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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:07 AM
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Poll question: How do you pronounce RAMEN?
As in ramen noodles (which I like, actually).

I've heard it pronounced RAY-mun (as in rhyming with Reagan), but my brother pronounces it RAH-mun.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:11 AM
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1. When in doubt on a foreign name:
"a" = "ah"
"e" = "ay"
"i" = "ee"
"o" = "oh"
"u" = "ooh"
"y" = "sometimes"

:)
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:36 AM
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6. Wasn't that a song on the Jetsons?
"eep op orp ah ah..
...and that means 'I love you'." :D
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:12 PM
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29. its promounced
Rah-min
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 06:28 PM
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33. I'm used to the first three
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 06:35 PM by sushi
The others:

"o" - depending on the word, sounds like the o in "oh," or in "or"

"u" - sounds like the oo in school.

"y" - depending on the word, sounds like the y in lady, or the i in "mi" - sounds the same.


It's rah men, and I eat plenty of it! I'm a noodle/pasta lover.

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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:11 AM
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2. LO-main.
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:25 AM
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3. "STIE-roe-fome"
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:34 AM
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4. I've always said "ray-men" not "ray-mun"
but definitely and always "ray" at the beginning instead of "rah".

-- Allen

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RamblingRose Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:34 AM
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5. MSG
I like the noodles, but the seasoning packet contains MSG. Does anyone know if they offer a MSG free product?
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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:15 AM
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10. I think there is one out there.
But I usually just don't use the seasoning packet. I cook the noodles, drain them, and put some garlic and parmesan on them.

Welcome to DU!

:hi:
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:47 AM
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7. The Japanese "e"
is pronounced "eh" as in "men" (ie: "police-men"). (The terminal "n" get's a fuller sound than if it were an initial "n", but it's not a big deal; don't sweat it). The "ra" is as stated above, pronounced as "rah".

I don't speak Spanish, but I've been assured that the Japanese vowels have essentially the same pronunciation. Of course it's been "Anglicized", so the original rules are pretty well toothless.

pnorman
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:26 AM
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8. Actually it's RAH MEN...
;)
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:53 AM
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9. If you want to go for a 100% Japanese pronunciation,
try pronouncing the "R" as a cross between an "R" and an "L", and stretch that "ah" sound a bit so it comes out like "ahh". The "men" part is pronounced the same as in English.

By the way, here's a bit of trivia-- the Japanese name "ramen" literally means "crushed noodles".

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Interrobang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:29 AM
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14. Right.
But it's also easier just to say "raa-men" so as not to freak the mundanes completely.

People who say "ray-men" are like people from The Soo, who say "baaah-gel." Sheesh.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 12:25 PM
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19. Former Japanese teacher
seconding what Art said.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:44 AM
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11. I pronounce it "crackhead soup"
I just spell it R-A-M-E-N.
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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:05 AM
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12. I say "ray-men" just to drive my husband crazy.
He is learning Japanese and he corrects me every time I say it. I know it's incorrect, but it's fun to screw with him.


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OldSoldier Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:28 AM
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13. Neither
It's "rahm-yon."

No one who was ever stationed in Korea will ever call it "ramen." It's "ramien" or "ramyon" depending on how you transliterate it.

The best ramyon is Everything Ramyon. Take a bowl of ramyon (the Korean ramyon houses made it with a real thick broth I still haven't figured out how to duplicate, and I've been trying), add meat--ham and shrimp are best, some people like squid--and stir. Drop a raw egg on it and stir until it cooks. Add a slice of cheese and serve. The cheese will melt over the ramyon. Sprinkle some Korean soy sauce on it and eat with chopsticks.
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Interrobang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:35 AM
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15. Eat Sapporo Ichiban instead!
I feel sorry for your having been stationed in Korea. There really isn't much Korean food I find edible, and I really LIKE most other Asian food (Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, Cambodian, Indonesian, Malay, etc.) I've ever tried.

Eat the Japanese kind instead; then you can say "ramen" without a guilty conscience, and you won't be subjected to any more soba soups with broths made of equal parts beef blood, water, salt, and chili oil. (Incidentally, Kikkoman is the best brand of soy sauce, too, although if you must substitute, get some ketsiap manis instead.)
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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:54 AM
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17. psshhht, Korean ramyeon pisses all over Japanese ramen from a great height
And I can say that as someone who has eaten ramyeon in both Korea and Japan. And Korean food in general is great, very healthy and delicious.

The everything ramyeon Old Soldier was talking about it actually called buddae chikgae. It's a stew that poor Koreans ate after the Korean war (and there were a lot of them). They basically took scraps thrown out from US bases and put them into boiling hot water along with kimchi and noodles.


In comparison to Shin Ramyeon, Sapporo Ichiban tastes like watery cardboard. However, there are many decent, reasonably priced ramen restaurants in Japan (especially Fukuoka), so I don't think many people in Japan eat the packaged stuff.

But I'll stand by my heading.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 12:21 PM
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18. Not much korean food? Are you KIDDING? I LOVE korean food
and find it diverse and wonderful.

There are scores of korean bbq joints and restaurants here in LA that we just can't get enough of.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:12 PM
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23. Sad.....I lived in the boonies of Korea for 2 1/2 years, and
my wife is Korean, so I can tell you happily, you must not have gotten the good stuff. Korean food is great! Japanese food is okay, too, but Korean's got it beat IMHO and I've had a fair sampling of both. Korean soups are especially wonderful; it's really more a cold weather cuisine than hot weather (there's a lot of different preserved food, ie, pickles, dried, etc). The Koreans always figure Americans want meat, so they put that front-and-center, but of the side-dishes (which means what you eat besides rice), the vegetable dishes are most tasty.
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OldSoldier Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:02 PM
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24. Ask your wife how to make radish kimchi
Or is it turnip kimchi?

My favorite Korean restaurant in the whole world: go out the Camp Coiner gate--both open onto the same street--go into the ville, go a block past the 175-step staircase and turn right. There is, or at least was in 1985, a little hole in the wall that had the best food. Get yourself a bowl of kimchi chigi or everything ramyon and you're set for the rest of the day.

Sometimes I'd get one of the meat dishes. With them came nine different kinds of kimchi. The best one was the radish (or turnip) kimchi.

Unfortunately, none of the Korean restaurants around here have it. They of course have horrible cabbage kimchi and a fairly decent bean sprout kimchi, but never radish (turnip) kimchi. So now I gotta learn how to make it. We do have Korean grocery stores here, but none of them have it and I've tried them all. When you ask one of the clerks for help, it's always "very hard to make." I tried that shit with rice. "How do you cook this?" "Very hard to make." IOW, fuck off, American scum, we'll never give up the secrets of the Korean kitchen! Well shit, man, if you people would start carrying ondol bricks so I'd have proper cooking fuel, I could master the Korean kitchen.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:53 PM
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31. Ya have to know the word....
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 05:53 PM by Snow
you can make kimchi out of just about anything, but what you're taking about is little cubes of white radishy stuff, right? Okay, the radish is a big honking white tuber thing roughly the size and shape of your forearm. The Korean word for that is 'mooo' - and the kimchi you make from it, which should be for sale 'cuz everyone eates it and people don't have time to make it, is - okay, let's see if I can romanize this so you'll be able to pronounce it - where's Kimika when I need her - anyway, this should work 'gawk-doo-gee' That should do the trick. If they still pretend ignorance, tell them you're talking about 'mooo kimchee'. Good luck. If none of that works, whistle & I'll dig up some (*snicker*) something resembling a recipe, which I should warn you, no self-respecting Korean ever uses. It's not that tough to make, if you can do pickles.
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LeftistGorilla Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:17 PM
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30. sorry Bro....
Korean foods OWNS!
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101 Proof Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:36 AM
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16. RAH-mun....
I should know this. I'm a college student who's been living on that $hit for 2 1/2 years now. :(
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 12:27 PM
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20. Is it true Everybody loves Ramen?
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:03 PM
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28. Somebody had to make that joke...
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:49 PM
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21. nas-TEE, or ee-YUK
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:57 PM
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22. Ecky ecky ecky ecky, bih-kang, zoop-boing, zowenzum.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:04 PM
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25. It's spelled "Raymond Luxury Yacht",
but it's pronounced "Throatwarbler Mangrove".
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:43 PM
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26. In Hawai'i it is pronounced "saimin" (sigh-MIN)
You'd be surprised exactly how popular hot noodle soup is in the islands, partcularly during our recent cold snap when overnight lows have been testing 70! :-) The product known elsewhere as "ramen" (RAH-min) is referred to as "dry saimin".

Local comic legend Frank De Lima even has a song about it:

You have to pull the noodles out,
Or breathe them back in,
So don't sneeze when you eat saimin!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:47 PM
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27. You can get saimin at McDonald's in Hawaii.
I was a hamburger kid, but mom would take me to McDonald's because she could have saimin. :D
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:56 PM
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32. Just noticed something everybody missed...
Japanese language (and Korean) does not stress syllables. Don't try to put an accent anywhere, jsut make it all evenly stressed. This (from experience) can be very tricky at first.
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