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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:31 PM
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All my life I have been fascinated by men.........
I just felt like baring my soul tonight.......

I like tall, well-built men.......

Sturdy masculine bones.........strength and gentleness too.......

But more than the physical is the mental/emotional/intellectual.....

A man who knows who he is and likes himself.......

Who has an incredible sense of humor........who knows how to laugh at himself.......

Who is intelligent and educated.........

Who isn't afraid to say I love you......

And who isn't afraid of his own emotions, or showing them.....

A man with a look of confidence in his eyes....and a way of carrying himself that speaks to that........

Who can gaze out at the world boldly and know that he can make his way in it......

These are all so very attractive to me........


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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:34 PM
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1. Oh god Peggy...
I just had to watch THAT exact man walk out of my life tonight. He's moving to Florida is 2 days. :cry:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:36 PM
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2. My dear VelmaD........
This is too much, sweetie.....

I just posted in your thread......

I hope you can work something out.........:pals:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:59 PM
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3. Peggy - precisely what I crave.
Although Mr. Writer is close enough for me. :)

But I do have eyes still, and blood running through my veins. :hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:02 AM
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5. My dear Writer........
I feel the same way you do......

I have my beloved husband as well........

But I do love to look.........

I'm not dead yet!

:hug:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:01 AM
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4. Wow, that sounds like somebody I know.
Men like that are worth thier weight in gold, and then some. :loveya:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:04 AM
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7. My dear LeftyMom.........
It sure does sound like someone you know!

And yes......they are worth their weight in gold and then some......

For their presence in our lives........

That masculine presence.........amazing!

:hug: :loveya:
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hickman Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:02 AM
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6. I've always liked men who knew who they were and what they
wanted. They were the ones that could get past lust, and get to know and like me. Not who they wanted me to be. Although lust is nice.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:06 AM
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9. My dear hickman........
Lust certainly has its place!

But I agree ........But they certainly need to want you as you are.......

And not try to remake you in some other image.........

That implies a huge lack of respect, IMHO......

And without respect, there cannot be love......:hug:
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hickman Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:19 AM
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15. Peg, I hugely disagree.
A lot of people seem to live in disrespectful relationships and call it love. I think it's out of control need, but who am I to judge? I haven't been married for years, thank God.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:26 AM
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16. Just because some people call it love.........
Doesn't mean that it is......

But I hear ya!

There are all sorts of unhealthy relationships out there........

And I wish them all lots of luck!

:hi:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:03 AM
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32. for years. Do you mean you have been divorced/separated for years
which would mean that you have been not married for years,
or that you have not, been married for years?
Didn't you used to be older, like born in 1937?
Because I thought I had had some good times with her
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=4436018#4436037
:hide:
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hickman Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:29 AM
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34. Thank you! Yes that was me.
I crashed my computer and had to have it wiped, so I lost my DU password. Hickman1973 was in honor of my grandfather that I never knew. His last name wasn't Hickman but that was, for some reason, the name he was buried under. It took his family years to find him. He died in 1937 when my mother was 12. My original user name was in his honor. Still is.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:06 AM
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8. Wow! I've never met a man like that! I will say, our 'boys' can
grow into their bones and get better and better. :D
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:08 AM
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11. My dear babylonsister!
I have been fortunate to know a couple of men like this......

And I married one of them!

And yes, boys can grow into this.......

For all our sakes, I hope that many of them will.......:hug:
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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:07 AM
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10. My dear CaliforniaPeggy...
...who knew? We both want the same man...

:rofl:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:10 AM
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13. My dear TOhioLiberal!
Ah, sweetie!

I'm sure Keith is already taken.........as am I!

And I hope you are too.......by someone as good as the type I described!

:hug:
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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:31 AM
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17. He's not taken...
...as far as I know. I'd like to take him...:blush: ;)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:36 AM
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19. Well, he sure meets all MY criteria!
Go for it!

You don't want to look back on your life with any regrets!

But that sure is easier said than done, isn't it? :hug:
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:37 AM
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20. Take him where?
You might wanna watch public places, though...could be a mob scene.

O8)
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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:16 AM
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45. I wanna take him...
...to dinner. Where else I take him is another story altogether. :evilgrin:
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:04 AM
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69. Him------
Keith seriously needs to be cloned --- --- -- ---:loveya:
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SoyCat Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:10 AM
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12. Well, he's only tall if you consider 5'10" tall, but you still can't have
him! I do believe my husband is quite close to your ideal. I feel very lucky. (15 yrs. and counting...)

BTW: I think he'd probably adore you too!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:12 AM
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14. My dear SoyCat!
5'10" is tall enough!

But I have a husband already, and so you have nothing to worry about!

Thanks for the compliment........:hug:
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SoyCat Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:41 AM
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23. I was just kidding...but I think you'd adore him anyway!
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:36 AM
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18. I'm only 5'3", so they all look tall to me!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:39 AM
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22. My dear mykpart!
From your vantage point, they sure would all look tall......

It was a lot more difficult for me, being 5'7"....

My husband was actually the first man I dated that was taller .........

I love being able to look up to, and to lean on him.........:hug:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:38 AM
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21. Well, the same goes for me on your list with females except


I do like well built woman, from a male perspective, I don't mean the same(built) thing on that you do.
not taller than me..but that is not something that will hold me back.




:rofl:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:44 AM
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25. My dear IChing!
I am so happy to have you participate in my thread!

You are the first man to do so, too.......

So taller women don't hold you back.......that's not a deal-breaker for you?

What's inside is way more important than what's visible outside.........

But it all matters......:hug:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:52 AM
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30. My X wife was taller than me
by about a half an inch, But in Heels, look out!!! ............or up
damn tall Danes.


Not my heels, if you are thinking that............LOL
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:42 AM
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24. And with all that you also get burping, farting and snoring!
Dirty show tracks, fingerprints and home repair projects that last forever. It's a bargain, I tell ya!

:hi:

Ms. peggy, are ya still thinking about applying for that thing we PMed about?
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:47 AM
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27. My dear Opposite Reaction!
Well, yes, you do get all those other things!

And we women bring our own *um* issues to the marriage/relationship too!

But those are nits, IMHO.......

Men are certainly worth all the less desirable things that come with them........

And absolutely, yes, I am going to go for it.......wish me luck!

:hug:
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:58 AM
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58. Whishing luck as I type!
You should have no problem. It will be fun!

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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:47 AM
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28. Heeee
all the things that you just described, you can get from a dog, too.

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:54 AM
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31. My dear reyd reid reed.........
I see you in my thread, sweetie...........

Are you going to sneak around and slyly insert comments here and there?

Or are you going to come out and speak your mind to me?

J/K.......you know I love you! :loveya: :hug:
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:58 AM
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57. Whoa, don't I know it! And it gets worse with size.
Or GSD is a 100 lb. female, but when it comes to noxious emissions she is no lady!

Purty, though.

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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:47 AM
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26. Well, two outta three ain't bad.
Hi, Peggy!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:50 AM
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29. My dear evlbstrd!
Wow.......How about this?

First the ladies chimed in.......and now it's the guys........:woohoo:

I'm so pleased to see you tonight!

Two out of three? Which two do you possess? Hmmm?

I dare ya........... :hide:

No, really........I'm very happy to be talking to you...... :hug:
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:15 AM
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73. I'm tall.
And I laugh at myself. That's all I can objectively address.
You didn't think you could put this out there without some input from the male contingent, did you?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:22 AM
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33. My dear CaliforniaPeggy
8 out of 9 isn't bad, is it, depending of course on your definition of "tall" . . .
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:34 AM
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35. My dear leftofthedial...........
Well.......I'm 5'7".........so anything taller than that.........or equal to......

And of course, this is not an absolute requirement........

I prefer men taller than myself......if I were in the market......:hug:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:39 AM
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36. Peggy, you are a total sweetheart.
Your husband is a lucky man!

Buenos noches!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:40 AM
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37. Buenos noches a tu, tambien!
He says he is.........

Muchas gracias.........:hug:
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:42 AM
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38. I agree, Peggy.
I am also fascinated by men. I like it when they have hairy forearms. :hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:46 AM
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39. My dear 6000eliot!
Isn't it funny? Gay men and I compete for the same men!

Well, that's not exactly true.....I am married after all.........

And you're far away........:hug:

Hairy forearms? NO competition from me, sweetie!

I like men who aren't that hairy!

:loveya:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:09 AM
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40. :: Looks around ::
Very few people in this dorm that would fit your description and 2 of the 3 are already taken.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:15 AM
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41. My dear sakabatou.........
I'm not surprised at that.......

Guys in a college dorm, while undoubtedly hot, are waaaaay too young for me!

But I appreciate your input nonetheless......:hi:
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:16 AM
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42. Hi Peggy
I haven't chatted with you before but I thought I would respond to your nice post.

I am tall, 6'4". It is a gruesome story how I came to be tall; I was once a little boy, and then I grew some. (Yes, I have a sense of humor. I particularly like puns; I had a grandfather who told a lot of very bad puns, and I inherited that from him.)

I do a lot of jogging and hiking (often with the Sierra Club) so I am in good physical shape, though somewhat weak as far as upper body strength is concerned.

I am happy with my intelligence and education. I have always liked and been good with numbers and mathematics since I was a kid, and I have my Bachelor's and Master's degrees in Mathematics and Computer Science respectively.

I am 55 years old, and had a lot of problems when I was young, most of which I have worked through, so I have come to a place where I have been able to know, like, and accept myself.

One unfortunate result of my having had the problems I had when I was young was that I missed the boat as far as any serious relationship with any woman was concerned when I was young. Also there were things I had wanted to do for myself for a long time; in particular I had long wanted to take a trip to Europe, which I finally did in 1997, at the age of 46. I had in particular wanted to visit Germany, and my trip included Germany and Austria.

Right now I have some anxiety about whether I am ever going to be in a relationship with a woman. Again, I feel I missed the boat when I was young, and I am now in my life where I would have very much wanted to be in my 30's or 40's. And I have some anxiety because of my current job and money situation. I had a very good job in the 1990's, but have been working on a consulting basis since.

Though I have to admit I like some of the advantages of being single, and would not want to give up the advantages except for someone who is really right for me.

You can see a lot that I have shared about myself in my journal. In particular I have shared about my religious issues. And I have shared some rather personal things about myself.

It helps a lot being my age that I am able to accept myself as I am.

I live in San Diego. Perhaps we might meet some time at a gathering for Southern California DUer's. I have been to a few such gatherings; however I think the last such gathering for me was in June 2004.

I would appreciate any encouragement or kind words as far as women are concerned.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:27 AM
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43. My dear MikeH..........
I am honored that you chose to open up to me, here in my thread tonight...

I am always amazed at the sort of responses I get to these more serious threads....

Encouragement? Sounds to me as though you would make some very lucky woman a lovely husband....

Tall, strong, smart, educated.........

Are there any nice single women in your branch of the Sierra Club?

Or any group that you're part of?

You're in the prime of your life...lots of years left!

I would suggest that you not worry about being in a relationship.......Just keep your eyes open, and have some fun while you're at it!

:hi:
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:12 PM
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97. Thanks very much for your nice response, Peggy
I would suggest that you not worry about being in a relationship.......Just keep your eyes open, and have some fun while you're at it!

I agree that I think that is the best advice.

I want to have fun, and let whatever happens happen. I realize the worst thing is to try to force something to happen, or to be desperate.

Yes, there are some nice women in the Sierra Club, the San Diego Tall Club, and in my local chapter of the Democratic club.

Thanks very much, Peggy.:-)
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:33 AM
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44. 55? You're just gettin' ripe!
I'm surprised no European woman snapped you up when you were here. You sound like good company. :hi:
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:40 PM
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103. Thanks very much, Heidi
:-) :hi:

Actually I was part of a tour group on a bus, and we had very little free time. Sometimes the free time was just enough to take care of necessary personal business. And I didn't want to miss out on any of the tours.
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:22 AM
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60. Mike, you're far away but you should read post #56. : - )
Not trying to start anything here necessarily, but I just wanted to tell you that you should never give up hope that the right lady is out there for you.

My early natural preference for tall men (my daughter's dad is 6'6" and my last ex is 6'4-1/2") may have shifted to guys I can look in the eye, but few people ever fully get over the natural chemistry with the types they are most drawn to, IMO.

And the best types of people in my experience do not really judge any prospective partner on the physical issues alone -- or even predominantly. I used to say when I first started meeting people on the internets that I would probably be fine with loving a guy who was two feet tall and with his ears where his eyes should be IF I really loved who he was inside! :rofl:

Like many other women, and in spite of the pressure in our society to demand that men be wealthy or powerful (or both) or at least have a great job and late-model car, I have never cared about a man's finances nearly as much as I care about his innermost nature. Even though I was "quite the fox" in my younger years and it seemed I could attract almost any man's interest if I wanted to, I dated only a scant few men who were rolling in money or owned expensive homes or cars.

All I'm really saying is, a lot of women value substance over appearance and inner value over "net worth" -- and the older people get, the more this is likely to be true, I believe.

As someone else here said, you really are "just getting ripe" and you sound like a great plum for some lucky lady to me. ;) Don't be surprised if someone with all the qualities YOU like in women happens by your way and recognizes a good thing when she sees it ... any time now. :hi:

(I love San Diego. Had relatives in Escondido for many years, spent the summer of my 15th year with them and visited SD several times. When I was 24 (in 1974), I hitchhiked to southern CA and then bought a touring bicycle and rode solo up the coast from San Juan Capistrano to somewhere in the middle of nowhere, about midstate I think. Never have forgotten what a great scenic ride that was and how much there was to enjoy in CA's natural beauty and climate, and a lot of its people.)

I would simply suggest that you enjoy life and be open to the possibilities, and you'll find what you want before too long. :loveya: :hi:


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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:00 PM
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104. Thanks very much for your kind words, Vicki
I do have to admit that my job and financial situation is a source of anxiety for me.

Some of the problems I had when I was young included problems at some of my early jobs, which at the time made it hard for me to develop self-confidence. I also had a very critical and judgmental father, who did many good things, but who was many times very poor at understanding a difficult situation from my point of view.

Also on another board at which I post, a personal interest board, I at one time indicated my discouragement about my prospects as far as women are concerned, and mentioned that at the time I was between jobs, and a not very nice woman poster on the board felt it was her business and duty to scold me and remind me that women are not going to be attracted to a man who does not have a job, and to judge me because of my circumstances (which she knew nothing about). However that particular woman had some very serious issues of her own; one of her posts was a real doosie.

I would simply suggest that you enjoy life and be open to the possibilities, and you'll find what you want before too long.

Yes, I think that is the best advice.

And even if I do not find someone who is right for me, there are worse things.

Thanks very much.:loveya:
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hotforteacher Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:22 AM
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46. Aww Peggy!
You just made me smile so broadly! I have to run to the Ivory Towers of Academia (well, just the hallowed halls of high school where I teach), but wanted to take a moment to say Thank You for the reminder.

Your grace is admired in these parts for very good reasons. I wish you a long life, full of friends and love. Mwah!

:loveya:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:58 AM
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63. My dear hotforteacher!
Wow, I thank you!

Your very kind words have started my day off with a smile on my face......

I am humbled by your praise..........:loveya: :hug:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:26 AM
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47. A man like that would be wonderful.
Unfortunately, now that I am older and do not qualify as "hot," I find that my requirements have necessarily diminished to only two: a pulse and no recent felony convictions. :shrug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:01 AM
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65. My dear ocelot...........
Don't sell yourself short!

A lot of hot comes from inside.......your attitudes and how you carry yourself.........

I am older too.......but some still see me as hot.........:hug:

Believe in yourself........
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:27 AM
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48. Wow...he probably doesn't exist, but that's a great ideal!
Just kidding...he's gotta be out there somewhere
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:03 AM
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67. My dear av8rdave..........
I know at least a couple of men who fit my ideal description........

I married one of them!

And I am quite sure that in this big old world of ours that there are others..........

:hug:
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:28 AM
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80. It sounds like you've made out well
That's a good thing :)
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:49 AM
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49. Did you mean to post this on craigslist?
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:50 AM
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50. If she did, I think she'd have mentioned ro$e$.
:rofl: :hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:04 AM
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68. My dear rug!
Nope.......I didn't!

Not actively looking is why.........:hi:
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:50 AM
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51. I love men too, CP!
:hi: Nice tribute.. :D
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:07 AM
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70. My dear NewWaveChick!
Thanks, sweetie!

Just something that's been rattling around inside me for lo these many years.......

Thought it was time to let it out and see the light of day!

:hug:
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:03 AM
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52. Ahhhh yes men...
Don't get me started.

Your description sounds lovely though.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:16 AM
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74. My dear BarenakedLady...........
Men......fascinating, wonderful, exasperating creatures!

Thanks for coming by today.........:hug:
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:09 AM
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53. What's wrong with short men?
Why do most (if not all) women like tall men?

Short guys need love too!

:(
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:24 AM
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55. Nothing at all, my friend.
:hi: Short men with big hearts are just fine. :pals:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:19 AM
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75. Aw, my dear Fox Mulder........
Of course short guys need love too.......and they should all have it!

Being on the tall side myself (5'7") I like to have a taller guy so I can feel protected, sheltered, and like that.......

Although back in the day, I did date guys that were shorter, or the same height that I was.....and it was fine!

Didn't mean to hurt your feelings........sorry....:hug:
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schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:19 AM
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54. Hhmmm...years ago, when visiting a museum in Denver, I saw a
man who was muscular. He also had black hair and those black superman glasses. He has been my ideal ever since. He certainly had a physic that was a turn-on. In my imagination those black glasses meant he was super intelligent! What a fantasy.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:22 AM
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77. My dear schmuls.......
Aren't fantasies fun?

You just never know when one of those dreams will come true.....

Stay open for it, and it might happen......

You never know just where the road will go, do you?

:hug:
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schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:48 PM
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92. haha! I didn't expect a reply...thanks!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:31 PM
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96. This is one of my trademarks......
I always answer at least the first response.......

And sometimes even the second or more....depending on what's being said...

I consider answering to be common courtesy!

:hug:
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:46 AM
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56. Those are few and far between, eh, Peggy?
I couldn't help but be reminded by your list of criteria of a bit of writing I did in 1994. I was "between men," which I knew never lasted long due to my weakness for them -- and particularly the "bad boys" who always just blew my idealistic illusions within months, if not sooner.

So I pulled out my legal pad and started writing.

"What I Want In A Man"

I still have those pages somewhere in my old writings box, but I can remember that several of my items were in your list too. Maybe all of them! :D

The sad part of it is, once I'd finished that bit of introspective writing, I realized I was dreaming if I thought I'd ever actually FIND a man like that. Or if I did find one, he'd be married already, which makes him absolutely OFF LIMITS to me due to my own respect for other women. (I won't even date guys who are single but still pining for an old flame or hoping to get back with an ex-wife or dating someone regularly who might turn into a more serious romance any time now.)

That alone knocks out a lot of guys from consideration, of course, but I'm okay with that. I just never wanted a guy who would seek another woman while they're still with one -- that kind will inevitably do the same thing again behind MY back eventually. Why waste my time and invest my heart?

I like men who are verbal -- but who will let me talk some too, and actually LISTEN. My second husband told me that my voice was "like a sleeping pill" to him; and I'd often pour out my heart in long rambles in bed at night, only to hear him start snoring and realize I had indeed "put him to sleep"!

I learned at age 19 then not to talk so much, or if I did, at least in equal portions solicit input from a guy and pay attention to what he said, understand how he felt. No relationship is healthy if one partner does all the "sharing" of intimate feelings and the other one stays closed up like a book, anyway.

I like men who are self-supporting and independent -- but who actually WANT a woman to complete their lives and enhance it.

I like a man who doesn't need to control me in order to have respect for himself.

I used to like tall, strong men, but that preference has shifted over the years to men who are about my own height or a little bit taller, because there's just something about being "nose to nose and toe to toe" with a guy that seems to make for a more equal partnership and great "communication" (if you get my double entendre, there ;)).

Still like 'em strong but they really MUST be able to admit to weaknesses and ask for help if they need it. Even if it's only for directions! :rofl:

I'm one of the many women who had an abusive father, but he was one who was also handsome as sin, wore a uniform (Highway Patrol) and a gun, and had a lot of great qualities about him (that were sadly subdued a lot of the time under his arrogance and hairtrigger temper fits).

So in my younger years I was always being drawn to bad-boy types who showed their true colors at some point and made my life a living hell. Learned my lesson over and over again, trying what I thought were "new" types of guys -- but every time it turned out that the same bad qualities were just dressed up differently, or came in a different form, not so easily recognizable.

Finally, in my early 50's and after my last marriage had lasted 15+ years (and we parted amicably and remained friends), I decided that I would break my pattern if I could or else simply remain aloof and alone and independent as long as I could.

No more bad boys. No more heartbreak and disillusionment and turmoil. No more trauma drama and tears on the pillow.

It's been GREAT now since 2003, and I haven't really even MISSED having a man for the most part! Amazing. Never thought I could do that, but I didn't even actually TRY real hard to get to this place ... it was just time for it to happen in my life.

I'm not closed to the possibility of a final, lasting, close relationship of the romantic type, but I'm not looking for it either. I can still appreciate the appeal of the bad boys, but from a distance. :D Good men draw me and interest me now, and after all these years of responding to the wrong types, it's the decent ones who really turn me on now.

Most of them, of course, are married or "taken" in some way, so that's fine, I just appreciate their qualities but also keep my distance. If one like that ever does cross my path and the chemistry happens, well, we shall see.

But if not, I'm okay and will be okay with my friends and family and independence -- and of course my animals!

Life can be good and fulfilling without a partner; but of course it can be even better and more satisfying with the RIGHT partner. It's hard to deny that, IMO.

Oh my, look what you did, Peggy. Even before I've read them all, I know you sparked some great replies with this OP. Now you've got me revealing way too much about myself, too!

I don't mind, though; a little honest soul-baring on occasion is good for us, I believe. :loveya: :evilgrin: :hug: :hi:


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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:26 AM
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78. My dear vickitulsa!
Well, sweetie........I sure as heck triggered you today! And I'm glad I did.......

I'm always surprised at the sorts of conversations that result when I have one of these more philosophical threads........

I appreciate your opening up........fascinating to see what goes on in other people's minds!

:loveya: :hug:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:00 AM
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59. So my being 5'8" and 140lbs isn't a deal breaker?
:D
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:28 AM
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79. My dear billy!
Of course not!

You are a doll, and if I were in the market......you'd be on my list!

:loveya: :hug:
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:24 AM
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61. Not me. Men? Pffft. Who cares?



:7



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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:01 AM
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64. Noooooooooooooooooooooo
:cry:
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:07 AM
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71. But there is ALWAYS the billyskank exception to that rule.




Everybody knows that!


:loveya:


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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:12 AM
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72. I am glad


I would hate for you to lose your taste in men only days after proposing to me. ;)

:loveya:


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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:30 AM
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81. My dear Dangerously Amused!
Yeah.......right!

:rofl:

:loveya: :hug:
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:55 AM
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85. What? You calling my bluff?




Damn.


:blush:




How ya been Peggers?


:hi:


:loveya:


:hug:


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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:00 AM
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86. Sweetie..........I'm doing well........
Just in a philosophical frame of mind, is all........

Thinking about men I've loved over my life.......

I've known some really good ones, you know?

*sigh*

Knowing incredible men makes my life worth living..........

:loveya:

:hug:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:26 AM
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62. MrG says "Hi"!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:32 AM
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82. My dear MrsGrumpy!
Now you have a lovely, sexy guy!

I adore the look on his face in that first picture.....

That's exactly what I'm talking about......yummy!

You have a keeper there........as does he.........

And good for you both!

:loveya: :hug:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:03 AM
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66. great qualites for anyone, nice to admire them
especially on men:loveya:

:hug::hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:34 AM
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83. My dear wildhorses!
Thanks, sweetie!

You know I agree........:loveya: :hug:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:21 AM
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76. When you find him, send him my way ...
thanks. :hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:35 AM
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84. My dear meegbear...........
I've seen a couple of guys like this.......

But they are both in committed relationships!

Sorry.......:hug:
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:01 AM
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87. That man doesn't exist.
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 11:03 AM by StellaBlue
Women can never be happy when they are attracted to men.

;)

Sorry, I am a cynic/realist/nonsentimentalist/radical feminist.


Edited to add: I don't like your subject line. I am not at all fascinated by men. They are mostly juvenile, misogynist, and stupidly glorify violence. Mostly. They're not complicated enough to be fascinating. They bore me. Generally.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:03 AM
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88. My dear StellaBlue!
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 11:05 AM by CaliforniaPeggy
Hey......that man does exist!

I'm married to him.........and I know some others as well!

You are in a cynical frame of mind!

Hey.......whatever makes you happy.......that's all that matters!

And I hope you are ...... :hug:


Edited to add: I'm sorry you don't like my subject line...

But it does indicate MY frame of mind, and only mine.......:shrug:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:14 PM
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98. *throws eggs*
Booooooooooooooooo!!!

Is that violent and infantile enough? I can do better. :P
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:13 PM
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89. I lurrrrve you!
:loveya:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:23 PM
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93. My dear Anarcho-Socialist!
Awwwww.....I lurrrrve you too!

Thanks.........:loveya:
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:20 PM
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90. my dear, CaliforniaPeggy
a man as you have described is attractive.

i look for the same qualities as you in a man, with the exception of height. i am okay with shorter men (5'8" or above), as i am short.

:hug:

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:26 PM
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94. My dear buddhamama...........
I'm glad you like my list!

And it is good that we don't all want tall guys.....

Fox Mulder is looking for someone who wants short ones......

See his post above!

:hug:
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:48 PM
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91. Sounds good to me, Peggy....I'm lucky MY man is like that.
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 01:48 PM by Shine
:D

and NO, you can't have him!! heheheheh. :rofl:

:hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:29 PM
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95. My dear Shine!
No worries, sweetie......

You keep your lovely husband........

He is quite safe from me!

My heart has its own place......*sigh*


:loveya:

:hug:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:23 PM
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99. We have the same tastes Peggy!
:pals:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:30 PM
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100. My dear bigwillq!
Do we? How about that?

Good thing there's lots of guys, huh?

And.......a very good thing that I'm just musing....

And not looking!

:loveya:

:pals:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:31 PM
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101. Ain't nothing wrong with looking!
:)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:32 PM
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102. True dat!
I should have said.....Good thing I'm not in the market! :blush:

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 01:27 AM
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105. I'm fascinated by men, too
My dear California Peggy, I had to smile when I saw your post. I'm married, too, but I have to say that I still enjoy talking with and admiring wonderful members of the opposite sex.

Julie
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:39 AM
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108. My dear JulieRB.........
Hey baby......we're not dead yet!

And as long as I live, I will enjoy the company of men........:hi:
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 01:51 AM
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106. Your in love with Atticus Finch.
Haha. No really....not many men like that left in the world. Except me. I'm exactly what you described. Don't listen to those people who say I'm arrogant, and full of myself. They are liars. I am perfect.

*grin*

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:16 AM
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107. Atticus Finch, George Bailey and Patrick Fitzgerald
>not many men like that left in the world<

No, there's not, but we enjoy them nevertheless ;-).

>Don't listen to those people who say I'm arrogant, and full of myself. They are liars. I am perfect.<

You sound intriguing. Tell us about yourself!
Julie


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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 12:01 PM
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110. Alright..here goes
*spotlight shines on Evoman, giving him a translucent look. Evoman then look directly at Julie, while boy band music plays in the background"

Hi I'm Evoman. I like fine Chilean wines, French cuisine, and long moonlight walks on the beach. I also like all of the Earth's children, world peace, and I like selflessly giving women back massages, and getting absolutely nothing in return.

Haha...that shit gets them all the tim...oh man, am I still typing. Crap. Stop typing. Damn it, I always ruin all my prospects like this.

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:09 PM
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111. Evoman, where have you been all my life?
>*spotlight shines on Evoman, giving him a translucent look. Evoman then look directly at Julie, while boy band music plays in the background"<

Okay, lose the boy band, and we can talk. I prefer R&B ;-). By those old enough to vote. :evilgrin:

>Hi I'm Evoman. I like fine Chilean wines, French cuisine, and long moonlight walks on the beach. I also like all of the Earth's children, world peace, and I like selflessly giving women back massages, and getting absolutely nothing in return.<

You are a truly giving man.
I'm the only woman in the world that doesn't give a crap about French cuisine. I'm a pizza or cheeseburgers kind of a chick. (I laugh in the face of hardening arteries.) The back massage thing? I'd prefer a pedicure. The last time I had one, the guy (!) giving me a hand massage -- I finally made him stop. It was just a little too good for me.

I'm looking for a guy (yeah, right, don't tell my husband,) that thinks my obsession with most sports is great, who thinks I look really cute with that roostertail of hair that inevitably happens when I fall asleep on the couch during the Sunday morning gasbag shows, that isn't completely appalled that I'm happiest in jeans.

>Haha...that shit gets them all the tim...oh man, am I still typing. Crap. Stop typing. Damn it, I always ruin all my prospects like this.<

You are the man, Evoman. Just the sense of humor alone should ensure lots of stunning female companionship!

Julie


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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:41 AM
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109. My dear Evoman!
Oh, I see.......you're perfect?

Stick around.....talk to me!

I don't often see perfect men!

*grin back atcha!*

:hi:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:41 PM
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112. .
i'm none of those things...
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:06 PM
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113. My dear mdmc.........
Somehow I doubt that.......:hug:
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