DU "Lost" Fans

[SoxFan]

Jack Shepard: Noble doctor, or overbearing prick?

Discuss amongst yourselves...:evilgrin:

[GenDem]

1. He can be self-righteous

...and bossy, and acts like Dr know-it-all -- but he's really passionate and sexy, too. I think he's my favorite d00d on the show.

I'm so happy that it's "Lost" night. :bounce:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

16. The thing is, he's expected to lead, but he doesn't want to.

He gets forced into the leadership role, and then he gets undermined at every turn by the people who want him to lead. I think we'd all act like Jack if we were in his shoes.

[Downtown Hound]

2. A noble doctor

who at times can be an overbearing prick. But he means well, and overall he has done a lot of good in the situation that he finds himself in. I think the Losties are lucky to have him.

[ghostsofgiants]

3. A little from column A, a little from column B.

[darkstar]

4. Or simply a guy who uses

a boyish "laugh of disbelief" to hide the severely thwarted emotional capacity his father issues have left him with???

[graywarrior]

5. Abused & Confused

[LostinVA]

6. Overbearing, SELF-RIGHTEOUS prick

[lost-in-nj]

7. I would do him....

if Sawyer and Sayide weren't available!!!


:toast: :bounce:

lost

[earthboundmisfit]

10. Sawyer, Sayid and Desmond

all WAY ahead of Jack in every way

[merh]

12. I agree with you

Jack is annoying, he is too condscending and yes, prick is the best description for him.

[Jade Fox]

24. Great minds think alike!

Sayid, Desmond, Sawyer. Take a number guys!

[graywarrior]

25. And Josh Holloway's acting was top notch last night!

[Pacifist Patriot]

44. Indeed.

[NewWaveChick1981]

41. Yes indeed.

:evilgrin: Jack would have to be the next-to-last man on the island for me to even consider him. (Ben would have to be the last one. And even then, I'd have to think a long, long time about it. :puke:)

Desmond, Sawyer, and Sayid are definitely very do-able... :D

[Pacifist Patriot]

43. Okay, add me to the list. My order...

Sayid

Desmond

Sawyer

Jack

[graywarrior]

53. My "do" list

Sawyer

Desmond

Sayid

Kate

Jin

Locke

Hurley

The French Lady

The Dog

[LynneSin]

11. Hell I think I'd do Hurley before Jack

Seriously!

[NewWaveChick1981]

40. Hurley's so sweet and funny and way more fun than Jack anyway.

:hi: :D

[SoxFan]

57. Let me tell ya

Speaking as the chubby guy with the great personality, I can assure you that Jack gets the better end of the deal than our friend Hugo Reyes!

[Matsubara]

8. Basically a decent guy...

...but his self-righteousness is the product of privilege from an early age...

[SoxFan]

14. I think you're on to it

I think this is it. I don't think he is a fundamentally bad person, but his sense of self-importance and his lack of true introspection limits his capacity to lead.

There's an interesting essay in a book edited by Orson Scott Card, of all people, that makes a surprisingly good argument for Hurley being the real leadership genius on Craphole Island. He listens, weighs alternatives, is cognizant of the importance of morale, and has as least as much guts as the more traditionally heroic guys.

[Connonym]

18. what's the name of the book please?

huge fan of Ender's Game

[SoxFan]

19. "Getting Lost"

"Getting Lost: Survival, Baggage, and Starting Over in J. J. Abrams' Lost"
It's part of the SmartPop series

[merh]

9. self righteous overbearing prick that happens to be a doctor

x(

[Shell Beau]

13. I think he is both.

He is a good doctor but he also thinks he is in charge of everyone on the island. And he is being a prick to Kate. I can't wait for him to feel very very stupid.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

15. Noble doctor.

I really don't think he's been turned. After being held hostage for a week, seeing the girl you were falling for do the nasty with Sawyer, and then see your ticket off the island explode right in front of you, I can't really blame him for being a little distant or bitter.

[philosophie_en_rose]

17. Overbearing jackass

And not half as hot as Desmond. :)

The scene where he insisted Juliet be included in Kate's discussion was pretty vile. Kate could have been saying anything.

[Shell Beau]

20. Have to disagree about Desmond though! Not nearly as cute!

;)

[philosophie_en_rose]

22. Fine.

You get Jack. I get Desmond.

:P

[Taverner]

21. DHARMA all the way

;)

[Withywindle]

23. I'll take "overbearing prick" for 2,000, Alex.

And I want to know just where he stands on "the Others". And I want Sayid to be the one to ask him.

[grace0418]

26. If Sayid asked me anything, I would just respond with incoherent blather and then

melt into a puddle on the floor. But I guess Jack wouldn't have that same difficulty. :)

[Withywindle]

27. Yeah, torture wouldn't be necessary in my case either.

"I'll tell you anything you want to know if you just take your shirt off and say something dirty in Arabic."

[grace0418]

28. I'd actually love to hear him say something dirty with that fabulous real-life British

accent. YUM!

[Withywindle]

29. Ooooh yeah.

I have no idea why so many people fixate on Jack and Sawyer. Naveen Andrews is sex on legs.

[GenDem]

30. Ya know why?

They haven't written enough Sayid centered shows. When he had his show this season, I was drooling. I would like to see more of him.

He is very sexy.

[grace0418]

33. Yeah, that one was great. I loved him in chef's whites with his hair tied back.

I think that's where I got the idea of dipping him in caramel sauce. ;)

[GenDem]

35. Oh, you are naughty Grace

Yes, he would be delicious.:evilgrin:

[Jade Fox]

38. Definitely NOT enough Sayid.....

Here's an interesting point made about Sayid based on the last episode.

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/

"You gotta love Sayid. Everything out of his mouth is important, and he asks the best questions. "Did any of you actually see this helicopter?" The first week on the island this might've seemed an unusual question, but three months later it's totally logical. The others in Naomi's tent are too caught up in possible rescue to remember that nothing on the island turns out to be what it seems. Almost everything comes with a catch - and Sayid's vision is still clear enough to know this."

And he looks soooo good in a white T-shirt!

[Kajsa]

42. Notice how EVERY hunch Sayid has

ends up being right?

He can smell an " Other" a mile away.
And he knows when they are BSing ( Juliet).

Sayid Rocks!

[Jade Fox]

49. Yes, he really should be the "leader"....

time for a pic:

[Kajsa]

51. Oh, yeah!

;-) " what a man, what a man, what a very fine man."---

[SoxFan]

54. Well then, I call dibs on Claire!

:loveya:

[grace0418]

31. You said it! Barbara Hershey is so lucky.

I just want to dip him in caramel sauce and lick it all off. :blush: :9

[graywarrior]

32. I love Sayid's "techniques." I know a certain free world leader who would benefit from them

[grace0418]

34. I do too!

Although I think we're talking about different techniques.

[graywarrior]

37. Well, those techniques also.

But instead of on world leaders....

[undeterred]

36. His brains go out the window when he is attracted to someone.

[NewWaveChick1981]

39. Yeah, he always lets the little head think for the big head.

:P :hi:

[Pacifist Patriot]

45. Is this supposed to differentiate him from the other males on the island?

:evilgrin:

[NewWaveChick1981]

47. ...

:rofl: Actually, I think it relates him to all the other males. :P

[Worst Username Ever]

46. I have only watched the first 2 seasons from netflix

At first, he was an admirable, courageous, selfless leader. A "hero." Remember when he dove into the ocean and saved that girl during season one? Then he sort of changed into a prick. As of the close of season 2, I can't stand him. I also can't stand Michael at this point, but don't tell me what happens since i haven's seen the other episodes.

[SoxFan]

52. Michael?

Uh-oh!

:wow:

[Worst Username Ever]

56. Shhhh!

:o

[dropkickpa]

48. Prick

He's overbearing, dismissive, and his little boy hurt "I doan wanna be a leadah!" whining makes me want to slam my head into the TV.

Sayid, Sawyer, Jin, and Hurley are much higher on my crush list.

[nuxvomica]

50. Self-involved, emotionally unstable, overaged adolescent

His practice of medicine is partially an attempt to convince himself that he doesn't think it's all about him. That said, he's one of the finest people on the island. :D

[SoxFan]

55. Oh, well yeah.

I mean, compared to the bug-eyed freak and the homicidal cloud of smoke, he's a great guy!