Which is worse? Crab grass or Bermuda grass?

[XemaSab]

:shrug:

[triguy46]

1. Here in OK, bermuda is the grass of choice. But it cannot be stopped...

from creeping everywhere. It will invade any tilled ground, any weeded bed. Much more evilly insidious than the stupid crabgrass.

[XemaSab]

2. That's my argument

Crabgrass is like Mitt Romney: too neutered to do any real damage.

Bermuda grass is like Karl Rove: a finger in every pie. :scared:

[triguy46]

6. Here's our solution:

For any bed that you want free from bermuda, you must swallow hard and use strong chemicals such as RoundUp to create a dead zone. You then need to dig out your borders to 12 inches deep. Then place your edging in such as a railroad tie or landscape timber, BUT, most importantly, tack or attach roof sheathing down into the trench, at least 10 inches deep. Bermuda will not bury its roots more than about 8" to get under things.

[Oeditpus Rex]

3. Getting rid of crab grass is like imploding buildings

Getting rid of Bermuda grass is like trying to destroy the Los Angeles freeway system without affecting the buildings near it.

[Kali]

4. the grass I HATE the most is an annual.

Effing sand burrs. THE most evil plant that exists. I will GLADLY take goatheads over sand burrs.

[XemaSab]

5. What about ripgut?

Or foxtail barley? Or effing erodium? :shrug:

[Kali]

9. I didn't know what ripgut was - seems to be California only?

Yeah another annual brome. Fortunatly we are high enough we don't get much of those. I get a little foxtail in the yard and yes I hate it (although it is green - and early, and that can be a real thrill some years!)

If you hit it early with hungry livestock you can knock it back a little and it makes ok winter feed for them, but it also tends to start hugging the ground and seeding anyway. Also being an annual it pulls up easy and cattle tend to not touch it if the ground is moist and loose at all.

Now the oldtimers and desert ranchers LOVE fillaree. I heard you have to watch it if you are doing pastured beef as it gives the meat a strange flavor. Don't know personally, never tasted it nor do we get much of it either - again a few plants here and there and in the yard a bit. I kind of like it - pretty little purple flowers, lacy foliage and cool seed pods. If some starts in a flower pot I tend to start treating it like a pet.

Our range is in pretty good shape considering all the right-of-ways and subsequent seedings of Lehmans. We have a LOT of Lehmans, but I'd rather have it than nothing or all annuals. We are still in very good shape with natives on the hills.

My all-time favorite:

Blue Grama



also

Sideoats Grama




If I were into tattoos these would be a couple of my top choices.:rofl:

[XemaSab]

10. The gramas are really cool

Filaree, well, I dunno about range animals but the seeds screw into your socks. x(

[mikeytherat]

7. "People hate crabgrass just because it has a bad name!

Everyone would love it if it had a nice name, like Elf Grass!" - Homer Simpson

mikey_the_rat

[mikeytherat]

8. "This is a hybrid I came up with myself. You see, it's Kentucky Bluegrass

and Northern California sinsimilla. The great thing is, you can play 18 holes and then take some home and just get stoned to the Bejezzus Belt." - Carl Spackler

mikey_the_rat

[unpossibles]

11. I've honestly not smoked either of them

anyone have any reviews?

[XemaSab]

12. try erowid.

:P