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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:45 PM
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Poll question: Which Star Trek movie was the best?
I debate this every now and then with my dork friends, and we usually come up with the same two answers.

So, I have to ask: Which Star Trek movie is the best?
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:47 PM
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1. My personal vote is for First Contact.
Let the flamewar begin!!!
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:50 PM
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2. I voted Insurrection. It reminded me of what was best in TNG.
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 10:50 PM by Robeson
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:53 PM
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3. Undiscovered Country...
Will always be my fave. Just love Kirk and Spock in it. Nice battle at the end, too. Wrath of Khan comes in second only because Spock died in that one. Knew he'd be brought back, but it still depressed me.

For Next Generation...First Contact...the Borg rock.
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:55 PM
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4. Undiscovered Country was always the dark horse in our nerdy conversations.
The top two are always Wrath of Khan and First Contact, followed usually by The Voyage Home and Undiscovered Country.

I love Undiscovered Country too. Just a classically good science fiction movie, IMHO.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:24 AM
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5. KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!




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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:25 AM
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6. Well, this was inevitable...
I do like the pic where Khan leans his head back, closes his eyes and looks like he's having an orgasm while Kirk is screaming his name. :blush:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:34 AM
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7. I loved IV
It was just so fun!
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:46 AM
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8. Oh, him? He's harmless.
Part of the free speech movement at Berkeley in the sixties. I think he did a little too much LDS.



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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:48 AM
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9. Damn, I'm seeing Romney now...
:banghead: Out damn image! Out!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:51 AM
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10. "Excuse me I'm looking for the nuclear wessels "


Of course, the humor is mostly lost on folks that never knew the Cold War...
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 08:32 AM
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17. Trivia on that scene:
The scene with Chekov and Uhura asking passerby where Alameda and the U.S. Enterprise were was completely unscripted, as was the young lady's clueless response, "Ooh, I don't think I know the answer to that one - I think it's in the bay, in Alameda." Crew had to chase her down after the shot was taken to get her to sign a SAG waiver and permission to use her in the film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092007/trivia
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:03 PM
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20. That's cool.
I'd never heard that until just now.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:51 PM
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22. I didn't know that...
At first I thought her response was clueless. Then I thought perhaps it was more of a sarcastic answer. After all, what good Ray-gun era American would have told a guy with a thick Russian accent where nuclear vessels were?
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 06:28 PM
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31. Another piece of trivia about IV. The word for Humpback in Russian is
Gorbachov. When the producers of STAR TREK IV THE JOURNEY HOME took the movie to the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachov was at the head of the Soviet government, so they did some fancy dancing around the Humpback Whale translation in order not to hold Gorbachov up for ridicule.

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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:28 AM
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11. IV is by far the best of those I have seen,
because, unlike the earlier ones, it didn't take itself too seriously.

I didn't see V, VI, etc. Did I miss anything?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:39 AM
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12. I'll admit to liking V...
It's probably the worst of them all, but I still like it. I know a lot of trekkers who hate it. It gets pretty damn stupid. VI is more dramatic and it's my personal favorite.

Best line of the movie: taH pagh taHbe'
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:21 AM
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14. I like it too because, at times, it's just so hilariously BAD.
Just for a laugh, a few months ago we rented the DVD of the Final Frontier to watch the movie with William Shatner's director's commentary and... Well, he doesn't exactly make excuses for his bad film.

Still a fun movie, but by far the worst of them so far.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 08:29 AM
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16. The guy who invented Klingon had a hard time with that one
Because he deliberately designed Klingon to have no verb "to be". So when Nicholas Meyer (the director) asked him "How do you say 'To be or not to be'", his first response was, "You can't".

Glare from Nick Meyer.

Him: "I'll figure it out".

(I was at lunch with several friends, and he was there)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 04:54 PM
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26. V had some good lines, too...
Well worth seeing!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 09:45 AM
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18. Ditto
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:09 AM
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13. Wrath...
If for only this: http://www.khaaan.com/
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 08:17 AM
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15. Difficult to choose just one
Wrath: Near perfect classic Trek and I always tear up when Scotty plays "Amazing Grace".

Voyage: Great humor and a light touch, "I'm from Iowa. I only work in outer space." And the 'Aw' moment: "Do you have a message for your mother?" "Tell her I feel fine."

First Contact: Watching Stewart and Spiner work together; those two were a fine acting team. The Borg Queen was the best Trek villain, would have had Khan for breakfast.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:01 PM
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19. Leonard Maltin's 2007 Movie Guide says ..
.. most of the Star Trek movies get three stars. Exceptions are as follows:

The Voyage Home, with three and a half, is the best of the lot (just as I said in my earlier post).

The Motion Picture, with two and a half stars, is second to last.

The Final Frontier, with only two stars, is dead last.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:11 PM
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21. Undiscovered Country
The best sci-fi whodunit ever.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 03:32 PM
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23. I voted "Wrath of Khan", but I like 4 and 8 a lot as well
I think 'Wrath of Khan' was the truest to the original series - almost like a really good 2 part episode.

4 was good because of the humor. Driver: "Outta the way ya dumb ass" Kirk, "and a double dumb ass on you!" Then, Spock asking Kirk about it later and Kirk responding how it was in the culture at the time.

First Contact was also really good - a good idea that was well executed.





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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 04:06 PM
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24. The most exciting/fun one was First Contact.
Wrath of Khan was great to see the clash of the Hams.
Undiscovered Country and Generations are tied for my second favorites.
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:47 PM
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28. That's my personal favorite as well.
Honestly, it has everything - an epic space battle, the Borg, time travel, and James Cromwell was a perfect Zefram Chochrane! Who knew that an astronaut could also be a drunk!

Hmm... That sounds familiar somehow...
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:54 PM
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29. Yeah, the Borg rock, they definitely were entitled to a moviie.
:hi:
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 06:14 PM
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30. Not to mention such a good movie!
After FC though the Borg kind of went downhill... They were still cool in Voyager, but they weren't "Best of Both Worlds" awesomely terrifying anymore.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 06:43 PM
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32. The first episode featuring the Borg 'Q Who'
is one of the greatest episodes of Next Generation, bar none. The Borg are at their creepiest, and it has Q as well. :D
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:00 PM
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33. Absolutely! One of my favorites!
It had the omnipotent all=seeing, all-knowing power of Q, a desperate situation, and the mother of all mysteries. I remember seeing the Borg for the first time - how weird and scary they were, and how brutal they were, carving away at the Enterprise... and no matter what they tried, the crew couldn't stop them or even slow them down.

Picard was enough of a man to admit when he was beaten, and that plea to Q... "You tell us that we need you? I NEED you!" - just classic.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:01 PM
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34. Ah, yes, and Q was at his best as well.
That episode is definitely in my top 5 :D
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 04:13 PM
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25. As much as I love the "nuclear wessels", it's obviously Khan.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:06 PM
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27. No votes for Nemesis? Well I'll be damned!
:spray:

(II, by far, is the best.)
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:06 PM
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35. The undiscovered country ..hands down
"Only nixon could go to china"..Spock
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