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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:12 AM
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A Question About Gay PDA
OK, so this is probably going to be the stupidest question you've ever heard but inquiring minds want to know so here goes.

I've been fortunate enough to have had many gay friends over the years and I've noticed that when my gay coupled friends visit there is rarely, if ever, public displays of affection. Now I realize that not everyone is comfortable with PDA's -- straight or gay. It's just that I've noticed this consistently over the last 30+ years with gay couples.

So, do you think this is just coincidence? If not, are gay couples often more reticent to PDA's -- even in a "safe" environment such as my home or around my husband and I?

Should I even be asking this question?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:13 AM
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1. I didn't know that there were gay Palm Pilots
Were they programmed that way, or is it a lifestyle choice? :evilgrin:
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:23 AM
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4. Are you going to be my
problem child today? (Goddess, I swear there's one in every group.);-) B-)
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:33 AM
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12. Oh, I had that same joke
in my head when I saw the thread.

Sorry. Carry on.
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jimbo fett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:16 AM
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2. I so rarely see gay/lesbian PDA that I'm shocked when I do.
If I were gay, I would probably be a little reluctant to show affection in public. You never know what some homophobes will do...
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:20 AM
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3. No matter where we are
Mrs. V. and I rarely share PDAs. We're quite private about such things. Even if we have guests in our home -- nope. The only time we kiss in public is in going our separate ways on the way to work, and maybe we'll hold hands in a movie.

I think if we gay folk are reticent to show affaction in public, it's not because we fear offending anyone but because we don't want offense to be taken. There is a tremendous double standard between the public behavior of straight couples vs. that of gay couples.

Example: When she's gotten off the train, I've given Mrs. V. a "have a good day" peck, and as the train starts up again I've gotten numerous looks that kill and one comment: "Can't you people leave that behind closed doors?"

Can you imagine that I'd get the same reaction if I were a man?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:25 AM
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8. WTF?!
"Can't you people leave that behind closed doors?"

What is WITH some people? Honestly! Showing love and affection for another human being is disgusting somehow? :argh:
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:48 AM
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17. Amazing, isn't it?
Mrs. V. has a ready answer, although so far she hasn't been able to use it. It goes something like this:

"What, you're afraid to see/for your child to see love?"
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:29 AM
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10. But my question has to do
with being in a "safe" environment -- such as my home. I can understand (sort of) about the public thing -- one never knows when there are 'phobes around -- but what about when you're in someone's home who really doesn't give a shit what you're sexual orientation is (or eye color or shoe size for that matter). I'm just curious.

Btw, my husband and I are infamous for our PDA's and often hear the "get a room" comments from strangers. What a stupid thing about which to get one's panties in a bunch.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:47 AM
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16. yeah, I rather missed your point, Taz
In our own home, still, we pretty much keep it under wraps. I can't really say why.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:31 AM
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11. Yeah! Why Are You CONSTANTLY Flaunting It??? How DARE YOU!!
Quit shoving your lifestyle down our throats! What will the CHILDREN think? SINNER! Get a room!

-- Allen :hi:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:24 AM
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5. When Doug and I are together, we definitely share PDA's.
We hold hands when we're out (including walking down the street and on the subway). And we hug and kiss hello and goodbye.

It's only shameful if you treat it as such. And there is, not now or ever, ANYTHING shameful about displaying love and affection. Straight or gay.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:58 AM
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18. Definitely not shameful.
Still, it's scary.

More power to you, bud. :)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:24 AM
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6. there's little
that could expose you to more danger than pda in this country.
that's really the bottom of it -- remember we are still in physical danger in this culture.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:24 AM
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7. Nearly all gay people are conditioned against it, I think.
Unless you live in San Francisco or West Hollywood, there are few places that being openly affectionate is comfortable, I don't care how out you are. Even if the tidal wave of gay marriage sweeps all legal barriers away, it will still be a long time before all people feel 100% equal in public.

Dirk
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:28 AM
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9. The way bigots complain about gay people
You'd think they were having sex on the street. In my conservative town, there is an Episcopal church that is very tolerate of gays. My son's friend's mom, a member of that church, has complained that the gay member are engaging in PDA, and that disturbs her in front of the kids.

First of all, why? And second of all, bullshit. I'm with you Le Taz Hot. I rarely see gay men or women doing anything like that in public.
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:37 AM
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13. I don't put my woman in a lip-lock
but we are affectionate in public. When she leaves for work, I kiss her. I always let the one I love, know that she is loved.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:35 AM
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14. We don't engage in PDA's for 2 reasons
Edited on Tue Jan-06-04 11:37 AM by Rowdyboy
1. It would be physically dangerous in the south

2. My partner and I were both raised to believe that it was inappropriate behavior for anyone. My freshman year in college I was STUNNED that people would engage in deep throat kissing while standing in the cafeteria line. Usually made me lose my appetite.

We do have 1/2 dozen close friends that we will hug or lightly kiss in front of.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:41 AM
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15. I think the problem is actually straight PDA's
Used to be you didn't see much in way of PDA's at all.

Lately I see stuff going on in the street that would've been banned in porn videos not so long ago.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 12:26 PM
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19. Don't care for PDA's of ANY persuasion....
I mean, c'mon, GET A ROOM! I wish my fellow breeders were more reserved, like our cousins...

Noisy, wet kissing, ass-grabbing, package-handling...YECH!
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 12:32 PM
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20. Bleahh. PDAs, regardless of who's doing them revolt me
I was reading outside a Dunkin's, last summer, and a guy and girl were busy seeing how far they could get their tongues down each other's throats without oxygen.

Had to get up and leave.


Get a room, fer crying out loud.
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