Why do women do this to themselves?

[LibraLiz1973]

When plastic surgery goes REAL bad.
She was born in 1971 so she is only 2 years older than I, but looks about 15 years older.



Lorenzo Lamas' ex wife, Shauna Sand



Before

Last Night

[Scout]

1. yuck, she looks awful, and so is the outfit! n/t

[LibraLiz1973]

4. The stripper shoes always get me

Makes NO sense.

I totally understand why strippers wear them. But this? Eek.
She's 36. Time to stop dressing like a 19 year old.

[NewJeffCT]

50. actually

I don't even understand why strippers wear them... and, I went to a few strip joints between marriages.

[BarenakedLady]

2. I have no words...

:wow:

[Deja Q]

3. The self-inflating rescue raft is supposed to be yellow, not pink and lip-shaped.

"Before" is so much nicer.

[LibraLiz1973]

5. That's the thing... Before normally IS much better

Which is why I am always agog when women do this to themselves.

[Deja Q]

14. And don't forget Michael Jackson!

Circa 1980

Circa 2000

Circa 2005

[krispos42]

42. Thank you for not showing the pictures

I have to go to bed soon, and I don't want to have nightmares... :-)

[Deja Q]

57. The youtube videos speak far more for themelves, ironically.

Usually a picture says 1,000 words. Usually pictures are a load of bunk too... :D

[SoxFan]

56. Only in America

can a poor black boy grow up to be a rich white woman.

[MissMillie]

6. I have been trying to figure out women (in this regard) for a long time

what we are willing to do to ourselves, what we are willing to wear on our bodies.... all in the name of "looking good" "looking thin" "Looking younger"

by an overwhelming majority men don't behave this way. Men don't let the fashion industry dress them in pointed-toe shoes, pants w/ no pockets, unbreathable nylon or itchy lace undergarments....

[DarkTirade]

8. Actually that last part sounds like fun...

:evilgrin:

[raccoon]

43. Traditionally, women are judged by their looks, men by how much money they make/have.

That's changing, but slowly.

[devilgrrl]

7. I recently go into an argument with someone on another board over this...

I stated that I thought it was weird that most of the people who get cosmetic surgery are people who were already attractive and wondered what more could they want.

Some attractive woman responded "whatever I can get." So I wrote back saying that it must really suck being gorgeous.

[PeaceNikki]

9. It's not just women. Behold.

[u4ic]

18. Burt looks like a mannequin in that last picture

and the less said about the new Mickey Rourke, the better. :scared:

[Sugar Smack]

25. WHAT IN HELL did Mickey Rourke do to himself?

That looks like something from "Faces of Meth". :cry:

[TexasBushwhacker]

60. A combo of bad plastic surgery and a brief boxing career n/t

[Whoa_Nelly]

46. Have known a few older men to get their eyes done for vision reasons

Their eyelids were actually occluding their sight, and by lifting and tucking the eyelid, their vision was greatly improved.

Not defending the final look of those guys posted here, but could be one or two of them had that done for that reason.

[DarkTirade]

10. Yeah, I never got the big lips thing.

I like normal, natural lips. On someone who naturally has them, that's fine. On someone who naturally has small lips, that's fine too. But when it's obvious that you had to inject something in there to get them that size, then it's just a little weird.

[NJCher]

31. Leona Helmsley

Man, she always looked like somebody just smacked her in the kisser.



Cher

[devilgrrl]

11. Why do some men find women who do that to themself attractive.

In fact, why do so many find Pamela Anderson attractive? :crazy:

[DarkTirade]

12. I never really found her attractive either.

Don't get me wrong, I like big boobs as much as the next guy. Hell, my last serious relationship was with a girl who had a natural DD cup. But on her it just doesn't look right. Unbalanced. Didn't match the rest of her. Physical attraction is usually about symmetry, both in the bilateral symmetry sense, but also in the sense that the body parts work together rather than having one or two things stand out. With her, all you see is lips and boobs. And it stands out. Doesn't match. Throws everything off.

[devilgrrl]

13. Just between you and me.... penis size doesn't matter.

Just thought I'd let you know.

[DarkTirade]

16. Riiiiight... not sure how that relates to this discussion. :P

We're talking about outward appearances. And in most places you'll get arrested for giving that an outward appearance. :)

[devilgrrl]

19. I thought it was an expansion of the topic of cosmetic surgery...

there are radio commercials on the air advertising penis enlargement featuring a female voice over smugly asserting that "size matters". What I'm saying is, she's full of shit. That's all.

[DarkTirade]

20. Ah, I see.

For a minute there I thought maybe you'd been talking to my ex... :P

[raccoon]

45. I second that emotion.

As they say, it's not the size of the ship, it's the motion of the ocean.

[NewJeffCT]

48. However, a friend's sister came back once

and said, "but you can't go on the ocean with only a dinghy" after her brother had said size of the boat quote you said above.

needless to say, her brother turned pretty red...

[TexasBushwhacker]

64. Yeah, I was thinking, whoever came up with

"the size of the ship" saying was probably a man.

[Nevernose]

30. Most other men I know find Pamela overrrated

She's an intelligent woman who pretends to be a bimbo (frustrating), who is pretty at her WORST (this pic was apparently taken early one morning when she was taking the trash out):

For a 40 year old woman taking out the trash at 6 AM, that's pretty darn good looking :)

[devilgrrl]

35. She's pretty on her own - she didn't need the knife.

Neither did Farrah Fawcett, Melanie Griffith, etc... they were already attractive. :crazy:

[NewJeffCT]

49. Pam Anderson was pretty when she first came on the scene

wasn't she like a tool girl on Home Improvement with Tim Allen?

Of course, then came Playboy and Baywatch and the rest is history.

[supernova]

15. Insecurity

No matter how good looking somebody is, they are always looking to others for approval, instead of approving of themselves the way they are.

[gateley]

37. And if they've been oohed and ahhhhed over for most of their lives for q

their beauty, they may feel that's all they have to offer as a person. If they don't have their fresh, young looks, they may feel as though they have nothing of substance (ironically). Isn't that sad?

[SOteric]

17. I can't comment on why people opt for plastic surgery,

but I will say that in the top photo she looks so glamorous, but in the bottom photo, she looks trashy. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Trashy has its place.

[DarkTirade]

21. I agree. Trashy can be great.

I just happen to prefer women who aren't made of plastic. :)

[supernova]

22. Trashy is fun sometimes

But she looks about 15 years older than she really is. :-(

[Mike03]

23. I thought this might be a post about anorexia nervosa, bulimia, or self-mutilation.

Cosmetic surgery is not that big a mystery, is it? Men are getting it too, in record numbers.

A lot more work needs to be done on eating disorders and self mutilation.

[LibraLiz1973]

24. Sorry my post wasn't good enough for you

Just for the record, I think extreme plastic surgery is a pretty severe form of self mutilation.

[Connonym]

32. and a potentially deadly form of self-mutilation at that

In my mind, it's all falls under the category of dysmorphic body image and low self-esteem combined with sad attempts to gain control over life in any way you can. I would imagine these behaviors often coexist in the same person.

[BlueIris]

26. Misogynist media run amok.

[Sugar Smack]

27. Easy target, but Jocelyn Wildenstein.

Before:


After:

[Name removed]

28. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[supernova]

33. ....

:rofl:

I think she was uncomfortable with being pretty, and made herself ugly on purpose. :crazy:

[DarkTirade]

36. That's really rather frightening.

I can't imagine how much synthetic material is in her body at any given time.

[Sugar Smack]

68. The pic scared the hell out of me the first time

I saw it.:o

[bridgit]

53. EEEEEEK! And just in time for Halloween...

:scared:
:hi:

[graywarrior]

62. OMG, I love you that pic! ! ! !

[Sugar Smack]

69. OK, that was really, really funny.

:loveya: Mine Grandmaster. We shall talk soon, m'love. :D

[Starbucks Anarchist]

29. I don't know, but I wish they'd stop.

[NJCher]

34. Why do women do this to themselves?

A few:
a) they think they have nothing better to do
b) think they aren't good enough "as is"
c) think they need it to haul in a "catch," meaning mwm (male with money)
d) aren't bright enough to figure out it's a fool's errand
e) bought into somebody else's standard of beauty



Cher

[gateley]

38. And another one bites the dust - Robert Redford! I was at the web site for

his upcoming film, and I was really disappointed to see he'd succumbed. I so admired him for not buying into that crap.

[Fire Walk With Me]

39. Everyone likes exaggerated lips.

[SeattleGirl]

40. Now THAT is sad!

Very sad. That is definitely a "When Plastic Surgery Goes Wrong" picture. :cry:

[XemaSab]

41. The thing I really don't get is the lip collagen

Like, nobody has a bad MOUTH.

Some people have bad hair or a big nose or a weak chin or baggy eyes or wrinkles or fat or whatever, but bad LIPS? :shrug:

[Pithlet]

52. I don't get it either.

Naturally full lips are beautiful. So far they haven't perfected the technique, and artificial lips look awful. I've yet to see a single instance where collagen lips looked beautiful and natural. I'll often see an actress I think is beautiful completely ruin her face with this procedure.

[XemaSab]

54. Naturally full lips are beautiful

but take Jennifer Anniston for example... thin lips never really seemed to hurt her career any. :*

[pippin]

44. Those eyes, those lips . . .

them boobs! Yuck!



http://www.gt.se/polopoly_fs/1.741717!slot100slotWide75ArticleFull/3447786819.jpg

[ironflange]

47. OK, gang, here's the definitive website

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/

Hours and hours of fun, provided you have a rather ghoulish definition of what fun is.

[TexasBushwhacker]

59. True, but I think they exaggerate

There are some people they have on there where the pictures are just taken at a different angle, in a different dress, etc. For example, they have "before and after" pics of Chris Evert up right now and they look pretty much the same to me.

[GirlinContempt]

61. Yeah

and Hillary Duffs pics just look like shes wearing a corset or something that pushes he breasts up. and a couple more, I can't tell the difference.

[redqueen]

51. They've succumbed to the media's definition of 'beauty' for women.

It's a sad double standard... but it's there. For women who work in and around that business, I'm sure the message is received with much more intensity.

[SarahB]

55. Fair, blonde women need to stay out of the sun!

It makes them old before their time and then they get "work" to fix it and look worse. Stay out of the sun, be a reasonably healthy weight for your body type (not too underweight or overweight) and don't smoke. Seriously, I don't know why some women do this.

[pitohui]

70. life is not worth living hiding from the sun all the time

you don't know why "some women" do this, well, guess what, all women aren't indoor hothouse flowers who hide indoors until the sun sets

some of the most beautiful women i know as far as what's in their heads and what's in their hearts have wrinkles, why, because they get outdoors and get involved with the environment

sunscreen doesn't work, it keeps you from getting sunburned that day, but it does not protect against wrinkles if you actually work and live outdoors, indoor women can be smug because they don't know that because they never do anything worth doing anyway -- they buy into a lot of smug horseshit and miss out on their entire lives as a result

life for vital women can't be just teevee, internet, and a cubicle

[SarahB]

75. Wow, typical nasty response

Pyscho, hyper-reactive crap like this is why I rarely post, but this is pretty usual from what I remember of you so :boring:. Someone takes something someone says and twists around as an attack. Yes, those of us with indoor jobs are not vital women doing anything worthwhile. I'll tell that to my cancer patients. I'll have wrinkles all too soon myself, but I'm not going to bake in the sun for the sake of vanity with a strong family history of skin cancer. That's just stupid.

[NewWaveChick1981]

58. Insecurity.

:shrug:

[graywarrior]

63. The scariest I have ever seen

[pippin]

65. WHO IS THIS WOMAN?

Her pictures have been posted several times on DU . Horrible implants on a skeletal body. What a way to grow older! Ugh!

[Quantess]

66. Yikes!

She's younger than I am, by a year. Apparently I've aged a lot better than she has! I wonder if she does a lot of hard drugs?
Well, at least she still has nice legs, poor woman.

[pitohui]

67. she looks terrific

if you think she looks old and ugly as is, then you wouldn't have liked her if she just let herself go and age naturally either, you just have cruelly unreal expectations for the human female body and you will never be happy with any woman over about age 16

in my view the outfit is low class but she has one hell of a body, and she's apparently a show biz type (i don't actually know who she is) so i guess she feels she has to flaunt it for business/financial/promotional as well as personal reasons

[NorthernSpy]

71. terrific if she were 20 years older, maybe...

If she had "just let herself go", she'd have lost the hard body, but ironically she'd probably have a younger face.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

72. I really hate the Ho Nouveau look...

:puke:

[Awsi Dooger]

73. Shauna Sand is famous for a few things at every Glamourcon appearance

* Always wearing absurd outfits

* So much makeup it's scary

* Charging obscene prices for autographs and other memorabilia. She'll charge $50 when other Playmates are in the $10 to $20 range

[KG]

74. i'd hit it!

:hi:

[applegrove]

76. Why is she dressed as a stripper? Hard times?

[Ellen Forradalom]

77. I'm eight years older than she is

and look eight years younger than she does.

I'd post lingerie pics to prove it but I'd be eating marble pizza in a hurry!
:evilgrin: