Just had a big fight with hubby over Bush: Stupid or conniving?

[Colorado Progressive]

I think he's dumb as a brick and controlled by Cheney and Rove. Hub thinks he has a brain of his own, and is capable of being conniving all on his own. What do you think?

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

1. As my sister in law says,

Dumb as a box of rocks.

[Colorado Progressive]

2. I agree! Like a rock, only dumber. nt

[Shakespeare]

3. Other--conniving and lazy.

There's a different between stupidity and willfull ignorance/lack of curiosity.

[XemaSab]

4. Here:

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/presidents/george-w-bush/

[Colorado Progressive]

9. That was scary. Why do you want me to cry? nt

[Catchawave]

5. Pure dumb, because conniving would require some

intelluctual curiosity?

[Colorado Progressive]

11. Exactly! nt

[EFerrari]

6. Can't he be both dumb as a doorknob AND conniving?

:shrug:

[Colorado Progressive]

12. Holy crap. How does one counter this? nt

[EFerrari]

15. Are you old enough to remember Herb on WKRP?

That's who Junior reminds me of -- only without the cool plaid polyester suits. :P

[Colorado Progressive]

26. Actually I vaguelly remember him, but not old enough to realize what he represented.

But if Bush would out that suit on at least we would all get some comic relief!

[EFerrari]

27. Alternately, marnieworld calls him "President Fredo"

who was dumb as a post and conniving.

[Colorado Progressive]

28. I could use comic relief on that level.......

[QMPMom]

7. I think he is pretty dumb and not smart enough to

survive without handlers in the league he chose to insert himself. He is definitely conniving and I think that one of the main reasons he chose to run for president was to stick it to his Daddy and Jeb. He knew Jeb was the chosen one so he finagled a way to ruin any chance that Jeb had to be president. I really don't think he had any real desire to actually *be* president, he just didn't want his baby brother to outshine him - again.

Like my husband has said, pretty much anyone could do a better job of being president that GW Bush*.

[Colorado Progressive]

14. Good points. Stupid and conniving should have been part of the poll! nt

[NMDemDist2]

8. Other, I think he's sly, devious and cunning

but stupid

[DarkTirade]

10. I say both.

One doesn't cancel the other out... although the stupidity does make him less talented in the conniving area.

[Lisa]

13. cunning (and even focused!) if it's something he feels will benefit him

Anything else, he just tunes out.

[Maccagirl]

21. We have a winner!

Every book written about him points out how focused he is when his paranoia and hubris takes over (which is about 90% of the time). Like anyone with a huge ego (but low self-esteem) he surrounds himself with sycophants.

[Colorado Progressive]

24. Does it bring intelligence in to play?

[Lisa]

16. oh, and something else -- Bush is definitely not worth having a fight over!

He would probably be smirking if he thought he was contributing to dissent (he's such a uniter!).

[Colorado Progressive]

18. How right you are! I just couldn't believe when hub said

"the biggest mistake people make is assuming Bush is stupid." I believe he is truly a dipshit, just born priveleged.

[Lisa]

23. he reminds me of a girl in my Grade 8 class ...

Her grades were rock-bottom, mainly because she just never bothered to try, because she spent much of the time picking fights with the other kids, or getting in the teacher's face. But she was incredibly resourceful and cunning, when it came to bullying. She watched carefully and knew EXACTLY what to do, to humiliate people or make them angry enough to take a swing at her (whereupon she would retaliate with devastating force). She made one of my friends cry, by whispering a comment about her little brother, about whom she was very protective.

[Colorado Progressive]

25. Wow. So glad high school is gone forever! nt

[Haole Girl]

17. Want to know the truth?

* is brain damaged from too many drugs. That, of course, is simply IMHO.

[Colorado Progressive]

19. Yes, you are correct. You deserve an award of some sort for pointing it out. nt

[tandot]

20. If you fight with your hubby about Bush's stupidity...the terrorist have won...

:evilgrin:


I think he is a mix of both.

[Colorado Progressive]

22. LOL! That was their plan all along! nt

[dpbrown]

29. Bush is a sociopathic megalomaniac who thinks he's been put on earth to change history

Within that framework, he's manipulated by the people who actually understand how things work.

[Colorado Progressive]

30. I completely agree with you. That's why he is so scary!

[Deep13]

31. Brilliant politician and completely in charge.

The dumb guy thing is just an act.

[Orsino]

32. Neither.

Just profoundly incurious and too damned lazy to connive. Luckily, he has people to do this for him.