness) maid, Bridget "Maggie" Sullivan:

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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:54 AM
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1. My favorite take on Lizzie Borden (the maid did it):
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:01 PM
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6. That was very interesting
Thanks.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:56 PM
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7. oooo good article
ty!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:09 PM
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12. That is fascinating...
Wiki has this little tidbit about Sullivan:

While ill with pneumonia, and fearing that her death was near, Sullivan allegedly summoned a friend to her bedside because she had something to reveal. By the time the woman arrived, however, Sullivan was recovering and said it was nothing. She did remark that she always liked Lizzie Borden.

Maybe she was about to confess?

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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:07 AM
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2. Semantic niggling here but
"Not guilty" is not the same as "innocent."
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:18 AM
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3. guilty
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q6xjaliMSH8
Lizzy Borden - We Got The Power
(of bad hair and shitty metal)
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KatyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:27 AM
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4. From the article:
"The flapdoodle, gush, idiotic drivel, misrepresentations and in some instances, anarchic nonsense..."


You just don't get good flapdoodle or gush anymore do you?
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:51 AM
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5. I doubt she was 'innocent'
If she didn't 'whack' them personally, she was probably complicit with the maid from what I've read about the case.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:18 PM
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8. Lizzie Borden took an ax and gave her mother forty whacks;
When she saw what she had done She gave her father forty-one.

Someone thought she was guilty.

For some reason I can see school girls jumping rope to that rhyme. Do you think they did?
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:23 PM
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9. 'Cause you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Yesterday in old Fall River, Mr. Andrew Borden died
And they got his daughter Lizzie on a charge of homicide
Some folks say she didn't do it, and others say of course she did
But they all agree Miss Lizzie B. was a problem kind of kid


'Cause you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Not even if it's planned as a surprise
No, you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
You know how neighbors love to criticize

She got him on the sofa where he'd gone to take a snooze
And I hope he went to heaven 'cause he wasn't wearing shoes
Lizzie kinda rearranged him with a hatchet so they say
Then she got her mother in that same old-fashioned way!

But you can't chop your mama up in Massachusetts
Not even if you're tired of her cuisine
No, you can't chop your mama up in Massachusetts
You know it's almost sure to cause a scene

Well, they really kept her hoppin' on that busy afternoon
With both down- and up-stairs chopping while she hummed a ragtime tune
They really made her hustle and when all was said and done
She'd removed her mother's bustle when she wasn't wearing one

Oh, you can't chop your mama up in Massachusetts
And then blame all the damage on the mice
No, you can't chop your mama up in Massachusetts
That kind of thing just isn't very nice

Now, it wasn't done for pleasure and it wasn't done for spite
And it wasn't done because the lady wasn't very bright
She'd always done the slightest thing that mom and papa bid
They said, "Lizzie, cut it out," so that's exactly what she did

But you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
And then get dressed and go out for a walk
No, you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Massachusetts is a far cry from New York

No, you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Shut the door, and lock and latch it, here comes Lizzie with a brand new hatchet
Can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Such a snob, I've heard it said, she met her pa and cut him dead
You can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Jump like a fish, jump like a porpoise, all join hands and habeas corpus
Can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Massachusetts is a far cry from New York
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:36 PM
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10. Yeah she did it and who could blame her?
I'm glad she got off.

Khash.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:36 PM
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11. Yeah she did it and who could blame her?
I'm glad she got off.

Khash.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:06 PM
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13. s/k
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