The coolest thing about Star trek III - The Search for Spock:

[Deja Q]

After Enterprise docks, the Admiral tells Scotty he will be transferred to the new USS Excelsior; his wisdom will be put to great use. (a compliment, given Scotty was trashing the thing just a few minutes earlier... and later in this movie figured out some of the new ship's modifications and disables it, allowing Kirk to break orders, escape, and retrieve Spock's body.)

Scotty looks about 55 in this movie.

In the 21st century, he wouldn't get a job anywhere.

Also, in the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Relics" that Scotty appears in, he is treated as an out-of-touch drunk loser until the end, where his knowledge of 23rd century design saves everybody. Which is strange, LaForge states earlier in the story that most of (24th century designs) were by and large adaptations of 23rd century designs - Scotty could easily have seen what would have been moved or added and adapt. Assuming the script would want to pursue that, but it preferred to treat Scotty as an invalid out of time; to be berated by every 20-something ensign on board. Great dramatic acting, and the story features some terrific sci-fi concepts (rather than the usual technobabble) but Scotty deserved better...

[Book Lover]

1. I understand that they shot but cut a scene for "Relics"

where he talks with Troi; I would like to have seen that. And I completely agree - I don't for a sec believe that the crew of the E-E would have treated a member of the original Enterprise as rudely as they did. Silly discontinuity.

[Deja Q]

2. I'm compelled to agree:

Troi is usually a paperweight with nice honkers, but she was robbed.

Pity it didn't make it as an extra for the TNG season 6 set...

I did hear once Rick Berman was never a fan of the original series; and indeed used his clout to nix the Sulu show in favor of Voyager (the show itself was claimed to have been talked about in an online forum, Berman saw it and 'borrowed' it, but that's merely an old rumor)... (in 1995, a Sulu series would have worked; as Trek VI also felt like a pilot for such a series and the Excelsior survived Chang's attack without even a scratch on the hull, proving they wanted to keep the model for later use...)


BTW: Did you know Marina Sirtis was a contender for the role of Dayna in "Blake's 7" (1980)?

[Book Lover]

3. I happily bow to your superior geekhood,

as I did not know that about Ms Sirtis.

Yeah, Berman killed the Captain Sulu/Excelsior series, which is a(nother) real shame. Then again, you are not talking to a Voyager fan here.

By the way, do you know of this website? It's pretty darn complete...

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Main_Page

[Deja Q]

5. .

:D

'Voyager' did have its moments; but it took 4 years plus nixing the most obvious retread of the Klingons, named 'Kazons' no less... :puke: Never mind the '25th anniversary' special where Tuvok is retconned into Trek VI comes close to ruining trek VI while coming across incredibly bad...

I've visited Memory Alpha before too... :D Never the main page, which I should look up more often. Roy Jensen (Cloud William in 'The Omega Glory' died on April 24; aged 80... :( ) As for Trek XI, I don't know why they're bothering. The prequel disaster series "Enterprise" was a misnomer to start with; and yet another prequel to go between the first prequel and Kirk's tenure... pompous.

Another fun tidbit; in "The Neutral Zone" (TNG season 1, 1988), Troi looks a computer screen. What she is reading is a list of the first 6 actors who played "Doctor Who" (another BBC series, just as "Blake's 7" was. :D it's been suggested the Borg were a homage to the Cybermen...)

[Pierre.Suave]

4. Those of us in the know call them...

HOOTERS...

Her eyes are nice too.

[Deja Q]

6. According to Al Calavicci, they've got oodles of names. And agreed on the eyes...

(Al Calavicci was Sam Beckett's sidekick in the NBC TV series "Quantum Leap"...)




:D

[Pierre.Suave]

7. I guess

it doesnt really matter what you call them. Almost anything will do.

thats a nice picture of her.

[Deja Q]

9. Quite.

Found the picture on wikipedia; I didn't know she was Greek. (Okay, her name suggests her ancestral lineage is Greek, but still...)

[hfojvt]

8. disagree about the 21st century

Old people are always getting good jobs, imo, as long as they have a track record of good jobs. I know of a couple examples, both women (hmmm). One retired from the Sherrif's department. Later I see that she is now Director of an Arts Center. Not sure how she qualified for that, other than by the connections she made working for the Sherrif's department. Another retired as a teacher and then got a good-paying government job on the base. So here are these people, with retirement income greater than my working income and then they get good-paying jobs on the side. :banghead: Meanwhile I resigned my master's degreed self to a career as a janitor, because this :banghead: was adversely impacting my quality of life. "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change."
Also, I swear this town, where I bought a house, must be the worst place to look for employment. Because of the base, it is crawling with retired officers. So there they are, in their forties, just like me, and many are looking for jobs. Only instead of just degrees, they have degrees and connections, military and veterans preference, twenty years of experience and training, security clearances, and so on. All that, plus decent retirement income and benefits. Is it any wonder that I cannot even get interviews, much less jobs?

[hfojvt]

10. all that, and I forgot

I read in Nimoy's book that somebody wanted to make the crew of the Enterprise a bunch of wash-up alcoholics unable to forget the glory of their original mission or to find that excitement anywhere else and they would be called up to face the new threat of V-ger which was their expertise and nobody else knew how to deal with. But as the actors read that script they said 'screw that, the crew should be Admirals and Captains at the top of their Starfleet careers!'