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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:44 PM
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Threesomes Within a Christian Marriage
Playing by God’s Rules

If, on the other hand, a married couple feels their relationship would benefit from them establishing a loving involvement another woman, out of respect for the couple’s marriage, and out of respect for any marital attachments of the other woman, they must abide by certain limits and conditions:

(1) To avoid the impropriety of male homosexuality, a heterosexual couple should not under any circumstances form a threesome with another man.
(2) Both women involved in the threesome must be willing to keep within traditional female roles (i.e., not taking on masculine appearance or behavior in or out of the bedroom) and recognize the male as the leader in the relationship.
(3) If the wife’s lesbian sex partner is unmarried, it may be permissible for the husband to have relations with her only with his wife’s consent.
(4) If the wife’s lesbian sex partner is unmarried, but the wife does not wish her to have relations with the other woman, the husband should respect this.
(5) If the wife’s lesbian sex partner is married, her husband must not have objections to the relationship.
(6) If the wife’s lesbian sex partner is married, the husband should refrain from having any sexual relations with her, and should make every effort to control his fantasies about her. He should concentrate his attention on his own wife.


:crazy:

Much more here: Sex In Christ.

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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:46 PM
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1. Okay, now my brain hurts
Sex with a married lesbian is okay for both parties in a christian marriage but male homosexual sex is never okay under any circumstances.

Have I got that right? :wtf:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:52 PM
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3. Looks that way, dunnit?
Kinda makes ya wonder just who their god is. :shrug:

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:51 PM
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2. "Playing by God's Rules"
Heh-heh. "And God said unto Moses, 'Two dudes? Gross, man!' Two chicks, though, that's hot. I'd go for it."
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:02 PM
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4. That's a satire, yes?
:wow:

:rofl:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:08 PM
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6. Dunno
Haven't figured that out yet.



Not sure I want to, either.

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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:29 PM
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19. I really don't think it is. The passages are all from the Bible. They write whole books
about how not to be gay, (unless of course you are a woman according to this site). I think a lot of these people are just so horny trying to be "good" that they lose their figgin minds.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:49 AM
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41. You don't think "Fisting and God's Will" is a dead give-away?
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 03:23 AM
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42. Remember that group that used "flirty fishing" (sex) to help people come to Christ?
These people can be really nuts
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:16 AM
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37. no, that is for real. no link, sorry, but I've seen that online before..
....
it is some buy who wants his ideas to be taken seriously....of course, mainstream Christian clergy who have responded have a big problem with this stuff.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:06 PM
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5. OMFG
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The Necessity of Swallowing - The Sin of Spilling Seed

http://www.sexinchrist.com/oralsex.html
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:09 PM
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7. So, uh...
Does a threesome in a Christian marriage lead to the "second coming?"

:rofl:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:10 PM
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8. OMFG-- you can't make this stuff up, folks....
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 02:11 PM by mike_c
Most people assume the Biblical prohibition against male homosexuality also includes sex between women – lesbianism or female bisexuality. However, this is a questionable conclusion, since the Bible makes little or no mention of women with regard to this subject, and because the Bible, for better or worse, often holds men and women to different standards regarding sex and sexual roles. Therefore, we believe that lesbianism cannot be seen in the same light as male homosexuality through the Scriptures.

The one passage that is frequently cited as condemning female homosexuality is found in Romans 1:26-27: "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions: for their women exchanged the natural use for that which is against nature. And in the same way also the men abandoned the natural use of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts…” The idea of women going “against nature” is typically interpreted to mean women lusting after women. However, we believe that what Paul is referring to when he speaks of women “going against nature” is not female homosexuality per se, but rather the reversal of sexual roles that goes against the natural order established by God.

Of course, this does have relevance to the issue of female homosexuality, as many lesbians do assume masculine roles and attitudes, adopt male clothing and mannerisms, and play the part of a male in their relationships with women. Women who fall into this category (“butch” lesbians, or “bulldykes”) are indeed going against nature with regards to their sexuality. At the same time, however, there are many women who engage in lesbian or bisexual activity who nevertheless maintain a traditional feminine role and demeanor (i.e., “lipstick” lesbians). Since there is no specific prohibition against lesbian sex, as long as these women remain within the boundaries of the female role prescribed by Scripture, and submit to the authority of the men in their lives, we assume it is permissible. Of course, if their husband or father objected, that would be another story.

more@OP_link
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 09:21 AM
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46. WTF???
Gay women are okay, but gay men are not? Holy crap.
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:13 PM
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9. Sounds like they conveniently bent the "rules" to suit themselves.
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 02:14 PM by NewWaveChick1981
:rofl: :yoiks: I think the author just has threesome fantasies about two women and a guy, and they were able to justify it this way with some creative interpretations of the bible. Apparently male homosexuality is different than female homosexuality. :shrug: I guess it's a good thing the bible SAYS it's OK for me to be a bi female. :P

I think if I were ever approached about being in such a "Christian relationship", I'd laugh my ass off. :rofl:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 12:49 AM
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34. Come, let us pray















(or, perhaps, the other way around....)



:o


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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 08:58 AM
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45. They not only bent the rules, but conveniently "lifted" words...
For example, in the link about Viagra, they quote several passages, where any use of the words "hard," "firm," "rock," or even "diamond" refer to an erection.

Perhaps Fox News is their day job!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:20 PM
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10. OK-- this MUST be satire-- at the risk of getting this thread locked....
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 02:22 PM by mike_c
From the same site:

:rofl:

Fisting as an Act of Faith

Before attempting fisting, a Christian husband and wife should pray together and ask for divine guidance. The husband should ask that God guide his hand and work through him, and for the skill and patience to fist his wife correctly and maximize her pleasure. The wife should pray for openness and readiness to receive God’s love and grace in the form of her husband’s hand.

Both should treat the act of fisting as a divine spiritual mystery to be entered into with reverence and awe, especially the husband. In another spiritual interpretation of fisting, as he inserts his hand into his wife’s vagina, a man is symbolically re-enacting the moment of truth following Christ’s resurrection from the tomb, when Doubting Thomas touches the wounds in the Savior’s flesh: Then He said to Thomas, "Put your finger here and observe My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Don't be an unbeliever, but a believer.” (John 20:27) Thomas’ doubt would not be satisfied until he physically felt the wounds in Christ’s body and penetrated His flesh with his hand. Likewise, the spiritual and sexual power of fisting cannot be known unless experienced physically.

Role Reversal

So far we have only discussed a husband fisting his wife, but some couples may wonder if it is appropriate for a wife to fist her husband if he enjoys anal stimulation. In most cases, a wife indulging her husband’s desire to receive light anal play is not problematic in the context of a healthy sexual relationship. A wife may even anally penetrate her partner with a strap-on dildo if he enjoys this, and if their respective roles as husband and wife are secure outside of the bedroom.

However, because of the intense nature of the act of fisting and the degree of surrender and submission involved in being fisted, a couple should first look deeply into their own hearts and pray for guidance as to whether it is wise for the wife to fist the husband. They should undertake this only if their relationship is such that the husband can assume a submissive and passive role during a sexual act, while afterward still maintaining his role as the spiritual head of the household and leader in the marriage. Our article on Christian BDSM also addresses this issue.
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:14 AM
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36. Those are some pretty adventurous Christians fer sure! n/t
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:36 AM
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40. Lol....
"Our article on Christian BDSM also addresses this issue."

:rofl:
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:22 PM
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11. Oh dear
:silly:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:31 PM
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12. But God forbid a woman should be on top.
That would be against the traditional role, and it would ruin everything. :banghead:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:54 PM
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14. now just hold on a minute
a man can order a woman to do that and it would be perfectly fine. :)
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:25 PM
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16. I order you to order me.
:evilgrin:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:30 PM
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17. !!!!!!!
Is there a "stutter" smiley? :)
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:41 PM
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22. I don't imagine the fundie men like taking orders.
:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:44 PM
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30. that's most of the fun
:)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 12:47 AM
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33. But remember...Laura's always on top...
Because George can only fuck up.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:32 PM
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13. I wish to be
on the opposite side of the planet from this guy!

:P

And frankly, if I can't have two men within the context of a "loving christian relationship," well then, I don't wanna play!


:P

:silly:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:16 PM
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15. NO! not allowed!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:19 PM
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18. Twenty bucks donation to DU says it's a satire
My favorite is the section on Christian p*rn.

This is NOT real.

Julie

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:15 PM
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28. the fact that there is no link to any kind of minister or church also makes it sketchy
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:29 PM
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20. Masturbation: God's Gift to Us
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 04:30 PM by ComerPerro
and Masturbating for the Glory of God.


LMAO.


Praise Him!!!!
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:41 PM
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21. "sex in christ"? Nice site title. Begs the question: is Christ big enough to fit three?
:7
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:49 PM
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23. okay
i thought the whole premise of christian marriage was in threes

they are united in christ and christ is the head of the household

1=christ
2=husband
3=wive

yep...that makes 3 in the marriage
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:29 PM
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24. kinky.
:bounce:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:47 PM
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25. ain't it though
:crazy:

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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:20 AM
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38. But that's 2 men! n/t
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:45 PM
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26. Just what God made up these rules?
It certainly wasn't the one I know.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:12 PM
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27. Anal Sex in Accordance with God's Will
"Second, for a young woman who has never engaged in sexual intercourse, having anal sex allows her to preserve her virginity (i.e., maintain an intact hymen) until marriage. There is no greater gift that a bride can give than to offer her pure, unsullied maidenhead to her husband on their wedding night."

http://www.sexinchrist.com/index.html



:rofl:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 12:49 AM
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35. Will who?
Is he kind of like Mary?
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:23 AM
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39. HAHAHAHA Pure and Unsullied Hymen
And a totally ripped up pooper. Those guys think of every angle, eh?:rofl:
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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:30 PM
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29. Wow... i guess i gave up Christianity a little too soon, huh?!
This sounds like fun!
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:53 PM
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31. This has to be satire.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:13 PM
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32. Ah, Sex in Christ - that's a hilarious site.
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 11:14 PM by kath
Someone on DU linked to it a month or two back.
Of course it's satire/parody - *good* parody, like Objective: Christian Ministries, which many thought was real, especially with its article that Apple Corp (computers) was pro-evolution and Satanic: http://objectiveministries.org/creation/propaganda.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBJECTIVE:_Ministries
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slj0101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 08:21 AM
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44. "Hey, Habu, how many gods do you have?"
:rofl:


This is genius.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 05:58 AM
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43. dude -- that site is my sig line -- here --
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