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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:30 PM
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Why do actors like Peter O'Toole ALWAYS shout?
Watched "Becket" with O'Toole and Burton, and Burton didn't have to shout so much. ;)

Talk about chewing the scenery.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:35 PM
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1. O'Toole was just a shoutin' son-of-a-gun in his guise as Henry II.
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 03:43 PM by Aristus
Half his screentime in "The Lion In Winter" is taken up with shouting. Spraying saliva, too. That's commitment to a role. B-) Henry even says in the film, to get the best of an arguement between two kings, use all your voices. If he bellows, bellow back.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:42 PM
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4. Exactly
Henry II, as characterized in "Becket" and "The Lion in Winter", is a very forceful man. Peter O'Toole captured his character beautifully.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:46 PM
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6. The real Henry II, however forceful or militarily capable he may have been,
was also fairly progressive for his time. Instead of taking for granted the peasants and farmers who provided the wealth and income for the landed gentry, he actually tried to ensure they received justice and were treated fairly. Not a common attitude among the nobles of the time, or of today, for that matter...
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:47 PM
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7. You Jeopardy contestants are always a fount of knowledge!
I didn't know that about Henry II. Thanks.

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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:54 PM
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9. Too bad my fount isn't larger; I might have won the game...
B-)
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quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:39 PM
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2. Two things:
1. There isn't any other actor like Peter O'Toole.
b. Peter O'Toole is a comedic genius.

:hi:
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:40 PM
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3. Did you ever see him in "The Stuntman"?
Camping it up all over the place - he stole the movie!
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:33 AM
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18. Comedic genius
Three words: My Favorite Year.
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quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:58 PM
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20. Agreed.
I haven't seen "The Stuntman" yet, but it appears that I should! :hi:
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:29 PM
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21. Yes you should. That crazy brilliant Irishman was right in his element. n/t
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:18 PM
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24. Oh, you should, you should...
...One of my Top Ten movies of all time, thanks largely to Peter, who parodies brilliantly all the egomaniacal directors he'd worked with.

"In 22 seconds, I could break your FUCKING spine. In 22 seconds, I could pinch your head off like a fucking INSECT and spin it all over the fucking pavement. In 22 seconds, I could put 22 bullets inside your RIDICULOUS gut. What I seem UNABLE to do in 22 seconds is to keep you from RUINING MY FILM!"

Eli Cross IS God, never mind what the screenwriter says.

(Also check out "The Ruling Class.")
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:39 PM
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22. "I'M NOT AN ACTOR, I'M A MOVIE STAR!!!"
B-)
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:16 PM
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23. That one never grows old and
"Hey, this is for ladies!"

"So is this, ma'am, but every so often I have to run a little water through it." (Sound of fly being zipped up)

:rofl:
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:26 PM
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25. No doubt...coming soon from Netflix
:toast:
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:42 PM
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5. Stage training perhaps?
Projection into the audience.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:51 PM
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8. They yell so that foreigners can understand them.
Then you don't have to pay for subtitles for the overseas release.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:40 PM
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10. The roles always should have been reversed
#2 O'TOOLE should have had multiple Oscars again and again.


It was SO touching a few years ago when the fake Academy approached him about accepting an honorary Oscar, and he replied, so humble (and SO BITCHY), "Oh, I might have time to EARN it!1"
(paraphrasing)
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:44 PM
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11. Sidebar: "actors like Peter O'TOOLE" ------uh, who would THAT be?!1 n/t
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:25 AM
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12. Cause he fucking rules
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:09 AM
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13. O'Toole is one of the very best ... see "Venus" for a quiet role
He doesn't shout at all, but gives a remarkably subtle performance. A great recent film.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:28 AM
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14. He used to be SO hot


Who cares if he shouted?
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:35 AM
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19. Those eyes .... I'll be in my bunk. n/t
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:42 AM
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15. as a side note....
doesnt Peter O'Toole sound like a porn name?
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GigiMommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:09 AM
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16. One of my Fav Peter O'Toole "shouting" scenes...
with Eli Wallach next to a helicopter shouting "TOGETHERNESS" in "How to Steal a Million". Funny.

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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:29 AM
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17. As a matter of fact, Henry II did just that
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 10:40 AM by sarge43
In a rage (his rages were legendary) he would throw himself on the floor and chew the carpet.

My problems with Becket are many:

Becket as a champion of the downtrodden English (even hinting he was English). Hardly. There is absolutely no evidence he even noticed them; no reason he should have. Further, he was by descent a middle class Norman. Henry on the other did have a touch of the Bloke. Though his mother he was a direct descendant of the Anglo-Saxon kings.

Henry terrified of the sight of blood? Please. He was a hands on warrior all his life.

Eleanor as a whining frump: She was glamorous, intelligent, formidable. A whiny frumpy wife normally doesn't incite a revolt, especially by the children and a husband doesn't have to throw such a wife in jail.

If Pete and Dick were overacting and I agree they were, that's the director's fault. Directors control the volume.

(typo)
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:28 PM
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26. Insh'Allah. nt
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:36 PM
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27. One of O'Toole's best!/NT
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:42 PM
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28. Because he is a THESPIAN!
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:45 PM
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29. he's a great actor, for sure........
it's just in the last two movies I've seen, he was always barking. ;)

maybe just the character. :)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:50 PM
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30. Actually, I was mocking the whole Idea of those stagey British actors...
like O'Toole, Richard Harris, Burton, Olivier, Branagh, etc...
For the most part, I really don't care for that approach
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:33 PM
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31. I will guess that it may come from having acted on the stage.
But, it's just a guess.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:37 PM
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32. HEY! Peter O'Toole is very soft spoken in 'Lord Jim' - which is a great flick btw.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:36 PM
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33. Also underplayed it in The Last Emperor.
O'Toole generally was casted as larger than life characters, so he'd played them larger than life.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:39 PM
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34. That's it, you just made it to my ignore list.....
...:P ;-)
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