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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:20 PM
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My fellow cannabist, please explain this small point
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 02:24 PM by Virgil
We all know that 4:20 is a magic number of sorts in the cannabis world. I wish you would take the time to express an opinion on this one issue in regards to the Dennis Kucinich campaign. Here is the DK website for donations- http://tinyurl.com/2ep8j What if Dennis Kucinich would place these words "Minimum donation is $4.20" under the words "Enter Donation Amount Here"? The minimum donation is $5.00 unless they have changed it.

The idea was presented at cannabisnews.com which would be a website that would have followers that would donate to DK because of his sensible policy on cannabis. The idea died because people could not donate $4.20. Considering matching funds, I believe the difference between placing that words "Minimum donation is %4.20 several million dollars because 2 months of word of mouth is gone. It also hurt people that could carry the Kucinich messages because we follow him where many people put him in the Sharpton category.

Please comment on that. Also what if just one time after such a hypothetical minimum donation went up, DK would start out an interview with "$4.20 everybody", what would that mean? I say it would generate several hundreds of thousands of dollars in a week counting matching funds. If an interviewer said anything all he would have to say is, "That is my minimum donation at Kucinich.us"

It is an uphill battle for DK, but the one community that embrasses him strongest is the cannabis community. People that might support another candidate would still donate $4.20 to Dennis, and maybe multiple times, because he is the person with the best cannabis policy.

Please respond to this, so that others might understand how big an opportunity was lost and will continue to be lost because of 4 words- "Minimum donation is $4.20"
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:41 PM
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1. as a long-time cannabis user I have never heard of 4:20
what is it?
are you saying that "minimum donation $4.20" would be a coded message to cannabis users? and that they would donate this amount but not $5.00?

:shrug:
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:52 PM
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3. the origin of 420..
According to Steven Hager, editor of High Times, the term 420 originated at San Rafael High School, in 1971, among a group of about a dozen pot-smoking wiseacres who called themselves the Waldos, who are now pushing 50. The term was shorthand for the time of day the group would meet, at the campus statue of Louis Pasteur, to smoke pot. Intent on developing their own discreet language, they made 420 code for a time to get high, and its use spread among members of an entire generation. While our teens feel that they know something we don't, you can let them in on the fact that it was your generation that came up with the numbers.

A quote from one of the Waldos in the High Times article states, "We did discover we could talk about getting high in front of our parents without them knowing by using the phrase 420." Fortunately, your teenagers will not have that same option.

http://parentingteens.about.com/cs/marijuana/a/420meaning.htm
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bubblesby2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:54 PM
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4. 4:20
refers to the time to meet after school to indulge in a little cannabis smoking. It now refers to anyone who wants to have a toke. "Are you ready for 4:20?"
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:51 PM
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6. Pretty much
It would give them an avenue of expression. It would spread to people like you that do not know of Kucinich's position and break the silence that has prolonged cannabis prohibition.

People would sit around passing a joint and say "Did you $4.20 for Kucinich." People would keep track of how many donations they made.

I cannot really express how big an idea this is. But it got you talking. You have to understand that this applies only to Kucinich because he has the most sensible cannabis policy of any predidential candidate ever.

People that would not vote for him would donate. He has to make all the right moves. People oppressed by onerous cannabis laws and black market prices and demonization into a sub-human context to war on want to have expression and support someone with sense. For it to really be accepted he should put up the four words I mentioned- "Minimum donation is $4.20." If he had done that 2 months ago, he would have two more million in his bank account and a lot more supporters.

I am telling you. Ask a friend what it would mean. Kucinich would probably end cannabis prohibition as the laws inflict more harm than the substance, if the substance would inflict harm. If the object were to reduce the harm of substance abuse, there is one best thing to have immediate impact. That would be to legalize cannabis. It would keep people from coming in contact with people that can hook them on some really addictive and expensive stuff and it would help with the evils of alcohol. If they really cared about substance abuse in terms of reducing harm, intellect says cannabis should be legal tomorrow.

The idea needed time to gain steam. It is only 4 words. People would go nuts. I would donate $4.20 right now, but not $5.00. Dk has not extended his hand. He should do so. It is only 4 words. It is his loss and his mistake. And matching funds too.
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:50 PM
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2. Why not 42.00 instead
if you want to support the candidate and can't give em 4.20 then add a zero.
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:08 PM
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5. Sorry. I thought you said canabalist!
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