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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 03:53 PM Original message |
Why do they implant a pacemaker into a 87years old woman??? |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Was it her choice? Maybe she wanted to hike a trail in the mountains. |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That woman is my grandmother |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Different story. I see what you mean now. Did your mother/father help make that decision? |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Nobody in the family was asked |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Oh, well that makes a difference. |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. My grandmother is not in the place to make that decision |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. So, I get it. Yep, that sucks. |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I'm not sure if it works the same way there as it does here but, |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. To get that the guardianship they have to check on my grandma |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. This is a decision made with her, her family, and her doctor. There are quite a few |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The decision was made without the family |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Sorry. I didn't know the particulars when I first posted. I think you're right. |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. She was commited to the hospital because she fainted |
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billyskank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. She IS her family |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Thanks billy |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. maybe to keep her alive? |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. She had slight hearth rythm disturbance |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. "Does it really make sense to keep people alive on every cost???" |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. I believe in letting people die with dignity |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
11. If it was her choice, then let it be. If they forced it into against her will, |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Can you really say that a dement woman can make her own choices? |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. No, I can't. But you didn't mention anything about dementia in the OP. |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I wrote the op without much thinking |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. I work in a retirement center |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. But why not talk to the family as well |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. See my post #19 |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I miss my father as well |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. It's always a very hard decision |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Thank you |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I understand all too well |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Thank you hippywife |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I'm glad your aunt is |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
23. Why wouldn't you? I don't understand why we would give... |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Because age is the end of the life |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Ok, fair enough, so you must be against stem-cell research then... |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. No I am not against stem-cell research |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. But, if everything else is in working order, why not give... |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Because not everything else is in working order |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
36. In the case of my grandmother, she might have at least |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. My father died about 5 years ago |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. It's so true. My grandmother lost her mobility last year |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. My aunt told me today again |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Exactly. There are also the ill person's wishes to consider. |
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MissHoneychurch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I will fill out a living will |
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slj0101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
45. Ageist much? |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I see you're a bit of a newbie, so I won't get on your case...much. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Mmm, of all the arguments for reading the entire thread before you post... |
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slj0101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Yeah, I fucked up, didn't I? |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
46. It sounds like the whole familiy is in agreement |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
49. My great aunt was diagnosed with breast cancer at age 85. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
50. I Doubt They Would Have Done It If She Weren't In Pretty Good Health |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
51. Such things are usually up to the individual. Dementia complicates things |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
52. If there is no power of attorney, and she consents |
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wildhorses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
53. oh honey--i have read enough of this thread to know that what |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
54. if your grandma has "good days" then you OWE IT TO HER to find out |
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Hotler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-15-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
55. easier to bump-start, kinda like a motorcycle |
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AirmensMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-16-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
57. Aw, MissHC, I'm sorry. |
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