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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:25 PM
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This Fundy chick I know is having sex with this guy and then she
tells him that they shouldn't be doing "it" :wtf: is up with that??

I think she is trying to "guilt" trip him into marrying her.

What does "teh Lounge" think?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:38 PM
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1. Did he finish the job?
:hide:

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:01 AM
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16. actually NO
according to her, he can not FINISH.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:22 AM
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26. Maybe that's the real explanation
She's either searching for an excuse to stop doing it with the guy because he can't come; or she sees his inability to climax as a sign from God.
Why would she want to marry him if the sex is no good? Is she looking for a sexless marriage?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:28 AM
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28. I really don't know....
what she is looking for. She is stuck so far up her bible she can't see straight. Please don't get me wrong. Dogmatic, I think is perhaps the right word for her.

It is to the point that I really don't want her to talk with me about it. I think she is playing games with him and ipso facto with herself.

I want to be a supportive friend but, this is beyond me.

I think she is tired of being alone.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:31 AM
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31. Why are you friends with her?
We all have friends that we outgrow. It doesn't sound like you have much in common with her.
Also, you attribute a really bad motivation to her -- playing with him, etc. If you think she is so manipulative, perhaps it's time to distance yourself from her.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:57 AM
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32. well,
We go back MANY years. I think I will try to be tactful and if she asks my opinion again, I will tell her that I think she is being manipulative. Perhaps she is capable of growing and learning from this. She tends to be religious whereas I tend to be spiritual. She does listen though and she does think about what I say and she is there for me when I need her. Friendship is a two-way street. lord knows, I am far from perfect.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:32 PM
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60. CAN not finish... or is not PERMITTED to finish?
On a side note, I'll bet all that protein is good for your hair. Just a thought. Not nice one, but a thought nonetheless.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:40 PM
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2. If she thinks they shouldn't be doing it
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 10:41 PM by ThomCat
then she shouldn't be doing it. If she's choosing to do it, then she shouldn't be trying to make anyone else feel guilty about it.

:shrug:

I think you might be right. If she's trying to guilt him then it's for a reason. Either she wants to convert him, or she wants something more serious in their relationship.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:02 AM
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17. Exactly!!
She is 43 and he is 46. Old enough to know how to remove theirselves from the "temptation"
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:42 PM
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3. I think anyone is entitled at any time to reconsider their decision to be sexually involved
could it be a manipulative maneuver? sure could be. Perhaps she thought she could handle it but can't. She's entitled to change her mind and to have that decision respected.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:50 PM
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5. That's a tough one to call.
Any time you're involved in something as personal and passionate as that, it awfully hard to shut the motor off instantaneously.

And yes it has happened, but it's tough.

:hi:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:05 AM
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19. If a person knows they are going to be tempted, then why put
theirself in the situation? Especially, if they are walking "the christian walk" ?? :wtf: :puke:

I think it is hypocritical but, what the fuck do I know?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:35 PM
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62. Actually, it's a real easy one to call.
No means no.

It's not considerate to go to 11:59 and then call the game off, but it's entirely permissible and the call must always be respected.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:52 PM
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6. Good answer!
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:03 AM
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18. Over and Over again ??
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:51 AM by Tuesday Afternoon
Every time ??

And she tells him BEFORE they do it...

"We shouldn't be doing this".... :WTF:

She is 43 y/o for gawds sake.

have sex.
feel guilty.
make him feel guilty.
have sex again and again.
feel guilty again and again.
make him feel guilty again and again.

Broken record anyone?

Real learning experience. :eyes:
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:57 AM
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33. Guilt...
is how "Christian fundamentalists" operate. WHy should it be any different in any aspects of their lives?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:08 AM
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34. trudat
what was I thinking :D
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:52 AM
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41. It is a shame really...
Guilt serves to lower their self esteem and keeps them in the loop of guilt so they keep coming back to the church for more guilt...

It is sad.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:55 AM
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43. It is bizarre. She keeps inviting me to her church. Thanks but,
No thanks. He attends one of those stripmall churches of a denomiation where women are not allowed to speak :wtf: :rofl:
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:57 AM
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45. That is really sad...
If you want to have fun with her, next time she asks you to go, just look really sad and heartbroken and say no, but I will pray for you...

That ought to confuse her...

it is a little bit mean though, a nicer thing to do would be to help her build her self esteem to the point that she can see what that church is doing to her.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:04 AM
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47. well,
I just try to keep the conversation away from religion.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:07 AM
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49. That is easier I imagine...
but does nothing for her.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:11 AM
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50. the lord is her savior
I shall not interfere :crazy:
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 03:07 PM
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55. Actually, I like that.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:42 PM
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63. Which one?
My first or second suggestion?
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:11 AM
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64. Geez! I didn't realize how far down from the relevant post I'd be...
It was this one:

"If you want to have fun with her, next time she asks you to go, just look really sad and heartbroken and say no, but I will pray for you..."

That's the kind of twist of logic to confuse some people that I love.

It's almost a Zen koan.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:44 AM
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65. Yeah, that would be fun to do.
for sure.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:33 AM
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66. Thing is ----
The irony of it all would be lost on her...she thinks in fundamental terms.
She is really a nice person...just lost her way a bit on relationships.
Haven't we all done that, at one time or another?
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:39 PM
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67. Well, I agree with you that her thinking is very fundamental...
I have never tried to guilt anyone I was having a sexual relationship with into doing whatever it is I wanted them to do. I am an adult. her behavior is bordering on psychotic and is a sign she needs help.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:49 AM
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30. oops
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:50 AM by Tuesday Afternoon
already responded.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:47 PM
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4. how is it that 1) you know about it....and
2) how is it any of your fucking business?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:58 AM
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14. you know, Skittles ...
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:31 AM by Tuesday Afternoon
I will kick your ass!!

I know about it because she told me about it. And I can think and wonder about anything I want.

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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:28 PM
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7. That's so hot...
Not the marrying part, but the "Oh, this is so wrong, Jesus is watching..." part.

And I'm a Jew! Philip Roth was right...

:hide:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:42 AM
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13. Well, if you're Jewish, God could still be watching. :silly: nt
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:06 AM
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20. oh lord
:rofl:

god is watching you take a dump, too ;)
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:31 PM
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8. Been there, done that.
Sigh...

That was a long time ago...

IBIL.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:07 AM
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21. exactly ...
what a childish little scenario !!
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:31 PM
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9. Been there, done that.
Sigh...

That was a long time ago...

IBIL.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:38 PM
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10. Not enough information to make a judgment about it.
At this point, I'd just say stay out of it.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:08 AM
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22. yeah...
unfortunately, she tells me every little detail and then asks me what I think :puke:

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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:41 PM
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11. This thread is useless without video.....
...:D
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:00 AM
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15. she webcams, too
:shrugs:

:D
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:22 AM
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12. It happened to me . I was simply amazed....I mean, I didn't know Chicks could talk.
:spank: :spank: :spank:

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:08 AM
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23. *groan*
:D

:hi:
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:15 AM
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24. i like sex
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:19 AM
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25. me too
damn if I am going to feel guilty about it :wtf:
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:27 AM
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27. it's even better with other people
or so i hear
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:29 AM
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29. April Fools !!
:rofl:
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:11 AM
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51. I like pumpkin pie...
I like pumpkin pie. (A LOT!) A ate an entire pumpkin pie on Saturday-- I felt pretty guilty about it afterwards...
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:28 AM
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52. but,
did you make the pumpkin feel guilty, too ?
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:02 PM
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53. I dunno. I left before the pie woke up...
I dunno. I left before the pie woke up...
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:39 AM
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35. Send her my way?
:rofl: :rofl:

:hi:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:48 AM
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37. Aren't you in California?
She used to live there...you missed your chance. :D
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:49 AM
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38. Oregon
:hi:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:52 AM
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40. oops
close...

Want I send you her contact info :D :crazy: :rofl:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:54 AM
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42. I will show her the real bible
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl:


The LONG version :woohoo: :woohoo: :hi:
:rofl:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:56 AM
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44. I am sure your --
rod and your staff will comfort her ;)
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:43 AM
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36. IT is still an excellent field in which to find employment
Is she looking to get married so she doesn't have to work outside the home?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:51 AM
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39. To be honest,
I think YES. It is her biggest gripe about her divorce. She was not working out of the home and now she is. I don't know if you were joking or not.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:57 AM
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46. Yes, I was joking.........
but, I work at home and appreciate it mightily.....
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:05 AM
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48. oh lord
:rofl:
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:56 PM
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54. That shows how brilliant she is.
Not!
Only a Fundy could get it that ass-back-wards.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:18 PM
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58. Love that smilie !!
:loveya:

:hi:
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 03:40 PM
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56. guilt is a fabulous basis for a marriage
(it is April Fool's Day, right?)
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:17 PM
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57. bwahahahahaha...I wish.
I started this thread before 4/1. This is sad but true.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:23 PM
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59. I had a non-fundy GUY pull that on me.
I had no clue why he kept doing it if he felt guilty about it(and it was annoying), so I dumped him.

I've never understood how anyone could use sex as a tool to ply a commitment from someone; it had the reverse effect on me.

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:33 PM
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61. exactly....
I don't care how good the sex was -- STFU !!

It annoys me just to hear her talk about telling him. He is a weird-o, Limbaugh DittoHead anyway. They deserve each other, to be honest about it.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:51 PM
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68. Having been a Fundy, I say
She's a master manipulator. She lives on guilt -- thrives on it -- and feels compelled to spread it around.

And she is a hypocrite. But of course, that's obvious.
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