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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:10 PM
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TOP CHEF: you are on notice (hostess insults "junk food" staples)
The hostess on Top Chef just referred to nachos and corn dogs as part of "the lowest level of the food chain." As a native Texan, I am deeply offended. Nachos are actually a Mexican invention, I know, but corn dogs were invented in Dallas. You do not insult Fletcher's corn dogs, especially the ones served hot and fresh at the State Fair of Texas. Not on my watch, hoss...
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:14 PM
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1. Some people think that nachos only involve 'cheese' spelled with
a 'z' and corn dogs only come out of a freezer case. Those people are stupid and should be destroyed.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:17 PM
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2. Believe it or not..
...and PLEASE don't kill me for this...I find the way Applebee's does their nachos to be quite the art form, and would use it as a base to be even more creative if I had the gumption to get up off the couch and actually try.
Taught me to actually like jalapenos.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:20 PM
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3. I don't think I've ever tried Applebee's nachos
I'm willing to give it a go. We usually get our nachos either from some fast-food chain or from El Fenix, which is an authentic, family-owned Tex-Mex chain down here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. Ojeda's and El Chico are pretty darn good, too.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:26 PM
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5. Of course you're in the clear
The people I was criticizing are those who think nachos are only cheez whiz based. It's OK to like the ball-park style as long as you understand that there are other forms as well.

(Anyway, even if you were wrong about nachos, you'd get bonus points for using the word "gumption.")
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:00 PM
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12. Lol!!!
Thanks....I'm feeling particularly sleepy today, hence the couch thing.
I really can't take much of the cheese whiz stuff unless it's 2-in-the-morning-drunk-off-my-ass food.
Cheers!
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 07:55 PM
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14. O.M.G. After apple picking we ate at Chilis and the guy at the next table
kept saying nachos as "natch-os." They were the dumbest fucking people ever. We were laughing uncontrollably at them. Their stupidity began with Natchos and soon proved to be endless.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:21 PM
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4. Fuck that, nachos are the greatest snack food ever.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:37 PM
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6. I'm pretty sure nachos WERE invented in Texas
I've read this in several different places.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:42 PM
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8. Actually, they were invented just across the Rio Grande in Mexico
This comes from Anthony Bourdain. It was the owner of a run-down hole-in-the-wall restaurant in a Mexican border town, and someone came in late at night during the 1950s desperate for anything to eat. All the chef had on hand was some semi-stale tortilla chips and some cheese, so he melted the cheese over the tortilla chips and served it up to a grateful customer. And thus, nachos were born.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 01:05 PM
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11. mmmmm , nachos
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:41 PM
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7. I've never had a corn dog.
:hide:

I do like nachos, though. I don't get to eat them very often because of my diet.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:52 PM
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9. Nachos were invented in San Antonio and made public in Los Angeles
California at El Cholo's on Western Avenue.

http://www.elcholo.com/elcholo/history.html

And the fast food nachos sold with fake cheese and plastic tomatoes ARE junk food, as are corn dogs.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 01:04 PM
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10. No offense to Carmen Rocho...
...but she might have learned about nachos in San Antonio instead of inventing them herself. The timeline sounds about right, if what I've heard is true. I'm still hearing nachos, Mexican border town, mid- to late-1950s.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 10:48 PM
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15. According to several sources
Nachos were invented in Piedras Negras in 1943 by a man named Ignacio Anaya (nicknamed "Nacho"). Here's an article to read: http://sabatos.net/nachos.php
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:04 PM
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16. 1943? Wow...
Looks like I had the right neighborhood, but the wrong timeline. Thanks.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:38 PM
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13. do not.insult.the corndog.
just.don't.
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