Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Verdi's Requiem

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:36 AM
Original message
Verdi's Requiem
Wiener Philharmoniker/Karajan, Tomowa-Sintow, Baltsa, Carreras, van Dam

(Sorry, can't just link you to YouTube for a taste...:shrug:...this is purely audio magic)



Divine!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:41 AM
Response to Original message
1. That's an absolutely beautiful piece.
I'm assuming that this particular performance is especially good?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:52 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. Really really beautiful!
It's a beautiful recording.

I was with the MET opera for 5 years, and got to know an awful lot of Verdi---gratefully---along with many others, and it's a real treat now. I aleady knew of this work (as a kid, my folks had the record) as it's quite dramatic and famous, but got a deepened feeling for Verdi's melodic lines and excellent orchestrations and use of choral voices too. First time I've listened to this in awhile, and enjoying it a lot.

The vocal soloists on this one are stellar (Cararas the Tenor---and---Jose Van Dam are quite famous and accomplished too)...orchestra is wonderful, as well.

Shakespeare, we've got to catch up on our music conversation some time....

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:55 AM
Response to Reply #5
8. I am ALWAYS happy to talk about music.
I'm loading some random overtures on my new iPod right now (have been uploading CDs all day, and I think I'm going cross-eyed from sorting out all the playlists....).

And now I wanna hear that recording.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. I love to talk about it too, but
in our earlier exchanges, I hope I didn't leave you an impression that I have an overly large exposure to it. I have a hugely eclectic ear and collection of things, but many are old and odd or narrow in scope. And I am very very poorly schooled in music coming out in the last ten-or-so years, so a lot of my friends' playlists are met with my blank stare...I just don't know the names and what to associate with them.
:shrug:

And hey, the appearance of David Byrne on my MySpace friends? Yeah I wish we were buds! I wrote him and asked for his permission to add a piece of his music to my page (from The Catherine Wheel)...he did not reply yea or nay, just "added" me as a friend. Happy for that, but kinda hollow...he never messages me or anything, LOL.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:06 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. Uhmmm hello?
You have a myspace page? And I'm not a friend....:( I weep.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:19 AM
Response to Reply #12
17. C'mon, in...lotsa cobwebs, a real fixer-upper.
:/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:24 AM
Response to Reply #17
20. linky linky loo
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:08 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. YOU MEAN YOU'RE NOT BEST BUDS WITH DAVID BYRNE?!
I'm so disappointed. ;-)

Nah, I figured that was the case--mostly what I use my myspace page for is to keep tabs on my favorite writers and musicians (and the odd baseball player), so mine resembles yours in that way.

We're both pretty eclectic in music taste, it appears. I've had some training in it, but I'm not sure it makes me any better exposed to it than you've been. I just really, really love it--and almost all kinds. So. There. :-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:44 AM
Response to Original message
2. Verdi is dead?! Link?
Nothing on CNN about it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:47 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. ....
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:48 AM
Response to Original message
4. But I want to hear it!
x(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. I will try to find a link to something....
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:54 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. If you have the mp3
I'll give you my email addy and you can send it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:56 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. Please!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. Check your pm sir. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 03:13 AM
Response to Reply #9
25. Yay I finally got it!
Thank you. :hug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 03:14 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. Any ole time...
:hug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hickman Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:07 AM
Response to Original message
13. Is it better than Mozart's? I'm looking for the music to put in my will.
I always thought if it was good enough for Beethoven. If Verdi is better where do I find it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:23 AM
Response to Reply #13
18. Well, I'd be out of my depth to say whose is "better"
as they both have huge merits while both are really products of their times and both composers' accumulated careers.... :shrug: There is definitely a style difference between them, so such a choice depends on you.

On their face, though, Verdi's is bigger and much longer, if that makes a diff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hickman Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:49 AM
Response to Reply #18
22. Drum, bla, bla bla.
Which is the one that will give comfort to my surviving family? I suspect Mozart. He was the first and the best.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:54 AM
Response to Reply #22
23. In those terms (bla bla bla)
I'd go with the Verdi (specifically, see Reply #15.)

Sorry my prior answer left room for consideration or shades of grey, but it sounds like you already had your choice anyway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hickman Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 03:08 AM
Response to Reply #23
24. I apologies. I talk stupid sometimes.
Edited on Sun Jan-07-07 03:12 AM by hickman
I think I was wanting a link to Verdi's Requiem. I'm also getting old and opposed to change. Mozart saved me in the tough years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 03:14 AM
Response to Reply #24
26. I hear ya.
Mozart and Tchaikovsky helped me pass in school, once I learned that the heavy metal on the radio was for after-homework times.

No hard feelings, m'friend. :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hickman Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 03:22 AM
Response to Reply #26
28. I'm sorry for the crappy spelling.
Everything froze. I learned about Mozart from a college friend who played Uriah Heep all the time. She said you play the up and the down, and live in the middle.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:08 AM
Response to Original message
15. The Requiem Aeternam segment of Libera Me...
sends me to some subliminal paradise, when the right soprano is singing. What ethereal music!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:23 AM
Response to Reply #15
19. amen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:09 AM
Response to Original message
16. Well, hell.
I was just about to post about Verdi's Requiem and here you've gone and stolen my thunder. :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:25 AM
Response to Reply #16
21. Damn, and I thought "Just maybe, at 2:30 AM on a Saturday night..."
Edited on Sun Jan-07-07 02:45 AM by Drum
snort!

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 11:10 AM
Response to Original message
29. Have you performed it?
I am a Soprano (classically trained) and I have to say that the soprano part will let you know if you still have the chops! I thouroghly enjoyed the experience, that's for sure! I found it to be one of the more difficult parts, and I trained for six years. Of course I also loved singing both the Mozart and Brahms Requiems, too. However, the most fun I had might just have been Beethoven's Choral Fantasy. Lots of good memories! :)

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. I've performed it twice
It's really a lot of fun, probably the only Requiem that could be staged, given some imagination. It probably has been, for all I know. I too have done the Mozart and Brahms, though I'm not fond of the latter. I've also done Faure's (aaaahhhh) and Britten's, made me cry as well as nearly scream in pain. I stood right in front of the organ, this one:



I too have been in the Choral Fantasy, that's a real riot. We did it with Jon Kimura Parker, who, incidentally, had been in a summer class in Banff with Mrs. Ironflange long ago. It was very funny during the dress rehearsal, when the full choir and band came in he literally jumped up in surprise, it was his first time doing the piece. He told me later that it felt like being hit by a ton of bricks.

For sheer fun, you can't beat Carmina Burana, especially the male parts.

I haven't sung in the big choir for many years now, but I had gotten it out of my system. I don't miss it. What I do miss is the small ensembles in university, particularly the early music.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. Totally agree about Carmina Burana!
I've done that one at least twice, maybe even three times (it seemed to be a favorite of University conductors in the late 80's-early 90's).

I do have a soft spot for Mr. Orff, considering I am a certified Orff instructor. His partner in teaching (and some say personally) was Gunild Keetman. Some of her stuff is really fun!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #29
34. Mercy, not me!
I mean, SURE, I've conducted it numerous times here in my home...naturally! :D

No...I don't sing or play in the orchestra. I was one of the non-vocal participants: dancer, "super" and wardrobe/costume person. It was fascinating, and a lucrative job, but truly the music was the biggest gift for me. My (already considerable) esteem for singers and musicians was so illuminated, and therefore increased. It truly made me a different dancer and artist.

:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 11:29 AM
Response to Original message
30. Why, I recently performed this
with Goddess of Guinness no less........

Verdi was really scared of dying.................
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. It sure is intense.
It's been awhile since I opened that booklet and read along, but it sure sounds like what you write.

Very cool that you just performed it, and with Goddess of Guinness no less! :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 04:36 PM
Response to Original message
33. I've been playing it all day....
Well, what you've sent thus far anyway.

Thank you. It is beautiful. :hug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 02:14 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC