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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:43 AM
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Poll question: Forget technique, who's the "scariest" guitarist?
By scariest I mean the one who creates a tone & ambience in the guitar that goes right down into your bones and taps that sense of the existential angst of existence. I don't mean frightening or evil exactly, which is why I haven't listed, for example, Jimmy Page.
Also haven't put Hendrix on here even though I think the sound he gets out of the guitar on Machine Gun on the Band of Gypsies album epitomizes what I'm thinking of -- because Hendrix is so much more.

I've included the other option of course to avoid making it a push poll & so that I can be educated or reminded of someone I haven't thought of.
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:44 AM
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1. Zappa
n/t
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:50 AM
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3. Hear Hear ...
If you're cute, maybe you're beautiful. There are more of us ugly motherfuckers than you are. Hey ...

Cheers
Drifter
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:52 AM
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4. It was a complement
what he could do with a guitar was unnatural...scary, even...
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:55 AM
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8. It is, of course, Mr. Frank Zappa
Ferocious, audacious, musical.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:46 AM
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2. Belew
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:53 AM
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6. Yeah, Belew, Kevin Shields, Thurston and Lee from Sonic Youth,
Dave Navarro, Joey Santiago, Jonny Greenwood,
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:52 AM
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5. That would me moi
If you judge by people running away in terror!
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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:54 AM
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7. Stevie Vai
"Bad Horsey" weird, absolutely weird, scary weird. So weird in fact that they named the Wah Wah pedal used in the song after the song.

Say what you want about him (he was always a little too girly looking for my tastes), but he plays with an astonishing command and control of his instrumant. He is truly a master.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:54 PM
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27. A second for Vai...
His sound is just sick!!!
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:00 AM
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9. Tommy Bolin
nt
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:03 AM
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10. Dimebag Darrell
Although this will likely be his only vote.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:03 AM
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11. so far excellent -- give me more!


I almost put Zappa and Moore and Renaldo on the list, but decided to hold back just to let Other have its due. & so I could put a couple not usually thought of.
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Saudade Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:03 AM
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12. Sonny Sharrock
No doubt.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:05 AM
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14. sonny is on
the box set of Tribute to Jack Johnson by Miles Davis that just came out. (He's not on the original album) turns out he was in the studio sessions, after all. McLaughlin does some pretty scary stuff on that album and the box set also.
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Saudade Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:09 AM
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15. True
McGlaughlin was pretty scary in those sessions.

Sharrock with Last Exist is quite terrifying.
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jimbo fett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:05 AM
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13. Michael Hedges -- in a mellow sort of way.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:15 AM
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16. Wray.
Listen to "Deuces Wild," and then tell me I'm wrong.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:24 AM
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18. I'm not saying you're wrong!
I'm not saying who my vote goes for (I vote for them all, really), but I did put Link at the top of the list, if that means anything.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:23 AM
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17. Alex St. Clair and Zoot Horn Rollo
of Captain Beefheart's Magic Band
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:29 AM
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19. Scary monsters
Lotta good answers so far.

And props on you for including John Cippolina, who's been a hero of mine for years. Although I think you can argue that the scariest work in the Quicksilver oeuvre was actually Duncan's-- all that overdubbed flamenco madness in "Calvary," for instance.

Which leads me to the notion that some guitar solos are scary because the music is scary. As a case in point, I would point to Robin Trower back in the Procol Harum days, specifically the solo in "In Held Twas In I" (after the "Autumn of my Madness" bit) and all over the Home album ("Whiskey Train," "About to Die," "Whaling Stories," etc.). I'm not saying Robin isn't a redoubtable guitarist, but I don't think he reaches the same depths of terror in his solo work, despite that his take on the blues is way more emotional than formal.

Same goes for Tom Verlaine. I think his solos work because his riffs give him so much emotional energy to build on. You could put Richard Thompson in that category too.

I would be remiss if I didn't mention Fred Frith (Henry Cow/Art Bears/Aqsak Maboul/Golden Palominos, and a remarkable solo career too). Much of his composed music has the same property as above, that the harmonic vocabulary is already pretty scary. He's also an amazing free improviser, however, and in that medium he can still be scary-- and yet he can also be tender, or goofy, or parodistic. He's probably my favorite guitarist in the world anyway.

Other scary improvisers include Henry Kaiser, Eugene Chadbourne, Nick Didkovsky, Davey Williams, and all the other guys who owe much of their lineage to Derek Bailey. This is all weird Knitting Factory type stuff, so your mileage may vary, but in a lot of ways it's the scariest stuff out there.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:41 AM
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21. How could I forget Chadbourne???
Edited on Wed Dec-31-03 10:53 AM by 56kid
... possibly the scariest & I've seen him at the Knitting Factory
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 11:01 AM
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22. He's much scarier when playing the electric rake.
n/t
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 11:05 AM
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23. LOL
another time I saw him doing a banjo duet with Tony Trischka-- a Thelonious Monk medley on banjo. Now THAT was truly scary:nuke:
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:32 AM
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20. Andy Gill
Andy Gill's style back in his days with Gang of Four is tapped into my subconcious.

Palm muting with reverb. Over the top distortion with screaming sustain.

I really dig Andy's playing. Punk, political, funky and scary. All at the same time.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 11:52 AM
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24. Tie between Hubert Sumlin and Robert Fripp...
"Smokestack Lightning" and "Baby's on Fire"
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:36 PM
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25. Fripp, Buckethead, Ed Wynne, Frith, "Blood" Ulmer
McLaughlin (in his distortion days), Sonny Sharrock, Jeff Beck.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:02 PM
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31. Ulmer
Edited on Wed Dec-31-03 01:06 PM by 56kid
is playing in NYC tonight. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go see him. I'll report back.
(unless I go see Mike Patton with John Zorn, I'm leaning towards Ulmer though)
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:33 PM
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34. Enjoy
Reggie Lucas, Mike Stern and Bill Connors (RTF era) have also had their tweeter-tearing moments.

Roy Buchanan is one of my favorites (had the privilege of interviewing him back in the 80's - a real gentleman), as is the late, great Danny Gatton.
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:40 PM
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26. For me, it was Roy Buchanan
just plain wicked.

:scared:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:58 PM
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29. Well then get yourself some Ronnie Earl...he's got the tone
and the shred..listen to Greenlight and tell me you don't hear shades of Buchanan in it.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:36 PM
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35. I saw Earl live some 5 or 6 years ago
I have his "Colour of Love" album, and thought it would be fun to catch him at my favorite dive in Seattle.

He just blew me away beyond my wildest expectations. The single most powerful blues guitarist I had seen since SRV in 1985.

You could have peeled me off the floor like a ZombyDecal at the end.

I have a tremendous regard for Ronnie Earl.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:45 PM
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41. When A Guitar Plays The Blues
His 1985 Alligator Records release, is pure fire. It smokes beyond anything else he did.

What can you say about a guy that Jeff beck paid homage to on his best album, and was once nearly offered a spot as the first American member of the Stones?
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 08:32 PM
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56. Roy, fore sure
Saw him up close right before he hung himself (booze demons), and he shook me to the core...bent the strings right off the neck.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:58 PM
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28. Kevin Shields or Dean Wareham
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Dees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:01 PM
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30. Neil Giraldo is pretty darn scary.....n/t
.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:08 PM
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32. The thing I always like about Fripp...
... is that he can shred loudly or quietly. To me, shredding loudly is relatitively easy. Few can shred quietly.

Alas, Mr. Fripp has done little shredding since, say the early 90s.

I guess intense music is pretty much a younger man's game :(
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:10 PM
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33. Some you know- some you don't
My all-time favorite guitarist is a guy bu the name of Doyle Dykes..so much so, I bought his guitar from him..A Taylor prototype that became one of their models

you can hear a sample here (he's acoustic - but the samples really don't do him justice..he shreds and was one of Chet Atkin's favorite players)

http://www.doyledykes.com/doyle/store/music.htm

On the electris side, it's a Kentuck by the name of Ben Lacy

again samples are here DO CLICK ON CASHMERE..yes CASHMERE...a chord melody of the Zeppelin song.

http://www.benlacy.com/downloads.html

However..when it comes to tone, style and flavor..it is the post Ventures solo work of Nokie Edwards, their lead guitar player.

His site is here but no samples *sniff*

http://www.nokieedwards.org/biography3.htm

But when it comes to mainstream music...tone style and the ability to haunt with his notes...the winner is Carlos Santana...there isn't anyone doing it as well as consistently and as long as him.


OF those gone and departed...Segovia could get me with every note.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 02:53 PM
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46. Doyle Dykes
is absolutely amazing...!

Holdsworth scared me a couple of times.....you could be listening to him and you would have to stop and say, "what the hell was that?"

Shawn Lane from Memphis (recently deceased) could blow your damn mind....specialy on "powers of ten"...
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 03:10 PM
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49. He's a really great guy too and was never formally trained
so he's never transcibed his own stuff..hard to believe given all the musical genres he's crossed. In fact..hard to believe it's only ONE guitar playing.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:37 PM
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36. Bucket head
'nuff said.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:39 PM
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37. THANKS for all the names
That was the reason for the poll in the first place. I'm off work for the day in a few minutes and since I only access the internet at work, I won't be seeing this list for a few days. Hopefully there will be more guitarists for me to check out when I get back.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:39 PM
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38. I'll add Neil Young
The loudest guitarist I have ever seen, and the best master of feedback since Hendrix. His tone can be spotted a million miles away, and always gives me chills during his darkest moments, like "Tonight's The Night".

I love Sumlin of course, and Buddy Guy.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:41 PM
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39. Of Young's stuff "Like a Hurricane" is the only one that does that
for me.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:43 PM
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40. that's my favorite by him
Should have mentioned it. Seeing it live brought tears to my eyes.

I don't consider him the "scariest" guitarist, but everyone else stole my answers so I wanted to add a new name, lol.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 08:39 PM
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59. Cortez the Killer!
Another scary axe-piece.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:50 PM
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42. Frederich Thordendahl --
Lead Guitarist for Meshuggah, classically trained, but known most famously for he and the bands polyrhythmic insanity, and his very avant-guarde soloing, including a couple solos that are 12-tone rows (I love those.)

He's quite amazing to see live.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:51 PM
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43. Robin Guthrie of the Cocteau Twins, king of reverb and effects
No synthesizers were used for almost everything they ever did; it was all treated guitar effects.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:52 PM
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44. Seconded. n/t
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:54 PM
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45. Phil Keaggy -- rumor has it
that he cut off his middle finger, right hand, because it got in the way when he flat-picked.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 03:01 PM
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47. also Blixa Bargeld and Mick Harvey and Rowland Howard (during.....
their Birthday Party days)
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 03:08 PM
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48. Robert Johnson, hubert Sumlin, Mike bloomfield
Mike Bloomfield is utterly wicked on the axe. His vibrato really is scary.

Hubert Sumlin (guitarist for howlin' Wolf) attacks the blues like a serial killer on a cheap hooker.

Robert Johnson is just downright eerie

But Peter Green has the spookiest, most haunting, most 'supernatural' sound of any guitarist I have ever listened to.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 03:12 PM
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50. How could I forget Stanley Jordan! The guy puts you in a trans!
with everything he plays
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 06:57 PM
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51. Other: Tom Morello
best current day guitarist, weather hes doin metal, or softer rock...

cobain is ok, wasnt an amazing guitarist, but an amazing songwriter...

-LK
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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 08:22 PM
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54. Second that
Honorable mention to Adam Jones, guitarist for Tool. Most underrated guitarist out there, imo.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 07:06 PM
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52. Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman smoke all these guys.
They are THE monsters of guitar.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 07:49 PM
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53. Nathan Larson/Craig Wedron
By the third listen, Shudder to Think's Pony Express Record made my ovaries ache.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 08:28 PM
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55. Eddie Van Halen

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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 08:37 PM
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57. Jimmy Page
Back in the day. he was said to have worshipped satan for his skills.
He was one scary motherf***er!

Robert Johnson was another. He sold his soul to the devil to be the best guitar man in the world.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 08:38 PM
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58. Kazumi Watanabe
This is a men who can make his guitar talk... Words
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