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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:19 AM
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Long post--we almost lost our cat Lily. Weak stomachs, beware.
I hadn't posted about this yet because I wasn't sure what the outcome would be until now.

Last summer we found a kitten trapped inside the engine compartment of a Mazda Miata that was parked near the neighborhood swimming pool. We managed to help her wiggle out, and took her home to clean her up and keep her safe until we figured out who she belonged to. She was very healthy, no fleas, well-fed, so we thought she was obviously someone's inside kitten that had escaped and gone wandering. We posted signs all over the neighborhood, but nobody ever called to claim her--so we dosed her with some of the FrontLine we had here at the house and decided to keep her. We named her Lily.

Lily is one of the most affectionate cats we've ever had, and has claimed our bedroom as her exclusive domain, much to the annoyance of the two neutered males that also live here. She gets along well enough with one of them (the one we call "Dori") but doesn't like our largest male (Poe) at all. Poe tolerates her and avoids/ignores her for the most part, but Lily is notorious for picking spats with Poe if he tries to come into the bedroom--HER room. We're hoping she'll eventually grow out of it.

Anyway, sometime during the middle of December, we're guessing that Lily must have gotten into a bit of a tiff with Poe, because she had a small bite wound (just pinprick scabs by the time we found it) on her right rear flank area. I didn't think anything of it at the time, because it was so minor--I put some topical antibiotic ointment on it and she seemed perfectly fine. When I found the wound, it was already scabbed, she didn't complain if I touched it (so it wasn't painful), and it looked like it would be healed within a day or two.

It did heal...but then an abscess started forming underneath of it. I kept an eye on it, but it was very small, and since we're pretty much broke until our student aid comes next week, a Vet visit was out of the question. (I did call and ask the Vet's office person if we could bring her in and pay for it in January, but she said "No, payment is required at the time of service." They do have a payment plan, but it's only for people who have really good credit, and we don't.) The lump stayed small for about a week, but on Christmas Eve I noticed that it was getting a lot bigger, and Lily was starting to shiver, run a fever, and lose her appetite. One of her eyes was getting a little "cloudy" too--I still don't know why, but I guessed at the time that there was a chance the infection was starting to spread through her body. She wouldn't eat or drink, her face looked a little swollen, she was stumbling and weaving when she tried to walk, she was yowling in pain and misery, and constantly shivering. It was terrifying how a simple small lump turned into *that* in less than 24 hours. I was absolutely convinced that she was going to die if I didn't do something fast.

I called the Vet again--again, they refused to let us bring her in now and pay later. I called three other Vets and got the same answer. (I'm not bashing Vets--I know they need to be paid. I'm just making sure everyone here understands that we did at least *try*.) All of them said that she was unlikely to survive without Vet care, and one of them told us as kindly as she could that the local shelter would likely euthanize her for free if it got to the point where she was suffering too much. But I couldn't stand the thought of giving up that easily.

However, I was desperate at this point. I went online Christmas Eve and looked up "feline abscess" to see if I could find some directions on how to deal with it at home until we got our money and could afford to pay the Vet. Apparently the usual procedure for dealing with a nasty abscess is for a Vet to lance it, drain it, wash it out, remove any infected tissue, and then put the cat on oral antibiotics until the wound closes on its own. I didn't dare try to lance it, because I didn't want to hurt more than I helped. But we *did* have an unfinished prescription for amoxicillin (in the form of hollow capsules with powder inside) that ThinkBlue1966 had gotten for a tooth abscess 7 months ago and didn't finish. Yes it was human medicine, but if I didn't do *something*, we were going to lose her, and I found plenty of websites that said amoxicillin is a common and safe antibiotic for cats.

I wrote down the "normal" dosage that a Vet would give after draining an abscess...then increased it, because she was fading fast, I couldn't drain it, and I had read that amoxicillin is pretty safe even at high doses. I figured she needed all the help she could get. We cut open the 500 mg capsules and used a knife to separate the powder into 5 equal portions (roughly 100mgs each). I mixed the powder into a tiny bit of canned cat food, scooped it up with my finger, and put the bit of food directly in her mouth (at this point, she wouldn't eat it on her own--she wouldn't eat ANYTHING). The website said to give 60 mgs once a day--I gave her 100 mgs roughly every 12 hours for the first 3 days. She didn't seem to be improving dramatically, but she did start eating the medicated food by herself, and she stopped getting worse. Her right eye was still cloudy, but it didn't look as swollen anymore, which was definitely a good sign.

About 4 days after we started the oral amoxicillin, the abscess (which at this point was nearly as big as a small tangerine) burst. There's no other word for it. She was laying down on her blanket in the bedroom, and all of the sudden she yowled a little, started trying to lick her side, and then there was just a huge mess of blood-tinged "stuff" all over the blanket and a gaping hole the size of a silver dollar in her side, and much, much larger than a silver dollar beneath the surface. At first I was relieved, because it was finally draining. But the hole it left behind was frightening. It looked like she'd been shot, it was so huge. It's a good thing I have a strong stomach. I Googled again, and found that I needed to rinse the hole out with an antiseptic solution and keep giving her oral antibiotics to help her fight off further infection until the hole closed on its own, so that's exactly what I did. I boiled some water and tossed in our turkey baster to sterilize it, then let it all cool. I mixed some of the boiled water with a little bit of rubbing alcohol (it's the only "antiseptic" we had), and used the sterilized turkey baster to squirt the solution into the hole until the water ran out clear. We did this every day until yesterday, as the hole kept getting shallower and shallower, and kept giving her the oral antibiotics too. Yesterday, I noticed that the hole looked like it was starting to close, so we stopped trying to rinse it out. Today it's down to the size of half a penny, and Lily is 100% back to her normal self. I'm going to keep giving her the antibiotics (although I lowered the dosage to 60 mg once a day about three days ago) until the hole has been 100% closed for at least 2-3 days.

I know that a lot of people in this world would probably consider me a terrible, neglectful, irresponsible person because I couldn't take her to the Vet when she really needed it. I know that those people would say that it was stupid to try and treat her at home, and I could have easily made it worse. But I did the absolute best that I could under the circumstances, and I'm pretty sure that it saved her life. ThinkBlue1966 and I both went without more than 3 hours of sleep at a time so we could be there to give her water when she didn't want to drink, carry her to the litter pan, coax her into eating when she didn't want to, boil water for cleaning several times a day, constantly pet and talk to her to keep her distracted so she wouldn't try to "lick" it so much, and keep her as warm and comfortable as possible. We lost one cat this past Fall when he slipped past us and got out the door, and got hit by a car before we could find him to bring him back in. I don't think I could have handled losing another. I was ashamed of the fact that we couldn't afford to take her to a real Vet when it all started, so I didn't talk about it here until now. But I wanted to share what we'd been going through, because I am so damned relieved and happy. It worked. We saved her. I couldn't save Byron, but I saved Lily. She is 100% healthy again. Her eyes are both clear and bright and back to normal, the hole is pretty much gone, and she's bouncing around the bedroom chasing her jingle ball as I'm typing this.

She's going to the Vet next week as soon as our student aid checks get here, so the Vet can take a look at it and tell us if there's anything else that needs to be done. When I tell him this story, he's probably going to tell me that it was more pure dumb luck than anything else, and I can handle that, because when he says it...Lily will still be there, alive and healthy.



Lily, taken last summer right on the day that we found her
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:32 AM
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1. Let me be the first to say WELL DONE!
Screw anyone who would condemn you for what you've done, I say BRAVO, and I would have done the same thing if I were in that situation!

Well done!
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:42 AM
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3. Thank you dotcosm
I feel absolutely euphoric right now, watching her back to her normal, healthy self. It's nothing short of a miracle, and I am SO freaking relieved and happy. :hug: :cry:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:49 AM
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7. In fact, I will even go further and say that you
went the extra mile in displaying what true "responsibility" of pet ownership means -- sure, taking our pets to the vet is the optimal (usually) course, but absent that, you actually did exactly what responsibility entails, which was to learn about the problem, to learn about the solution, and to diligently apply yourself to making it happen.

That is being responsible, so much more so than just plopping the animal in the car and driving them to a vet. Don't let anyone try to tell you otherwise! Grrrr, it burns me up that someone, a vet even, actually suggested that taking her to the animal shelter to be euthanized was a viable option, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Good.On.You!!
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:10 AM
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8. I think the Vet was only
trying to do what she thought was "humane". She knew we couldn't afford to bring her in, you know? And I might have done it too, eventually, if my best efforts amounted to nothing and she was suffering without hope of recovery. But I had to at least *try* first.

I'm just so glad she's going to be okay. For once, I'm *glad* that ThinkBlue1966 was a naughty girl who didn't finish her antibiotics like she should have. Otherwise, we wouldn't have had them for Lily when she needed them.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:37 AM
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2. Lucy loves you
Me, too. :loveya:



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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:44 AM
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4. Omg! you're here!
I've been trying to get Yahoo to sign in and it keeps telling me "There was a problem signing into Yahoo! Messenger. Please try again a little bit later." Argh!

I'll keep trying. In the meantime...thank you *and* Lucy. :loveya:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:47 AM
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6. Lucy does *not* love Yahoo
Neither do I. x(



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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:45 AM
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5. You did what you had to do
And you saved your beautiful kitty; I have nothing but respect for you and ThinkBlue1966 for what you did under bad circumstances, and I can't see anyone else would, either. Both of you are wonderful human beings :hug:
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:35 AM
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9. I think you did great. I was just thinking yesterday about how expensive
vets are and how many animals go without good treatment because of it. People can't go to the doctor for their own damn selves let alone a vet which routinely costs over $100 a pop. When you have 3 or 4 animals it can get insane.

I have checked around and I've found that some vets charge a LOT more than others. Now I go to a vet that has been in practice for a long time and keeps their costs low somehow, (and by low I mean expensive but not horrible). Anyway the point here is it is good to shop around.

I also save all my pets medications and I have given them stuff from their medicine closet when I know it will help. I think what you did with the antibiotics was great. I would do the same if I had to.

:grouphug: For all of you.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:45 AM
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10. Good job with your baby.
My cat had an abscess, from a bite her sister gave her and we did take her to the vet. It was bad as the antibiotics weren't strong enough and the vet did drain it with a needle but it refilled. We had to go back for more antibiotics. The cat was really sick for about three weeks even with 2 vet visit. I think you did a great job, congratulations.
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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:48 AM
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11. no, you are not irresponsible pet owners
you are beautiful people who went the extra step to save this poor baby- and you succeeded. She is a beautiful little girl and so lucky to have you. God bless you both. Please don't be ashamed about the fact that you didn't have the money- these are hard times. But! you went the extra mile and it worked! This beautiful girl is alive. I don't understand about this not taking payments. I know that doctors have been burned, but didn't they get into the business to help animals?

You might want to cross post this over on the pet forum; I suspect that there might be a lot of people who get as much as I did out of your post.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:11 AM
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12. I'm glad that your story had a happy ending. Lily would not have
survived if you had not been such a good pet owner. Having gone through a similar experience with a vet before, I commend you for your perserverence and for saving Lily's life. She's a very fortunate kitty.

:thumbsup:
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:27 AM
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13. I think you did a great job!
:thumbsup:

I had a similar situation with my pup last year. Well, he's 14 years old and not exactly a pup, but he is to me. But for years he has suffered terribly with ear infections and allergies. His ears got so scarred and necrotic that surgery was strongly recommended.

It was an $1800 surgery!!!! And he would be deaf after the surgery ;( And in my case, the vet would work out payments since I had been a good customer for so long. But I had to save half the down payment first and then she would take $100 a month after that.

It took me about 7 months to save the down payment, and i felt awful the whole time because he suffered the whole while. *sniff*

He had the surgery finally, and had an awful couple of days, but they kept him and gave him IV morphine. I guess since he is a little older he needed more recovery time.

Now he is a spry little pup again! I am so glad he got the surgery. He is deaf now, but it doesn't seem to bother him and he's a lot better off, happier, and healthier now.
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sazemisery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:36 AM
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14. Bravo, oktoberain and ThinkBlue1966, if no one will help you then you must...
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 08:37 AM by sazemisery
use the tools available to you and do the best you can for yourselves and your loved ones(human and otherwise). Google has been a miracle to me with all the strays I have taken in and nursed back to health. I have learned a lot over the years and have been blessed with a veterinarian that understands that sometimes a loss in profit will reap you rewards that will repay eventually. He is known to take fresh eggs for farm visits and would never refuse to help an animal in need because of the inability to pay for care immediately. I am appalled at the overall mentality of new veterinarians graduating from vet schools in my area. They want no large animal work, no "on call on nights and weekends", etc. The recent ads for "pet injury insurance" disgust me.

Sorry for the rant. I am so glad that your love of animals and your levelheadedness in the face of adversity has made your sweet Lily well again.


edited for lack of spell checking abilities.x(
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:33 AM
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15. Lily is beautiful, and she is truly blessed.
:thumbsup:

You did wonderfully, and I hope she stays well (and away from Poe)!
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:48 AM
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16. I'm sorry that you had to do this the hard way, oktoberaine, but...
you should be really proud of yourselves for what you did. Please don't feel anything less than that! :hug:

Your little girl is beautiful! :)

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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:06 AM
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17. .
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 11:08 AM by Coyote_Bandit
I grew up on a farm in a rural area with lots of animals - and no readily accessible veterinary care. Caring for ill and injured animals sometimes resulted in some interesting and drastic measures. More than once we brought sick calves into the house to sleep in front of a warm winter fireplace. More than once we made the sad decision to euthanize one of our animals - and to do the deed ourselves.

You did a fantastic job caring for your beautiful kitty. Lily's survival is not pure dumb luck. Any vet who tries to characterize it as such is in denial of the fact that emergency veterinary care was simply unavailable to Lily as she faced a serious threat to her very survival. Our veterinary care system also needs reform - and faces many common issues with our own heath care system.

Treasure the time you have with your beautiful kitty and enjoy her companionship. Be proud of your efforts and don't let anyone belittle them or make you feel somehow inferior. Even though you lacked the training, you cared for your fur baby when others with more resources and better training chose not to do so. Simple as that.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:38 PM
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18. Wow!
How CLEVER of you to figure out what needed to be done and do it! Bravo! :toast:
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:45 PM
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19. I'm truly amazed and in awe of the fact that you were able
to handle this the way you did. Your love and attention saved your cat's life. Not once but twice.
You found her, save #1. You doctored her save #2.

May you have many years of love and laughter with your gorgeous healthy pet.


:hug:

aA
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:56 PM
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20. You did well
My car, Buff, (1981-2000) never complained about her "owie" that was discovered by a neighbor kid petting her. She had an abscess on the inside of her left thigh.

I was broke at the time, and luckily did find a vet who would let me make payments.

She had a foxtail under her skin. Vet gave me anti-fungal med made for cow udders to shoot into her abscess and antibiotics. He also had me hot-pack the abscess 2-3 times a day...steaming hot rag applied to her owie.

Buff would yowl, but did not flinch when going through this. She seemed to know I was helping her.
(this is a cat that was brought to me with a broken pelvis when I had no money. Kept her on my heated waterbed, moved her to food and litter box and fed her OTC vitamins...she healed and was ever grateful)

The abscess burst, and Buff allowed for continued cleaning and care of it.
Took her back to the vet a week later (he was actually a farm animal country doc) and he said that he had never seen an animal recover and heal so quickly, and attributed it all to the constant attention and care she received.

You were brave and correct to follow through for you baby kitty.
Am glad she made it! :hug:
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:42 PM
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21. cat bites abscess quite often, and the abscess itself is very sneaky at first
as you found out. I almost lost a cat to an abscess and have had other cats to suffer them. Most likely it was from a bite. YOU DID GREAT! I congratulate you on your steadfastness and love for this kitty.

And she is a cutie too.


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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:53 PM
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22. I'm very glad you had the presence of mind to do everything right.
:hug:

I have had abscesses like that. They get huge! I cut open the first one, and had a surgeon cut open the second one. And, the mess was incredible. :(

I'm very glad that took such good care of Lily. :hug:

The doctors had no explanation for why a small infection can sometimes turn into an abscess. It's just something that sometimes happens. In my case, both times it was a small pimple that abscessed. but I've heard of it happening with small wounds too.
:shrug:
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easttexaslefty Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:58 PM
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23. I think you did great!
Good job!
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:31 PM
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24. you're a 'midvet" in the making
I'm glad to hear your lil girl is gonna be ok. I'm sorry about your other kittykat getting out and being hit by a car.

We have a small kitten too. and we have found some scabs on the top of his head. Nothing has resulted but it's scary as he just does not get along with the older female cat. We are really hoping they grow out of it. I think Agatha (older cat) is picking on Joaquin (kitten) because he's still a tiny bubble. It makes me so mad....

My deceased Kittyboy was once attacked by some street cats outside our apartment years ago. He got an abscess above his eye. The vet tied a string into the abscess to keep it draining while it healed. It was kinda funny to see the cat with a string sticking out of its forehead.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:58 PM
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25. think "abcess" if YOU ever get a cat bite, too
Most cat bites cause nasty infection. In humans, too. A human should seek medical treatment for any cat bite, according to ER docs.

My niece got a couple of bites on her arm when she intervened in a spat between two cats. That was two years ago. She had to have strong IV antibiotics administered twice daily; her arm swelled up with great sore lumps; she still has scars.

Do not think a cat bite will cure itself.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:06 PM
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26. What fantastic, wonderful, special people you are!
It's brilliant what you did and Lily is one lucky little kittah. You guys rock.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:22 PM
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27. Great job!
I don't think you're a horrible person at all. Quite the opposite, in fact.

When I was growing up, we had indoor-outdoor cats that got into fights all the time. My parents got sick of taking them to the vet for every single scratch or bite, so my mom (who is a nurse, so that helped) started taking care of them herself, much the same way you did.

We were fortunate enough to be able to take the cats to the vet if things got out of hand, but that doesn't mean we were any better pet owners than you are. You saved her life. Don't let anyone give you grief about how you did it.
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