Just saw Donnie Darko recently...

[Dookus]

:wtf:

[okieinpain]

1. yeah, I need to watch that one again. I loved the image at the end.

[RandomKoolzip]

2. "Well, why don't you suck a fuck?"

On edit: putting the subject line in quotes so that readers will realize that it's a quote from the film. Hi, Dookus! As Deiter might say, your sig pic never fails to pull down my trousers and taunt me!


I love that movie....a genuinely moving, strange masterpiece. (except for Drew Barrymore's utterly gratuitous vanity role as a teacher...why do people call her an actor? She's window decoration that talks, badly).

[Dookus]

3. my my....

such language!

It's a movie. Relax.

[ronzo]

4. I believe that's a quote from DD...

I'm sure it wasn't personal. :)

[Dookus]

5. Whew!

I couldn't quite figure out what caused the vehemence! LOL

[RandomKoolzip]

6. Sorry!

I thought you'd get the reference and laugh! I meant no offense to anyone....

[Dookus]

9. heheh...

no problem.

But while you're here....

EXPLAIN that movie to me!

[RandomKoolzip]

12. Well, I saw it in the theater, so it's been a while.

Apparently, Donnie has a friend who's a rabbit, and Patrick Swayze is a self-help guru, and there's this meteorite, and Tears for Fears is on the soundtrack.....

How's that for clarity?

[Dookus]

13. yup!

that's the movie I saw, too.

I didn't understand it very well, but that Jake Gyllenhaal is a real cutiepie.

[RandomKoolzip]

14. And his sister Maggie....

Is a fox of the highest order...yowza!


Think of the movie of a Christ parable, as my friend tried to after seeing it, and you'll just be more confused.

[Dogmudgeon]

7. In Defense of Drew Barrymore

She's one of the best actresses around today, if you've ever seen any of her non-"adorable" performances.

I remember once I rented Never Been Kissed and Poison Ivy. Talk about your sweet-and-sour entrees! NBK was watchable, but not one of the greats; PI was one of the nastiest sex thrillers I've seen in a long time.

She's also one of the more perceptive producers around today -- and it's not all just chick flicks, either. Donny Darko was the first production from her company, Flower Films; Charlie's Angels was the cash cow.

Nancy Juvonen is her business/artistic partner; I'm sure her name will also become better recognized as time goes by.

There is certainly more to the woman than honey and treacle, and it will endure long after her appeal to the skirt-chaser set has faded.

--bkl
A DB fan from "Firestarter" onward.

[Dookus]

10. i love Drew Barrymoore....

but I agree that she was entirely superfluous in that movie. I couldn't figure out why she was even in it, until the credits rolled and saw she was one of the producers of it.

[RandomKoolzip]

11. She has her fans, but I'm not one of them.

To me, it seems like she plays herself in every film she's in...and her persona is that of a giggly valley girl who overdosed on tube tops and mochaccinos at the Gap. No offense, I just think she's a poor actor. I'm certainly glad she financed DD, but she really should have had the decency to not forcibly insert herself into the movie.

[Dogmudgeon]

17. The (Drew) Barrymore Persona (and more worship)

For Your Consideration ...

I understand that personal taste is fickle (and yet inviolate), but I'd like to offer a few observations for fans and/or foes of Drew Barrymore. Here's a few to "chew on", if you're inclined to take the challenge:

Firestarter -- She was an adorable little girl, who, none the less, was in mortal danger, and she knew it, and more to the point, the audience felt it. A very intense performance for a seven-year-old kid.

Guncrazy -- A run-away teenager who had been raped joins up with a psychotic killer of a boyfriend. Another painful part that will blow you away.

Poison Ivy -- Drew as a sociopath who exploits a young lesbian's attraction to her, to destroy an entire family. The five-second-long sex scene with Tom Skerritt was the most emotionally horrifying I'd seen since the end of Carnal Knowlege.

Ever After -- In spite of the Cuteness of Her Drewness, she's still an abused girl in the movie, and an intellectual young woman in a time when an intellectual young woman usually ended up at the bottom a local well. The scene with one of the stepdaughters after she has been flogged is both difficult and satisfying to watch, one of DB's talents. The antagonistic interaction and screen chemistry with Anjelica Houston was nothing short of amazing, and made me an Anjelica fan, too.

I haven't seen all of her movies, but she's capable of doing some very heavy acting. She may still not be to your taste, but the well-known persona just doesn't do her work justice.

Incidentally, this isn't based on some crush I have on Ms. Barrymore -- I don't. I'm not a big fan of her photographic looks, but that's not what acting is about. All of us Manly Men :) like looking at a cutie, but to watch somebody breathe life into an otherwise mediocre part (e.g., Guncrazy) is a thrill far beyond that of adolescent movie-palace sexual stirrings. If Drew is still around and acting at 90, she'll still almost certainly be able to command that same magic so few actors in any age have.

--bkl

[ronzo]

8. Truly twisted cinema!

You really have to see it twice. They used to have a pretty cool official website that gave some extra insight.

Hey, it's still there. Check it out.
http://donniedarko.com/

Neat flick.

[Khephra]

15. It's one of my favorite films of last year

Along with "MAY", which is actually coming on cable in about 12 minutes.

[Dookus]

16. please....

EXPLAIN it to me!

[Khephra]

18. Donnie learned how to time travel

and changed everyone's fate. What's difficult about that?

:shrug:

(Not meaning to sound smartass, but I don't get what people don't get about the film. It seemed pretty straightforward to me. Maybe it helps having been raised on Philp K Dick and Robert Anton Wilson. :shrug: )

[Dookus]

19. well...

the whole mental illness thing implied to me that he didn't REALLY learn to time-travel. But he thought he did.

But if it's as simple as you say, ok.

[Khephra]

20. It's a standard "out" for stories like this

If he acted totally sane then there wouldn't be much of a question about his reality. If you throw in the question of authorial/character sanity you automatically have a psychological horror/sf story instead of a straightforward horror/sf story.