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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:05 PM
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Have you ever killed your food?
Growing up we usually had chickens, rabbits, turkeys, and ducks that my siblings and I had to help slaughter.

My great uncle had one of the largest farms in Ohio. When I stayed there during summers I had to help kill and butcher geese, sheep, beef cattle, oxen, and pigs.

If you didn't help you didn't eat.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:08 PM
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1. Yes.
Chickens, Rabbits, and Fish. My dad took care of the Cows, Pigs and Goats.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:09 PM
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2. Yes, but not on a farm.
I grew up poor in rural West Virginia. Deer hunting was something we all learned to do the minute we were old enough to handle the recoil from a gun.

Deer meat is damned good, too. A lot of it can be tough and stringy, but it grinds into burger and sausage nicely, and the tenderloin is to die for when it's sliced, coated in flour, salt, and pepper, then fried.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:11 PM
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6. Oh--and fish of course.
Lots of good fish in the rivers around here. Channel cats are probably my favorite for eating, but the trout in the streams and creeks are worth the work of getting too.

/Brandy, who is not the least bit afraid to put her own worm (or grasshopper) on the hook, and knows that slices of hot dogs are excellent catfish bait.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:09 PM
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3. yeah, it was a neighborhood thing in my part of New Bedford
a couple of families would go in on a pig, then when it was ready, usually a year later, they'd slaughter it and everyone on the street would get together and butch it then spend the afternoon making Linguica and Chourice sausage links.

More personally though, I've had a saltwater fishing pole since I was 4 and every season there is always something to catch for dinner. Not to mention summers quoahogging and clamming, or spending the afternoon loberstering with my friend and his grandfather.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:44 PM
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30. Oh man. Homemade Portuguese sausages?
I've never had them homemade but I love both kinds. My New Bedfid friend/family connections were all from the wrong side of the ethnic tracks.

I thought that I'd have to give them up when I moved to CA but it turns out this area had a big Portuguese immigrant community so I can still get decent sausage.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:02 PM
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43. Please, I must have the recipes
for Linguica and Chourice.

I'll trade you a recipe for Mexican Chorizo.

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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:09 PM
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4. Sure, if you include fish n/t
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:11 PM
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5. Yes.
chickens, rabbits, squirrels, raccoons. Have helped skin and ... gut ... deer before taking to the butcher. (My sister was a weenie and refused to help her husband when he bagged some deer. I helped him with the gross stuff.) Helped raise numerous feeder calves for butchering but we took them to the slaughterhouse for the killing and such.
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:11 PM
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7. Yup
Fish. I wanted to make sure that I wasn't one of those people who couldn't face the consequences of my actions, so I cooked and ate a fish I caught myself.

Then I spent several hours vomiting. I don't know whether the problem was my ethics or my food prep.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:15 PM
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8. Nope.
I have to confess that I would be a vegetarian if I had to kill my own food. I just couldn't do it.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:16 PM
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9. You bet. Carrots, potatoes, sugar cane... with my bare hands sometimes.
And yes, I've killed animals to eat them, as a kid. Mostly fish. My father did the slaughtering of the chickens and other various red-blooded animals he and my brothers caught hunting. I never actually shot anything big enough to eat. But I watched them cleaned, sometimes, and even ate a rooster I had named.

Now I'm vegetarian. Not really connected to that, it was long afterwards. I think, and I hate to agree with Ted Nugent here, that there is something more spiritual about being involved in where your food comes from, rather than buying it already dead. By killing the animal, you at least have to feel the emotions involved in the kill. It makes you more connected to the world, to your food chain, to the cost of your meal.

Maybe that is part of why I'm vegetarian after all--I realized the cost, and didn't want to pay it anymore.
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:19 PM
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10. "Carrots, potatoes, sugar cane... with my bare hands sometimes."
Murderer!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:26 PM
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11. dupe
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 01:26 PM by jobycom
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:26 PM
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12. They didn't feel a thing.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:02 PM
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44. veggies are not veggies
because they love animals.They are veggies cause they hate vegetables. :hide:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:46 PM
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31. Think of the baby soy beans!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:12 AM
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49. As long as they can't think of me, I'm fine with it.
Edited on Fri Nov-17-06 11:12 AM by jobycom
:)
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:30 PM
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13. Just fish
when I've gone fishing.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:32 PM
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14. If you consider running over it on the highway, then yes!
:puke:



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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:32 PM
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15. No
And I never will.
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:34 PM
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17. No pudding for you.
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:37 PM
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19. Awwww
I like puddin' :9
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:39 PM
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21. If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. Thems the rules.
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:42 PM
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22. All in all
I really am just another brick in the wall anyway. :shrug:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:34 PM
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16. Yeah, I kill my own food pretty regularly over the summer.
I eat lots of fish, clams, crabs that I caught. Sometimes my stepdad comes back from scuba diving with lobsters.

The New England coast is awesome. I'd never live inland.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:35 PM
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18. Yup. I hunt and fish. n/t
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:38 PM
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20. It's called lobster and its damned good!!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:16 PM
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23. I've killed bugs that were in my food
and I've eated live grubs and chocolate covered insects. Hasn't everyone?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:17 PM
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24. I usually eat first
before I "kill it"

:evilgrin:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:55 PM
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39. And now let's talk about The Most Disgusting Food Ever
This makes balut look tame.

In Korea you can go to a restaurant and order "octopus" and they'll bring you a live fucking octopus. It's kinda like those restaurants in Texas where the night's entertainment consists of watching someone trying to eat six pounds of meat in one hour. They bring you a huge tray that has some kimchi, rice, a combat bottle of soju, a bowl of sauce, chopsticks, a knife (this is the only dish in a Korean restaurant that needs one), and this pissed-off live octopus. What you're SUPPOSED to do--no, I never did this--is to slice off a piece of tentacle, dip it in sauce, throw it in your mouth and wash it down with a sip of soju. The highlight was feeling the suction cups grab the back of your throat as it went down. After you've tortured the poor thing enough, they take it back into the kitchen, put it out of its misery, cook it and bring it back out to you.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:18 PM
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25. Well
I've been fishing and oystering, also clamming.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:23 PM
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26. yes
chickens, hogs, deer, fish, oysters, crabs, lobsters etc....

we sent the steers out for slaughter and fabrication
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:42 PM
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27. I caught fish...but didn't have to gut 'em and cut their heads off....
....remember this freaky video on MTV back in the day?! :D



Fish Heads
**********

Fish heads, Fish heads
Rolly polly Fish heads
Fish heads, Fish heads
Eat them up, Yummm

Fish heads, Fish heads
Rolly polly Fish heads
Fish heads, Fish heads
Eat them up, Yummm

In the morning
Laughing, happy
Fish Heads
In the evening
Floating in the soup

Fish heads, Fish heads
Rolly polly Fish heads
Fish heads, Fish heads
Eat them up, Yummm

Ask a Fish head
Anything you want to
They won't answer
They can't talk

Fish heads, Fish heads
Rolly polly Fish heads
Fish heads, Fish heads
Eat them up, Yummm

I took a Fish head
Out to see a movie
Didn't have to pay
To get it in

Fish heads, Fish heads
Rolly polly Fish heads
Fish heads, Fish heads
Eat them up, Yummm
They can't play baseball
They don't wear sweaters
They're not good dancers
They don't play drums

Fish heads, Fish heads
Rolly polly Fish heads
Fish heads, Fish heads
Eat them up, Yummm

Rolly polly Fish heads
Are never seen drinking
Cappacino in Italian restaurants
With Oriental women...Yeah

Fish heads, Fish heads
Rolly polly Fish heads
Fish heads, Fish heads
Eat them up, Yummm

Fish heads, Fish heads
Rolly polly Fish heads
Fish heads, Fish heads
Eat them up, Yummm...
(Yummm)

Fish heads, Fish heads
Rolly polly Fish heads
Fish heads, Fish heads
Eat them up, Yummm

Fish heads, Fish heads
Rolly polly Fish heads
Fish heads, Fish heads
Eat them up, Yummm
YEAH!!!!!!!!!

by Barnes and Barnes
From the album:

Voohbaha!


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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:42 PM
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28. My daughter (8) wants to kill our turkey this year.
We've ordered it from a local farm. They'll do the killing, plucking, and cleaning for us if we want, but my youngest wants us to do it (I may even let her handle the ax). So...this year we'll kill our own bird. My wife is very disturbed by the thought.

To your original question: Oh yes. Fishing, diving for lobsters, crabs, clams, deer hunting, rabbit trapping, hunting.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:44 PM
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29. Very much so. In Alaska I lived mostly off the land.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:50 PM
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32. Yes. And I think everyone who eats meat should do so at least once.
I think the meat eaters really do need to see and experience what it's like to take the life of animal, skin it, and carve it up, in all the noises, blood, and stink.

I think it's the only way to honor the animals we eat, by actually knowing - from a personal, experiential way - what we are doing to them, so that we can give the PROPER thankgsgiving for having them served on our table.

Grocery stores are too goddamn "clean" - buying your meat already cut up and served nicely on a styrofoam tray.

(and yes, I am a meat eater who has killed and done this)
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:04 PM
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33. An excellent post.
:thumbsup:
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:08 PM
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34. That I agree with.
Meat eaters should catch and kill their own meals every once in a while. It doesn't make you numb to the animals, if anything it makes you appreciate them and their environment more.

Some folks think that when that deer senses you and gets away or that fish manages to work loose, it's disappointing. To me, I smile..they won the contest for the day.

Supermarkets and restaurants detach us from our world.

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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:17 PM
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35. Oysters, clams and mussels - they're alive when you cook or eat them.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:18 PM
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36. Does fishing count?
I caught, killed, gutted and then ate a rainbow trout.

It was good but too much work for such little meat.
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:12 PM
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48. It counts
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:19 PM
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37. Crabs, clams, mussels, lobsters, fish, yes. Mammals, no. nt
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:48 PM
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38. Yep.
All the same slaughter plus game.
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:57 PM
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40. No, the closest I ever came to doing that was going fishing.
I didn't catch anything.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:59 PM
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41. I've ripped carrots and potatoes from the earth with bare hands.
:evilgrin:
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:59 PM
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42. No. I couldn't do it.
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 04:59 PM by LaraMN
I can't even handle baiting a hook for fishing.
I don't eat a whole lot of meat, and when I do, I can't stand to think about where it came from. I can't stomach anything on a bone. Same with eggs. Not a judgment call- just my own issues.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:06 PM
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45. Since I was 8 years old
My dad used to come home from the drilling rigs with a baby goat in the back of the truck.

I had the job of taking the goat and a bucket to our neighbor who would butcher it, and keep the pelt as payment. I'd come home with the goat in the bucket.

Learned a lot of anatomy that way.

Since then, I've been a more active participant in the process, and the animals have gotten bigger too.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:07 PM
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46. well yeah
anyone who pulls up an entire onion or garlic plant or a carrot has killed to eat, be that as it may, i can't offhand recall personally killing anything higher up the evolutionary scale than a fish or a soft-shelled crab but as soon as i log off, i'll probably think of something
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:11 PM
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47. A frog
The first time I had frog legs. I caught and kill the frog, along with a few other kids at the same camp.



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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:26 AM
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50. I've been known to murder burritos
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:36 AM
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51. If am an avid fisherman and I deer hunt
But this year I can't. The season opens up in the morning here in Wisconsin, but I have to work.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:49 AM
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52. no
unless cooking lobster counts. It still kind of creeps me out. I used to apologize to them when I was a young kid and I actually still do....
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