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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:48 PM
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Poll question: The more egregious post hoc meddler?
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:48 PM
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1. You gotta know what my vote was.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:51 PM
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2. Sure, if that's really you
I'll bet you've seen things that we people wouldn't believe.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:51 PM
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3. Better believe it
:hi:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:03 PM
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4. Kick, because I just watched EPIII
For no good reason.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:05 PM
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5. Star Wars 1-3 could certainly USE some post-hoc meddling!
:scared:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:43 PM
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6. I would suggest that the reason....
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 10:45 PM by turtlensue
has to do with the fact that you have questionable reasoning abilities?
:shrug:

And please, need one even ask? Its George Lucas, hands down.

On edit: kicking for vanity reasons perhaps oh mighty axis of the universe?;-)
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:24 PM
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7. See, here's the problem
Lucas' biggest fuck-up in terms of post hoc meddling was, of course, "Greedo Shoots First." By making this change, Lucas trivialized the personal impact of Han's involvement in the Rebellion. In the original cut, Han explicitly starts as a guy who shoots first before any questions can be asked; in the end he becomes a part of something much larger than himself, and in so doing he grows as a character. When Greedo shoots first, this evolution is nullified, so that Han starts as a nice guy who does some stuff and ends the trilogy as a nice guy. The impact of Lucas' meddling is confined primarily to one character.

But when Scott mucks about after the fact with all of that is-he-or-isn't-he bullshit, he deprives the film of all of its essential power. Far worse than undermining a single character, Scott obviates the film's entire purpose. PKD's drug-addled corpse should rise up and throttle Scott for totally fucking up the point of the story. (And then the corpse should kick Verhoven's ass for Total Recall. And for Showgirls, while we're at it, and Basic Instinct and Starship Troopers. Those last three aren't based on PKD's writings, but when a vengeful zombie stalks the Earth, there's no sense returning it to the grave while there's still work to be done.)

Sure, other examples of Lucas' meddling can be cited (Jabba's near-verbatim repetition of Greedo's dialogue; the digital insertion of Young Anakin's ghost in the closing sequence; the general revision of the SFX), but these are insignificant compared to the willful and wholesale destruction of Bladerunner perpetrated by Scott.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:35 PM
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8. Did DaVinci change "The Potatoe Eaters"? Or did Cezanne alter "Les baigneurs au repos "
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 11:36 PM by leeroysphits
Did they?

Well?

So why should the likes of Kubrick alter one of his greatest masterworks such as Jaws?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:54 AM
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9. Did Leonardo really spell "potatoe" like that?
But now that I think of it, the post hoc changes to ET: The Extraterrestrial probably earn Spielberg a bit of scolding, too.
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