Name a true American villain:

[ohiosmith]

Joseph McCarthy

[Lil Missy]

1. darth cheney

[Mad_Dem_X]

2. KKKarl Rove.

[YankeyMCC]

3. Aaron Burr

[azmouse]

4. John Wilkes Booth

[MonkeyFunk]

5. Ed Gein

[Taverner]

50. Ed Gein may have only killed one person

Mainly he was a gravedigger and a necrophiliac.

But he was one weird dude...

[Left Is Write]

105. He was convicted of two murders.

Bernice Worden and Mary Hogan.

[pdx_prog]

99. He smoked a LOT....

they found numerous butts under his couch...

:silly:

[Kerrytravelers]

6. Ann Coulter

Anyone who tells widows that they're enjoying their husbands' deaths is a villian in my book.

[ohiosmith]

98. Good choice.

[hfojvt]

7. Jesse James

and of course he was made famous and his name is a household word and he has museums in both his hometown and St. Joseph, Mo et. al.

[HEyHEY]

8. Walt Disney

[GoneOffShore]

24. I'll second that one.

I hate the mouse.

[HEyHEY]

51. No, seriously, Walt was an anti-semetic prick

Ratted people out to McArthy too.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

60. He was involved in blacklisting, and union busting.

But I think the anti-semitism is mostly innuendo. He made a number of enemies in Hollywood, and the I've read the anti-semitism allegation is mostly slanderous.

And while I'm pro-labor and I don't want to sound like I'm not, from what I understand most of his anti-labor sentiment was based on his running into some particularly unsavory union bosses. The real corrupt kind.

I'm not trying to apologize for him, I just think "villain" is a bit over the top.

[Seabiscuit]

95. I'm going to Disneyland today with my wife and son.

DU posters can put up all their petty snarky remarks they want about Disney's politics, but I still admire Walt for what he created.

[HEyHEY]

117. Well, he did it on a pile of blood

[Initech]

9. The current vice-resident

[Arugula Latte]

10. James Dobson

[Initech]

114. Dobson's antics come off as too cartoonish for him to be taken seriously

He's an ass, that's a given, but he's no true villain.

[JVS]

11. Robert E. Lee

[raccoon]

20. History is written by the victors. If the Revolutionary War had gone

the other way, Benedict Arnold would be remembered as a hero.

[trof]

30. Thanks. I was gonna leave this one alone.

IMHO, Lee was a tragic figure.
Virginians' ties to their birthplace was incredibly strong back then.
Again IMHO, he was guilty of "My (native) country (Virginia), right or wrong" if anything.

[Sequoia]

100. Benedict Arnold was a scapegoat.

He was a hero in the French-Indian War. The Revolutionary War was dragging down and many officers wanted to toss in the towel and it was up to Bennie to lead the way. Of course, when he turned around, he was the only one holding the sack. I'm just saying, there more to this story than the lies we were told in 5th grade history.

[cobalt1999]

22. Robert E. Lee?

Why? He opposed the war, did not want to see Virginia leave the union, was well respected by both sides, and supported much of Reconstruction after the war was over.

Sherman however basically lead a burn, rape, and pillage campaign for fantastic personal gain. After the war he continued to focused on the Indian wars. That is a villain, not Lee.

[Taverner]

26. He was a mixed bag

Not as much of a villain as say, Jefferson Davis, or Nathan Bedford Forrest.

But to take up arms over the right to "own" another person is still very wrong.

[cobalt1999]

29. well...

Lee, based on his own writings before and after the war, was against slavery. He felt a loyalty to his state that was stronger than the slavery issue. Besides, there were many issues between the south and north at the time beyond slavery, and it was not as simplistic as "taking up arms for the right to own another person" for the people at the time.

[Taverner]

48. "...loyalty to his state that was stronger than the slavery issue"

I love California - born and raised here - but over slavery I would gladly fight against her.

[JVS]

49. i salute your integrity

[raccoon]

90. My late uncle, who was born in 1911, hated Sherman with a passion.

Of course, he didn't remember Sherman's march but heard about it from older relatives.

[GoneOffShore]

23. Why?

He was an honorable man with mistaken loyalties. Not genuinely evil.

[JVS]

28. Because he led an attack on my country and my state!

FUCK HIM!

[GoneOffShore]

39. As a child of both the Union and the Confederacy and a citizen of the world,

perhaps I'm not quite as adamant as you are.

Lee as stated above was more of a tragic figure.

Perhaps you need to go and read some more history.

Obviously you are still fighting the Civil War.

Good luck with that. :shrug:

[JVS]

41. Fuck that bullshit. The South is not my homeland and they invaded my homeland.

my family line was almost cut off by fuckers like Lee and I have no tolerance for this "I have to betray the country for the sake of Virginia" bullshit. Don't tell me to read history. Stop glorifying treasonous bastards!

[GoneOffShore]

44. Whatever you say.

I thought the only people still fighting that war were Southerners. Obviously I was wrong.

Have a nice life.

[wildhorses]

45. so the south is not part of your homeland

:wtf:

are we americans or not???

[wildhorses]

33. William Tecumseh Sherman

and everyone who committed treason against england

and every white man over here :sarcasm:

[JVS]

35. Sherman was a great man!

[wildhorses]

37. pfft

:rofl:

[cobalt1999]

46. You're just stirring the pot now.

You almost had me going there...at least that is what I HOPE you are doing.

[hfojvt]

42. I almost mentioned Sherman

by why the slur against white men? A person becomes a villain just by being born with a Y chromosome and melatonin deficiences?

[wildhorses]

43. got carried away

thinking about what america was before the annihilation by the 'white man'

did not mean it 'literally'

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

61. The rebels were the good guys during the revolution.

It was the other way around during the Civil War.

:shrug:

[wildhorses]

68. ----

sheesh.... so thankful that you ALLOW us to continue to be a part of this country...

good guys/bad guys !!!

is it really that simple, is it ever really that simple?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

70. It's usually not that simple, no.

But with the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and WWII, that's about as close as it gets.

[wildhorses]

72. ----

sorry, mea culpa

i was always and forever more suck

[sasquatch]

74. .

:thumbsup:
:rofl:

[underpants]

12. McVeigh

asshole

[JVS]

13. CARRIE NATION

:scared:

[trof]

31. Yeah, and Andrew Volstead!

The Volstead Act.
Prohibition.
Boooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

65. always thought her life would make a great film, though

hatchet weilding old hag busting up saloons. the script writes itself.

[JVS]

76. I think the life of Josip Broz Tito would make a good movie.

But he is neither American, nor a villain.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

66. always thought her life would make a great film, though

hatchet weilding old hag busting up saloons. the script writes itself.

[rug]

14. Henry Clay Frick

[KG]

15. Dan Snyder

[Burma Jones]

92. Agreed.....

[Arugula Latte]

16. Grover Norquist

[GoneOffShore]

17. Roger Ailes

[terrya]

18. Jeffrey Dahmer

[GoneOffShore]

19. Richard Mellon Scaife

[raccoon]

21. Kenneth Effing Lay! nt

[Taverner]

25. Not a person, but Dartmouth v. Woodward

Established Corporations as citizens.

[Taverner]

27. Ted Bundy, President of the College Republicans at University of Washington

[otherlander]

32. Allen Dulles

[Duncan Grant]

34. pabsungenis

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=6267518&mesg_id=6267518

He's an evil genius who must be stopped!!1!1!!

[GoneOffShore]

52. Don't go hating on my man pabsungenis

Just for putting up a thread that he asked to Please Remove.

[Duncan Grant]

53. Let's all say it together: Humor.

My post was just old-fashioned kidding around: a farcicle observation of something topical in the lounge.

Better? or do we have to arm-wrestle over this? :)

[GoneOffShore]

55. Arm wrestle? Only if you tie both hands behind your back.

:freak:


:hippie:

:hi:

[Duncan Grant]

79. If I tie my hands behind my back what will you grab and hold onto?

Oh.









Never mind.

:freak: yourself, bub.

[GoneOffShore]

80. I was only being surrealistic with you

:hi:

[BreweryYardRat]

36. Andrew Jackson.

Trail of Tears, anyone?

[Blue_Tires]

38. guess I'll be the first to mention

J. Edgar Hoover

[LostinVA]

40. Rachael Ray

[GRLMGC]

69. I certainly agree with that nt

[LostinVA]

97. ...

:pals:

[Tektonik]

47. Bill Darden

His company spawned two evils, Red Lobster and the Olive Garden :scared:

[GoneOffShore]

56. And don't forget Ray Croc.

Founded McDonalds.

[GoneOffShore]

57. Earl Butz

[Manifestor_of_Light]

71. I remember the famous comment to Pat Boone.

Whilst on a plane, it was overheard by someone, I forgot who.

Earl Butz was sect of Agriculture and told Pat Boone that black people only wanted three things: "Loose shoes, a tight pussy and a warm place to shit".

This was reported to the media in a censored version and he was outta the Nixon Cabinet.

[Taverner]

67. No no no - the McDonald Brothers founded McDonalds

Ray Kroc bought it from them and made it into what it is today...pre-digested fats and sugars.

[Mendocino]

54. Fred Phelps

He makes me almost wish I believed in hell, just so he could burn.

[lpbk2713]

58. Newt Gingrich

There's more evil in him than you'll find anywhere.

[achtung_circus]

59. Snidely Whiplash

[RedStateShame]

110. Isn't Snidely Whiplash a CANADIAN villain?

Seriously, I dunno. :shrug:

[mzteris]

62. Cheney, Bush, Rove,

Wolfowitz, Perle, Rumsfeld, Rice - - -

basically the entire PNAC group.


They are evil. Knowingly, deliberately, self-servingly evil.

[enigmatic]

63. Art Modell

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

64. j. edgar hoover

an utter disgrace
his name needs stripped from the FBI building

[Manifestor_of_Light]

73. Richard Nixon, Roy Cohn, both helpers of McCarthy.

[Blue-Jay]

75. Pat McGroin

[Richardo]

103. Phil McCracken

[Norrin Radd]

77. Gary Leon Ridgway

666 posts. Yikes!

[Wetzelbill]

82. I read "Defending Gary" by his lawyer, Mark Prothero

last summer. Chilling. A great read though. Fantastic. I highly recommend it.

[Norrin Radd]

112. Yeah, that must have been a tough gig.

[Arugula Latte]

78. Fred Rogers

You heard me. Mr. Fred Frickin' Rogers.

Oh, sure, he SEEMED so nice and mild mannered and helpful...That's how he reeled all of you in, so you wouldn't suspect him of carrying out his unspeakable acts.

[Mad_Dem_X]

85. !

:rofl:

[Wetzelbill]

81. Colonel Baker

massacred 200 Blackfeet on the Marias River.

[taterguy]

83. The Virginia official interviewed on Dateline last night

I don't remember his name, only that he has some position in their Justice Department.

No, it's not too soon to determine if Virginia's gun laws are too lax. 33 people are dead because someone that no one wanted to be in the same room with was able to stroll in and buy an arsenel.

Just admit it.

[Karenca]

84. George bush Senior. eom

[QMPMom]

86. Jeffrey MacDonald, Timothy McVeigh, Joseph McCarthy,

Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Nixon, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Ken Lay, Karl Rove, Spiro Agnew, John Wilkes Boothe, Diane Downs, Aileen Wuornos, John List - and many more.

[malta blue]

87. GWB. Wolfowitz. Cheney. Rummy.

The entire cabal.

[Deep13]

88. Nathan Bedford Forest

founder of the Ku Klux Klan

[formerrepuke]

89. Sam Walton, Ray Kroc, and Robert McNamara..in no particular order.

[PVnRT]

91. Gotta agree with Sherman

I'm no South apologist, but that man was a war criminal.

[Burma Jones]

93. I'd say Reagan, but he was just a spokesmodel - so I nominate Kissinger

[Arugula Latte]

94. Kissinger! Of course!

How could we have made it this far on the list without Henry?

Even that nutbag Chris Hitchens agrees with us on Kissinger.

[noonwitch]

96. Jefferson Davis

Rebel scum

[ronnykmarshall]

101. Paris Hilton

[denverbill]

102. John Wayne Gacy. n/t

[Alexander]

104. Cho Seung-Hui.

Fuck that guy.

BTW, Joseph McCarthy looks a LOT like a cross between Tommy Thompson and Bill O'Reilly.

[ohiosmith]

108. Yep.

BTW, with a little Tony Soprano thrown in.

[maveric]

106. Bull Conner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_Connor

[bamacrat]

107. Rumsfeld, O'riely, Ann Coulter.

[Liberalynn]

109. Ronald Reagan

Never met a weapon of mass destruction he didn't love or insist we needed. He also lead the movement that you shouldn't care whether your neighbors or your fellow citizens needed help. He taught that selfishness and greed were all that was needed and all that was good. Mr.666 himself.

[JackBeck]

111. Roy Cohen.

Hypocritical asshole.

[ohiosmith]

113. Cohn: A seriously creepy fuck.

[JackBeck]

115. Did you see Pacino portray him

in "Angels in America"?

:scared:

[ohiosmith]

116. No. I recall James Woods portraying him in another film.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

118. Dean Corll and Elmer Wayne Henley

Committed mass murders of young boys in 1973 in Houston. Largest mass murder in America at that time. Corll owned the house and Henley killed him to make him stop.
Henley is serving life in prison.

Corll's house was about a mile from where I grew up, and in a very similar 'hood.

[Nicole]

119. Tim McVeigh