Does anyone believe McCartney was that evil with Heather?

[babylonsister]

I'm having a hard time believing it, so say it ain't so, or not! And I can't fathom why I care, but he's a Beatle, for cryin' out loud!
I think his current ex-wife is being witchy.

[Nicole]

1. I don't believe it

I might change my mind later but I doubt it.

[Robeson]

2. I have no idea of what you are talking about. Has she made accusations?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

4. Yeah, they're pretty incredible.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/19/news/BC_EU_GEN_Britain_McCartney_Divorce.php

[Robeson]

9. After reading that, I have no idea. I don't live in their bedroom, so....

...anything is possible. As for the drug use, I could care less. He's always been known for his drug use, and has been busted multiple times. That shouldn't have been a shock to her that he did drugs. As for the physical abuse part, who knows?...:shrug: I certainly hope it's not true.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

3. I don't.

I mean, he was with Linda McCartney a long time and they seemed to have an awesome marriage. I just can't picture him being that *evil* in his next marriage.

[idgiehkt]

5. anything is possible.

And saying this is going to make me oh-so-fucking-popular in the lounge, but mood and mind altering chemicals are just that, mood and mind altering, and if he's abusing them to the point of loss of control over that then he's not in control of his actions and all this she's accused him of is just such fucking boring addict behavior. I've always respected Mills and to see her savaged by people just because she's a big-busted blonde who married a rich man is disappointing to me.

[Maddy McCall]

8. Fuck popularity.

You're right.

Not saying that it's true about Paul being an abuser, but no one knows except for those in the marriage and those who observed the marriage.

[idgiehkt]

10. thanks, miss Maddy McCall

will you help me fight off the lynch-mob when it comes?

[Maddy McCall]

11. Should I bring a shovel or a pick?

:D

[Nicole]

12. True, anything is possible

That's why I said I might change my mind later. The evidence might later prove Heather is right. I just don't believe it right now. I hope it's not true.

That said, I agree with you about the trashing of Heather. It is disappointing & premature, given that nothing has been proven yet. It's all allegations at this point.

[L A Woman]

43. Yup! I agree.

Alcohol can go an awfully long way in changing one's behavior - I speak from personal experience. And since no one here actually knows the man, it's all speculation.

[Broken_Hero]

6. not sure...

maybe, maybe not...my first gut feeling is no though...

[rubberducky]

7. He should have had a pre-nup!

I think it`s all about the money.

[Heidi]

14. Perhaps _she_ should have insisted on a pre-nup. (nt)

[Kutjara]

13. Is this where someone's supposed to say...

..."she hasn't got a leg to stand on"?

Thought not.

[babylonsister]

31. Or...

a pot to piss in? And you forced me into that!

:hide:

[Darth_Kitten]

15. Beatles weren't known for being very good husbands.........

So, he's to be believed because he's a musician?

Thing is it really doesn't matter what we believe, it's if it happened or not.
I cannot believe people are in shock over these allegations, just because people put on a good front for the public doesn't mean they can't be total ogres in private. :shrug:

[babylonsister]

32. No, not because he's a musician

but the fact the man was married for so many years to the same woman, raised a family, and we never heard a peep about abuse, raises my curiosity. All of a sudden he's a dick?
And of all the Beatles, this one was the least likely AFAIK to be accused of being a 'bad' husband.
I recall how happy he was with his wife.

[MissMillie]

16. I guess what surprises me about it

is that Linda was NOTHING like that (well, at least not the Linda we all saw).

[datasuspect]

17. he never gave her his money

he only gave her his wine glass shards

[Bunny]

18. I'm confused about the whole thing.

In my heart, I don't believe Paul did the stuff she's accused him of. Or at least, I'm willing to believe that she is taking specific instances and embellishing them. For example, I can see a man jokingly telling his wife that he wanted her boobs to himself, and therefore she shouldn't breast-feed. I mean, it's just not that much of a stretch for me to believe that a man could say this, but it would be an obvious joke. She may have chosen to turn this into some big sinister statement when it really wasn't. She wouldn't be the first person, male or female, to exaggerate things in an ugly divorce.

I think that if he were an abuser of women (I hate the term wife-beater), there would have been whispers about this long before now. I am, however, quite aware that what goes on behind closed doors is often quite shocking, so although I'm a little skeptical, I'll reserve judgement on her claims.

I have to wonder why Heather would be so invested in making up lies about Paul, though. If there had been a stringent pre-nup, I could see how she might try to invalidate it somehow by portraying Paul as some sort of monster.

But since there was no pre-nup, isn't she automatically entitled to a gigantic (as in possibly hundreds of millions of pounds) settlement? Why would she need to concoct a bunch of lies about Paul in order to get even more money? And their daughter is entitled to a giant monthly child support payment in her own right, so it's not like Heather is going to be a struggling single mom. She's obviously going to be set for life, why the need to lie to get even more?

[skygazer]

47. Well, as to her being automatically entitled to a huge settlement

That's not necessarily so. As I understand it, with a marriage of such a short duration, the British courts don't tend to award the large percentages of the assets that might be awarded if it was, say, a 20 or 30 year marriage. But that's only based on stuff I've read on this case so it may not be true.

As to why she'd lie, spite and venom make people do odd things so it's not impossible that would be a reason. As to whether she's lying, I don't know. It does seem odd that in a very public and long life, nothing of this has been said about Paul before - and it's not like the drugs and alcohol are new in the mix. He's been doing that all along so I don't see how he can suddenly be said to be acting under their influence.

[MamaBear]

54. I think this is about custody of the child.

They have a child together. I've read that Sir Paul has sued for custody. People do horrible things to each other sometimes in order to get primary custody of a child.

Personally, I choose not to believe it unless and until I must.

And his "mood altering drug abuse" mostly consists of pot smoking according to his biographers.

She could be right. But just sayin'

[philosophie_en_rose]

19. I don't believe or disbelieve it. I just don't know.

I think it's important to remember that both Heather and Paul are not publicly discussing it, so that we're all getting rumors from leakers. Not good.

I could have happened. Public image isn't everything. But I don't know that it did. Either way, it's good that they aren't together.

[johnnie]

20. Probably to an extent

One thing to keep in mind is that Sir James Paul has been told he is God for 40 plus years, everywhere he goes people bow before him and that would go to anybody's head.

I don't know to what extent her allegations are true, but I'm sure Paul is pretty much a dick. Here is a guy that will fire you from his tour if you even look at a McDonald's (well, not quite that bad, but close). I am a huge Beatles fan, but that doesn't excuse them from anything.

If you do enough reading about the Beatles and paul, it is easy to see what an ass he can be, and I'm sure he step over the line in some form or another in the four years he was married to heather. But then reading about heather, she is no prize either.

I have been in "break-ups" before so I know damn well how things can be twisted beyond recognition. Hell, I was called a stalker for calling a woman one time after we split up only because she said to me "You *better* call me...giggle giggle giggle". My bad..lol. And one time I got into a fight with one ex's new boyfriend at a bar that I wasn't even at in front of a bunch of people who I knew. They saw nothing. That was weird. :crazy:


Anyway, yeah... I think some of this shit is true, but something like the stabbing could have been Paul throwing a glass into the sink because Heather pissed him off by bitching at him for misplacing her leg. Who knows?

[noonwitch]

21. It's possible, but I don't believe it.

No other women have ever made that accusation against him. She's just looking to cash in as best she can.

[peekaloo]

22. Reefer Madness.

It's true I tells ya. The demon weed wrecks lives!

:sarcasm:

[electron_blue]

23. I believe it. Not based on anything other than my reaction after reading

her filing and complaints.

[IdaBriggs]

24. There isn't anything Heather could say that would be of interest to me.

She married an incredibly rich man without a prenuptial agreement. If she loved him, she would have insisted on one to PROTECT HIM and his assets. He should have also insisted on one. Instead, he was a very vulnerable widower, and she's now set for life. Do I need to know anything more? Frankly, no. She's greedy, and he was stupid. I find both of their behavior completely understandable based on normal human behavior (grieving and greed), and find no interest in anything either of them have to say about the matter. It was just stupid (as his friends told him at the time).

[babylonsister]

25. That's the truth. I still can't

fathom his supposed behavior according to her, but he was dumb. And imo she's greedy. But to foul the name of her child's father? That's beyond belief.

[Benfea]

26. It most certainly is possible.

Lots of people have radically different public and private lives.

[Avalux]

27. It's certainly possible. We have no idea what he's like in private.

Have you ever thought you knew someone - or was acquainted with someone who seemed like a great person, only to find out it wasn't true at all? We know Paul McCartney as an entertainer and see his public face; but he could be exactly what Heather says he is and it's not fair to take his side just because he was a Beatle.

[lukasahero]

42. "Have you ever thought you knew someone" - See your nightly news

Every single time someone goes batshit crazy the neighbors and friends all talk about what a great guy/gal he/she was and how they just couldn't imagine this person doing something like that.

[raccoon]

45. Absolutely. And remember how we all believed that Charles and

Diana were madly in love with each other before they married. And how JFK seemed like such a nice family man.

We just don't know what goes on behind closed doors, not with our neighbors, much less with celebrities we don't even know.

[electron_blue]

56. Yes, that's what is affecting my view. I escaped a violent relationshp,

was with him for almost 20 years. To this day, only one person besides me believes he was that way. Most assume my ex was a patient saint, and the few who have heard some of my complaints about him, they instantly dismiss what they've heard about him from me. He was, and continues to be, a completely different person in public.

[Divameow77]

28. I heard this morning

that the court document claiming all this abuse was possibly a fake, so her making the accusations may not even be true.

[Irreverend IX]

29. Who gives a rat's ass?

There are more important events going on right now than this celebrity circus crap.

[Left Is Write]

55. Yes, there are. However, this is the DU Lounge...

where occasionally "less important" events get discussed.

Clearly, this subject is a hot button for many DUers. If they want to talk, let them talk. If it bothers you, hide the thread. That's what I do with threads I don't want to see.

[6000eliot]

30. I think she's trying to get more money out of him.

[El Fuego]

33. It was probably MUTUAL.

[Vidar]

34. No,

[cwydro]

35. Hmmm

rumor has it she took away his weed....so....:shrug:

[babylonsister]

36. Well THAT explains it!

:D

[cwydro]

38. well sure,

lack thereof can make anyone crabby (not that I would know or anything:P )

[BarenakedLady]

37. Not sure

I usually hold off on assumptions until I have all the facts. Though I guess we will never really know. :shrug:

I would hope that it isn't true.

[rhiannon55]

39. I have always been a McCartney fan, BUT

I also know that in private, people can be very different from their public persona. I was once in an abusive relationship with someone that no one would ever suspect could be abusive. This person was friendly and charismatic in public, but hateful and mean in private.

And, I don't know why Heather Mills would make this stuff up. She has a child with him, so it's not as if she isn't going to be getting a huge amount of money from him anyway.

I tend to believe her...

[idgiehkt]

44. I think

even though I hate to see her disparaged so badly because she doesn't deserve it, that this is tied into the custody thing somehow.

[InvisibleTouch]

40. I don't.

He seems like a gentle person. Then again, I've never been accused of being a brilliant judge of character. What does seem apparent is that Heather is, if I've followed the story correctly, already getting a sizeable divorce settlement, and now is digging for more. When you have enough to live on comfortably for the rest of your life, why the insatiable greed for more? When is enough enough?

[bumblebee1]

41. Except for the money part, it sounds like what happened with my father.

I can appreciate Paul McCartney was lonely. After all, he was married to Linda for a long time and raised a family with her. Then Linda died from a painful illness. My mother and father were married for 15 yrs before my mother died of lung cancer. About a year after her death, my father remarried. My stepmother was a 33 yr old woman who was taking care of her widowed father. She also had no experience dealing with children on a daily basis. It must have been a shock to her, but that doesn't excuse her abusive behavior to my two sisters and me. My stepmother's own father knew she was a nutjob. Divorce was out of the question for my father. He was old school Catholic. You just didn't divorce your spouse. No one would blamed him if he did.

Except for the daughter Sir Paul had with Heather, all of his children are grown. When my mother died, my older sister was 12, I was 3 and my younger sister was almost 2.

[jriles]

46. trust issues

of all the beatles i trusted him least. why does that make sense?

[KitchenWitch]

48. I think it is a publicity stunt on her part.

And I think it's a really cheap shot.

[Maddy McCall]

49. Ummm....

Where the hell have you been???

:hug:

Good to see you, kitchy!

[KitchenWitch]

51. Really long story

I have been mostly rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic! :silly:

[zanne]

50. Why not?

Being a celebrity certainly doesn't make a man a better husband, or a woman a better wife.

[Generator]

52. Old men get cranky

on the other hand, blame the chick, it's the thing to do.

She must have been withholding the nuky nuky (yes I do believe they call it that in England) to get him so testy.

[idgiehkt]

53. lol

indeed.